Scooby Doo
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Is he bad as they say he is?
Or is this another case of biased smear campaign?
Or is this another case of biased smear campaign?
Middle East What do you think of Andrew Tate?
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PsihoKekec
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He is to men what feminists are to women, grifter who preaches life with no responsibilities.
No, he really is as bad as they say he is.
KilroywasNOTHere
"BEEP!"
let me put it this way, seeing how many on the right follow him like he's prominent was what caused my latest blackpill nosedive. At best this guy is a hustller and a con artist that offers overpriced placebos (Every good piece of advice he has you can find on the web for free) at worst, the guy is a pimp and a rapist.
if this is the kind of person us non-leftist look to we are doomed.
if this is the kind of person us non-leftist look to we are doomed.
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MGTOW here, and... well, although the reasons why he was arrested are suspicious, the guy himself is a complete grifter: most of what he regurgitates are everyday facts which can be found online, and the rest/his presentation? He appeals to the guys out there who think that just because a woman isn't a submissive virgin in their twenties, they're pretty much worthless and should be essentially "written off".
He's an arse.
He's an arse.
Wargamer08
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The dude's someone who's monetized giving basic counterculture advice in the face of the current western feminist hookup culture. He's the internet equivalent of a shock jock. Though because he got big enough and began to upset people he's been targeted and destroyed.
Note, I'm not a particularly big fan of the guy. I don't really care about the cashing in, mainstream people like Jordan Peterson have certainly cashed in harder, I just don't find his crudeness and counter game mentality engaging. All the same, he upset the apple carts of the usual suspects and was subjected to a mass coordinated attack by multiple MSM organizations.
While the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, you can tell a lot about a man by the enemies he makes and Andrew Tate has all the right enemies.
Note, I'm not a particularly big fan of the guy. I don't really care about the cashing in, mainstream people like Jordan Peterson have certainly cashed in harder, I just don't find his crudeness and counter game mentality engaging. All the same, he upset the apple carts of the usual suspects and was subjected to a mass coordinated attack by multiple MSM organizations.
While the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, you can tell a lot about a man by the enemies he makes and Andrew Tate has all the right enemies.
I don't really like anyone who's personality revolves around how much cash and hoes they have.
Wargamer08
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It's a rather crass response to the whole you will own nothing and live in pods creed being pushed. Just as the over exaggerated toxic male swagger is a response to the over the top feminism.
It lacks any depth, spirituality or nuance.
It still got him subjected to a coordinated MSM takedown; complete with hit pieces, a designated rival and pressuring a minor government to arrest him.
Now maybe he is guilty of those crimes. I've got no real idea of the legal details. Time will tell on that.
Honestly considering how nobody even heard of the dude before this nonsense started showing up on the MSM, it comes across as fake and gay to me.
These people must have a giant pair of dice they roll to make the current hit pieces or something.
posh-goofiness
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@Captain X your video is age restricted and can only be viewed on YouTube.
Didn't know much about him admittedly but a quick glance at multiple sources reveals him to be a grifter who flips as much as an opportunist does in politics with a track record delving into human trafficking all the while providing nothing of sustenance to any of the causes that are his flavor of the week.
What is there to love?
What is there to love?
ShieldWife
Marchioness
He seems like a scumbag to me. He has admitted on camera to committing fraud against his porn girls, committing tax fraud with his business, to essentially pimping and sex trafficking. There are some more extreme accusations against him as well, like rape and kidnapping, though even if he’s innocent of that, the things he has admitted to are bad enough.
He takes money from men to supposedly teach them to be chads or whatever. He calls men, often his own fans, losers for not being as rich, fit, or promiscuous as him. He’s a grifter using the manosphere.
Maybe the worse thing he is doing is poisoning the anti-feminist and men rights movements by associating them with the kind of sleazy behavior that he advocates. This stuff is the opposite of what MRA should be. The point should not be to climb to the top of the trash heap, to be the most successful trash, but to establish good and healthy relationships between men and women - which have been terribly damaged by feminism and aren’t helped at all by his particular brand of red pilled ideology - which isn’t conservative at all.
So he’s a bad guy who hurts society and should probably be in jail.
He takes money from men to supposedly teach them to be chads or whatever. He calls men, often his own fans, losers for not being as rich, fit, or promiscuous as him. He’s a grifter using the manosphere.
Maybe the worse thing he is doing is poisoning the anti-feminist and men rights movements by associating them with the kind of sleazy behavior that he advocates. This stuff is the opposite of what MRA should be. The point should not be to climb to the top of the trash heap, to be the most successful trash, but to establish good and healthy relationships between men and women - which have been terribly damaged by feminism and aren’t helped at all by his particular brand of red pilled ideology - which isn’t conservative at all.
So he’s a bad guy who hurts society and should probably be in jail.
DarthOne
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Not at all a fan.
That said however, Tate's messaging is, in my opinion, something that attracts a lot of men not because they necessarily want to start doing the Pick Up Artist thing or pay for his courses, but because it resonates with our current reality.
The fact of the matter is, men are being chastised and marginalized by their own governments the world over, and as more and more boys grow up with broken homes in single-mother households, seeing their fathers, uncles or brothers getting raked through poisonous Family and Divorce Courts, seeing them having to fork over thousand of dollars in monthly stipends to their ungrateful mothers etc, it's no wonder more and more men are moving away from their traditional roles and values.
Adapting to threats and danger is something men have a knack for, afterall, why do we have to uphold our end of the bargain when women are encourage not to?
That said however, Tate's messaging is, in my opinion, something that attracts a lot of men not because they necessarily want to start doing the Pick Up Artist thing or pay for his courses, but because it resonates with our current reality.
The fact of the matter is, men are being chastised and marginalized by their own governments the world over, and as more and more boys grow up with broken homes in single-mother households, seeing their fathers, uncles or brothers getting raked through poisonous Family and Divorce Courts, seeing them having to fork over thousand of dollars in monthly stipends to their ungrateful mothers etc, it's no wonder more and more men are moving away from their traditional roles and values.
Adapting to threats and danger is something men have a knack for, afterall, why do we have to uphold our end of the bargain when women are encourage not to?
Yep.
99% of Western women are, to be honest, dumpster fires.
To quote one female YouTuber, which I found hilariou: "Men don't want to date other dudes [masculinized Western women]".
Outside of simps and people with zero self-respect, why the fuck would you want to stick your dick in that poisonous hole?
99% of Western women are, to be honest, dumpster fires.
To quote one female YouTuber, which I found hilariou: "Men don't want to date other dudes [masculinized Western women]".
Outside of simps and people with zero self-respect, why the fuck would you want to stick your dick in that poisonous hole?
KilroywasNOTHere
"BEEP!"
I'd say less musicalized and more just strait up dirtbags. contrary to what feminism likes to say. Most men with any kind of self respect don't like men like Andrew Tate why would we like a woman like him? take what Tate says and reverse the genders and suddenly Tate sounds like a gold-digging Kardashian-level tramp.
Tomboys on the other hand are very much a thing and they are very much valued by conservative men as they tend to make the best wives and mothers. the problem is that Western culture does not provide an environment for that sort of person to thrive. I hear all the talk about toxic masculinity and how it's bad for men long term. (To be fair, I'd argue Tate could very well be an example of that) yet not once have I heard about how harmful toxic femininity is to girls and young women despite the fact that it is very much the case.
Heck I mean, the west's whole concept of gender (and gender roles) comes from THIS pervert of all people.
There is a massive difference between TomBoys and how masculinized women have become in the West, yeah.
I knew a load of girls that were stereotypical TomBoys growing up (90's and 00's), and they were still girls despite having a lot of likes and interests that were stereotypically male. The same enviroment that allowed them to live and thrive, to allow them to be who they were, is long gone -- these days they'd be, ironically, forced into boxes, especially regarding the Alphabet Soup shit trending.
