"Woke" Franchises

Skitzyfrenic

Well-known member
The reviews coming out for Candela Obscura are great.

The game is so rules light it's literally missing rules like combat or dying, it preachy, goes on to say things like emulating insanity is problematic and immediately gives 'rules' for physical disabilities, etc.

Right? Everyone here probably expected shit like this.

There are so many reviews blasting it for being preachy and incomplete, and one lefty reviewer even had to give a rambling disclaimer about how he's expecting death threats from the uber tolerant lefty critters.

I really think it's a perfect example of going so incredibly woke you can't even criticize objective faults.

In the hobby, I think it's going to be the first major crack in showing people new to it why 'roleplaying' was initially developed and not 'storygaming,' and why so many people hate railroading. The 'rules' of Candela Obscura are 'meant' for a shorter campaign that's completely on the rails the entire time.

If you want to play an investigative, secret society, creeping horror game Vaessen and CoC are much better. Old Gods of Appalachia is another rules light, narrative heavy game much in the same vein as Candela Obscura but it at least has complete rules, and doesn't shy away from the dogshit that used to exist in ~1900s Appalachia.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
So, Gatwa, the living stereotype of mincing gay people out there, has openly said that the Doctor is going to be gay.

Basically, he's not playing the Doctor; he's playing himself as the Doctor.

So, yeah. We're gonna have a mincing gay Doctor. facepalm I'd say this isn't going to go as well as they're expecting, but they honestly don't care if they make themselves into a clown show for the world to see.
 

ThatZenoGuy

Zealous Evolutionary Nano Organism
Comrade
So, Gatwa, the living stereotype of mincing gay people out there, has openly said that the Doctor is going to be gay.

Basically, he's not playing the Doctor; he's playing himself as the Doctor.

So, yeah. We're gonna have a mincing gay Doctor. facepalm I'd say this isn't going to go as well as they're expecting, but they honestly don't care if they make themselves into a clown show for the world to see.
Excuse my lack of Dr Who lore knowledge, can Timelords actually even be gay? They aren't human after all.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
Excuse my lack of Dr Who lore knowledge, can Timelords actually even be gay? They aren't human after all.
I daresay there are gay Timelords/ladies out there; point is, the Doctor has always been either attracted to women (he's a grandfather, and has been married to River Song, had a thing for Rose Tyler which was spun off with the Metacrisis Tenth Doctor) or uninterested.

Basically, it's agenda-pushing at its finest; same deal with making him a woman with Whitaker. sigh
 

Bassoe

Well-known member
I swear to god, if something like the Cybermen existed in real life, all they’d have to do is throw up a thin facade about them being ‘non-gendered and ecologically friendly’ or some other BS and you’d get idiots praising them to the heavens and lining up to be converted.
Been done.
 

Culsu

Agent of the Central Plasma
Founder
The reviews coming out for Candela Obscura are great.

The game is so rules light it's literally missing rules like combat or dying, it preachy, goes on to say things like emulating insanity is problematic and immediately gives 'rules' for physical disabilities, etc.

Right? Everyone here probably expected shit like this.

There are so many reviews blasting it for being preachy and incomplete, and one lefty reviewer even had to give a rambling disclaimer about how he's expecting death threats from the uber tolerant lefty critters.

I really think it's a perfect example of going so incredibly woke you can't even criticize objective faults.

In the hobby, I think it's going to be the first major crack in showing people new to it why 'roleplaying' was initially developed and not 'storygaming,' and why so many people hate railroading. The 'rules' of Candela Obscura are 'meant' for a shorter campaign that's completely on the rails the entire time.

If you want to play an investigative, secret society, creeping horror game Vaessen and CoC are much better. Old Gods of Appalachia is another rules light, narrative heavy game much in the same vein as Candela Obscura but it at least has complete rules, and doesn't shy away from the dogshit that used to exist in ~1900s Appalachia.
That's the one by the Critical Role guys? If so, I mean they've gone full blown woke since at least campaign 2, so I'm really not surprised.
 

Skitzyfrenic

Well-known member
That's the one by the Critical Role guys? If so, I mean they've gone full blown woke since at least campaign 2, so I'm really not surprised.

Yeah, it is. Their 'we ripped off 'blades in the dark' occult horror game that also does things like says 'art deco and art nuveau for the aesthetic' and then proceed to not have a single piece of art in either style, in between lecturing you and missing entire rules.

They've got a ... 2d12? I think system called Daggerheart coming out and every one of their fans is hyping it up as the D&D killer.

Given Candela Obscura, probably won't.

It'll probably be another 'streamlined,' 'rules light' story game that works really well on the rails but falls to pieces the instant any pressure is actually applied.
 

Skitzyfrenic

Well-known member
I'm only addressing that every session is going to have 'that guy' that builds his character to break the system and be the "MOST POWERFUL WHAT'SITS EVAH!!! MUWHAAHHAHAHHAHAHH!!!" I usually get 3 of those when I run games. I like making them cry.

Yeah, but that's not what I was getting at in the first place.

There are games where it's functionally childish 'play pretend' because there are so few rules.

Like Mist-Robed Gate, a Wuxia 'ttrpg,' where you pass a knife prop around and basically go 'I do kung fu slightly better than you!'

There is no build that breaks the system. Most of the times the builds are fine with what system is there. And they're heavily ossified so you can't actually make a game breaking build. It's when you start doing things in game that are even slightly creative to problem solve.

Like Candela Obscura, if you don't want the horror to eat you? Don't attack it. The rules are such that if you don't engage in combat or risky physical behavior you cannot be hurt physically because the GM rolls explicitly nothing and thus cannot act against you. And since they don't have rules for growing insane, because those are problematic, you cannot be hurt mentally.

That's not a build issue, but a system issue.

It's a completely different, if similar sounding, issue.
 

Vyor

My influence grows!
I'm only addressing that every session is going to have 'that guy' that builds his character to break the system and be the "MOST POWERFUL WHAT'SITS EVAH!!! MUWHAAHHAHAHHAHAHH!!!" I usually get 3 of those when I run games. I like making them cry.

I never get any, because I handpick my players carefully :V
 

The Whispering Monk

Well-known member
Osaul
Like Candela Obscura, if you don't want the horror to eat you? Don't attack it. The rules are such that if you don't engage in combat or risky physical behavior you cannot be hurt physically because the GM rolls explicitly nothing and thus cannot act against you. And since they don't have rules for growing insane, because those are problematic, you cannot be hurt mentally.
That's...ok, not a game I'm gonna play. If there's no risk, what's the point of playing?

I never get any, because I handpick my players carefully :V
Wish I had that luxury. I don't live in an area with an active enough community to have that option.
 

Him

Man-Beast.
Who was the 40K writer who had a normal woman don Terminator armor and power weapons again?

Yeah fuck that guy.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top