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Actually I did, earlier in this thread...

You having the memory of a goldfish doesn't change that fact.
So, I did you the favor of searching the entirety of your posts on this thread to see what you were referring to. You presented this:

Fair, you did present something.

But,

Doctor Bridle presents sourced responses to the counter-arguments that you presented, including linking to the correction that the study was used against him was forced to make when he pointed out their error. ( https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMx210016 )

But you read that, right?

He also explains the problem with people's arguments about spike proteins, so I assume you have a response to his response?

Also, I'd like an apology for the goldfish comment, given that you posted the link about this guy two months ago.
 

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Potentially Hot Take: politicizing masks into a left pro / right against schema during a year of extreme social unrest (and going into a time of increasing social unrest) was unfortunate (although potentially unavoidable), right pro / left anti would have been more desirable.
 

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You forgot to account for the "ignore the votes from anti-science troll russian fake news bots" on the equation.
I mean, hypothetically an entirely apolitical IMDB would still go "this is clearly being review-bombed, shouldn't we do something?" I have no idea how the IMDB is run as far as that goes.
 

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And Granada is the only place I can afford to study for a Master's Degree in English...fuck me...
 

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If they were entirely apolitical, that question wouldn't even occur to them to ask.
Why not? I presume they care about the accuracy of the review aggregates so it follows that they'd care about targeted review-bombing.
 

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Why not? I presume they care about the accuracy of the review aggregates so it follows that they'd care about targeted review-bombing.
Why should they care the accuracy? It's not like they make money off of it; they make money off of the ad revenue. If anything, review-bombing should be a good thing from their perspective, because it means more traffic to their website.
 

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Why should they care the accuracy? It's not like they make money off of it; they make money off of the ad revenue. If anything, review-bombing should be a good thing from their perspective, because it means more traffic to their website.
If that was the case they should have no reason to want reviews at all, traffic to their site is going to consist primarily of people coming to see information on movies and if they get a reputation for that being unreliable, they will lose traffic.

Note also that not all review bombing needs to be political in nature. Suppose one movie company got the bright idea to pay socks to downvote all their competitors movies and boost their own, this is something an honest review company would need to take note of and correct for, because, again, if you're providing review aggregates as a service your user base is going to want to know they're being fed real numbers and not gibberish.

That's not to say the current situation isn't all kinds of suspicious of course, just that in principle, anybody providing a review service will, in fact, have a valid interest in protecting their reviews from bombing attempts.
 

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If that was the case they should have no reason to want reviews at all, traffic to their site is going to consist primarily of people coming to see information on movies and if they get a reputation for that being unreliable, they will lose traffic.

Note also that not all review bombing needs to be political in nature. Suppose one movie company got the bright idea to pay socks to downvote all their competitors movies and boost their own, this is something an honest review company would need to take note of and correct for, because, again, if you're providing review aggregates as a service your user base is going to want to know they're being fed real numbers and not gibberish.

That's not to say the current situation isn't all kinds of suspicious of course, just that in principle, anybody providing a review service will, in fact, have a valid interest in protecting their reviews from bombing attempts.
These are good points, except I feel that self initiated bombing events are legit.

If you hate Cuties or the Fauci propaganda for existing, going and rating it low is totally legit.

Now when you get into review farms and shit, you have a damn good point.
 

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These are good points, except I feel that self initiated bombing events are legit.

If you hate Cuties or the Fauci propaganda for existing, going and rating it low is totally legit.

Now when you get into review farms and shit, you have a damn good point.
I don't disagree in principle, but I'm not sure how one could go about designing a system that can counter review farms but not get false positives off many random people genuinely hating the concept of Cuties.
 

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I don't disagree in principle, but I'm not sure how one could go about designing a system that can counter review farms but not get false positives off many random people genuinely hating the concept of Cuties.
Yeah I don't have a solution to this either. Just pointing out that I don't think all review bombing is necessarily illegitimate.
 
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