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[King Arts]

The Red Terror was, yes, evil.

Stalin did worse.

Great Purge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

700,000 people
In a single year.

Even assuming worst case numbers for the red terror, at 2 million total deaths(which is laughable), you're only at 500,000 a year.

And the Red Terror is the entirety of Lenin's leadership, the Great Purge(Or Great Terror) was a single year under Stalin.

And keep in mind that the White Terror was going on at the same time as the Red Terror:

White Terror (Russia) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Both sides were fundamentally evil.



I have quite literally never said Lenin was a good person, merely better than the Tsars and Stalin and, above that, Competent.

Competence doesn't equal being a good person, it equals being effective. And he was most certainly that.

You stupid subhuman retard. Muh white terror? They are completely different, killing a murder is not the same as killing an innocent person. When Franco or anyone else kills or tortures or violates a communist or their rights, it is not an evil act. Communists are evil scum who deserve all that suffering. Also the only reason Lenin did not get as many deaths as Stalin is because Lenin did not last as long.

 

[Marduk]

Whoa, I didn't say a word about the progs' self-confidence & self-image. You really think they can survive the next election (assuming it hasn't been rigged to North Korean proportions) after having to clearly, unambiguously own a massive L abroad that's obviously been caused by their own idiocy? Even normies can only be told 'yeah, we ate shit hard even though we're supposed to be a nation of winners, oh well, just keep on voting for the guys in power when we got our asses beat' so many times. The Dems throwing Vietnam under several buses and tanks after Nixon had done a lot to salvage the situation (regardless of that war's popularity or lack thereof and the wisdom of fighting in the first place) and then blundering into even more humiliating defeats overseas helped usher in 12 years of Republican governance on the federal level.

Well, I guess they could also try to 'fortify' the next elections harder than the walls of Constantinople. But again, you can only do that so many times before you dispel the illusion of there being a liberal democracy at all entirely - and then all bets are off. Americans' faith in their own election integrity's been cratering for years, y'know? It was at something like 20% overall last year, and that was before the midterms with shit like the current Governor of Arizona running her own election. They can only cheat at the poker table so many times before even a literal kangaroo figures out something's funny about their winning streak and decides it's time to flip said table & break out a shotgun.

So you see, the dems already did that maneuver before. Of course it works only with the believers... but there are far more of them now than then, and they are more irrationally zealous now than then. The moderates may care about military failures, but don't think for a moment the rainbow flag wavers will throw these flags into the trash if you convince them that the rainbow mafia and affirmative action made the military ineffective.

 

[Bacle]

And then we basically become the birch if China.
Well done.
You did what they wanted.

He'll, this attitude is how they git in the places they did "don't do this because the left are in it!"
That is how they win
Because yall give up

Have you forgotten about Adam Schiff and Fang-Fang, Pelosi saying that calling the Wu Flu by it's name was racist against the Chinese, the numerous connections between other Dem and GOP establishment and the CCP, the fact that NIH was doing the virus work in Wuhan to avoid US laws against gain-of-function, or that the CCP is buying up almost as much US farmland as Bill Gates?

We are already the CCP's bitch in most ways that matter, and the CCP doesn't need to invade Taiwan to screw the US when they already have their strings on the establishment of both major parties.

Alright.
Let the military and every aspect you complain about become worse because you have a stick so far up your ass you don't know which way it is pointing.
The whole aspect of "Let the left have it" is such a counter thesis to the whole idea of what the right fights for.
Why do you think academia is so bad? Because the right said "fuck it" and most don't go into those fields.
Why do you think Hollywood os so bad?

If more people on the right was willing to pull up thier fuxking britches and actually decide to do the hard work instead of complain and wonder why all these institutions are failing, they wouldn't be having these issues.

Because guess what, in the end Blue Collar does a lot for the country, yes.
But the left will eventually attempt to infiltrate and destroy our hold on those.
Because we seem to just let them with everything.

Zach, how can people on the Right attempt to retake the institutions, when the laws that govern this nation are not equally applied to both sides of the political spectrum?

If laws were applied equally in the US, the Left would never have gotten the institutional advantage they have now.

So what good is there in attempting to preserve a rotten institution, when the laws that are needed to be applied to clean it up are not being enforced by Soros-funded DA's who have political agendas against conservatives, or by political appointees in DC who can and will ignore the Constitution in pursuit up woke/progressive ideological goals, if they feel they can get away with it.

This is why many on the Right are more willing to just whole-sale abandon an institution, instead of put in the 'hard work' to fix it; they know the laws need to do said clean up will not be enforced equally or Constitutionally. Thus, it makes more sense to many conservatives to instead want to tear said institution down and rebuilt it once the rot is purged.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

The Long March to the Institutions is alive and well, or so it seems.

Other NATO nations may have their own set of problems too regarding recruitment. I know a bit about how Canada is struggling to boost their own numbers, and given the crappy equipment that we're still using, it is really a surprise that we've managed to keep ourselves intact. Heck, I'm not sure how the Canadian military would be able to handle an insurgency within its own territory.

 

[Circle of Willis]

So you see, the dems already did that maneuver before. Of course it works only with the believers... but there are far more of them now than then, and they are more irrationally zealous now than then. The moderates may care about military failures, but don't think for a moment the rainbow flag wavers will throw these flags into the trash if you convince them that the rainbow mafia and affirmative action made the military ineffective.

Certainly, I wasn't blind during 2020's summer of love and I've been in enough HOI4 Discord servers to know people my age who have been brainwashed by academia in greater numbers than before, and that they're crazier than shithouse rats to the point of worshiping the Weather Underground & regularly banning their own kind for not being genocidal enough. There's no reaching these psychopaths and I would never suggest even trying, they're lost causes used to shouting down or banning even the kindest criticism of their views, views which are utterly incompatible with anything resembling a constitutional republic: if you ask me, the only true long-term solutions to the threat they pose are either their utter marginalization or the Suharto treatment.

But in the meantime, I don't believe these people are still so numerous as to be capable of winning elections on their own (which is a big reason, other than having literally castrated themselves, why they're seething so much and constantly crying about the need for a revolution - fortunately their malice is also rivaled by their incompetence and, more often than not, self-inflicted impotence, something which I wish were entirely true of the similarly-minded scum running the show right now). They still need normies for that, and the 'rainbow flag wavers' know both the truth of that (as badly as it burns their ass to admit it) and how a sufficiently big disaster (or string of disasters) can still cost them support which represents the difference between their winning or losing even remotely convincingly free & fair elections.

Again, of course, unless the clowns in charge decide that they'd rather snap the last threads of electoral democracy and make a grab for absolute power before they have to cede even an inch to the dreaded right-wing boogeymen. But if they choose that path, all bets are off and America will certainly have a lot more to worry about than continued conflict with China. Though that's a topic that is neither suitable for this thread nor one that I enjoy talking about overmuch, beyond the occasional contribution I've made to the 2ACW theorycrafting thread: to paraphrase Chiang Kai-shek, let's not lightly talk about civil conflict until we've been driven to the last extreme which makes civil conflict inevitable.

 

[Zachowon]

Have you forgotten about Adam Schiff and Fang-Fang, Pelosi saying that calling the Wu Flu by it's name was racist against the Chinese, the numerous connections between other Dem and GOP establishment and the CCP, the fact that NIH was doing the virus work in Wuhan to avoid US laws against gain-of-function, or that the CCP is buying up almost as much US farmland as Bill Gates?

We are already the CCP's bitch in most ways that matter, and the CCP doesn't need to invade Taiwan to screw the US when they already have their strings on the establishment of both major parties.

Zach, how can people on the Right attempt to retake the institutions, when the laws that govern this nation are not equally applied to both sides of the political spectrum?

If laws were applied equally in the US, the Left would never have gotten the institutional advantage they have now.

So what good is there in attempting to preserve a rotten institution, when the laws that are needed to be applied to clean it up are not being enforced by Soros-funded DA's who have political agendas against conservatives, or by political appointees in DC who can and will ignore the Constitution in pursuit up woke/progressive ideological goals, if they feel they can get away with it.

This is why many on the Right are more willing to just whole-sale abandon an institution, instead of put in the 'hard work' to fix it; they know the laws need to do said clean up will not be enforced equally or Constitutionally. Thus, it makes more sense to many conservatives to instead want to tear said institution down and rebuilt it once the rot is purged.

Hey Bacle.
Have you ever tried doing something called laying low to eventually get up the where you have the ability to effectively change things?
Because that is what we have to do.
We only get prosecuted if we are vocal about things.

Also, I can tell you from personal experience how effective it is when officers can play the game but are the opposite behind doors.

Also, why the hell would Pelosi fly to fuxking Taiwan ?
And the whole Wuhan flu was because of the Chinese and Asian American population in major cities.
Where the crime rate skyrocketed on said individuals because of thier race.

 

[Bacle]

Hey Bacle.
Have you ever tried doing something called laying low to eventually get up the where you have the ability to effectively change things?
Because that is what we have to do.
We only get prosecuted if we are vocal about things.

Ah yes, as if that's effective in the digital age.

It also shows why the Left continue to have power in the media, where it matters most; conservative's think themselves more clever by half most of the time, and keep trying to use ineffective and moot strategies that their opponent countered long ago.

People like Clarence Thomas and Joe Rogan are doing more for the future of the Right, if there is one, than people 'laying low' and trying to play the old game.

This isn't a fight where trying to use battlefield deception strategies is going to work in the long term, because the Left already control pretty much all the levers. Just look at the Durham Report and how nothing will come of it.

Also, I can tell you from personal experience how effective it is when officers can play the game but are the opposite behind doors.

That doesn't help the Culture War at all, and only shows that the military is trying to play the domestic scene behind closed doors, and letting the civies on the Right take the heat for them, instead of standing openly with us.

Also, why the hell would Pelosi fly to fuxking Taiwan ?

Because selling shit to Taiwan helps her stock portfolio.

She may also expect that the fight over Taiwan won't happen til after she's dead, so she may not care.

Double dipping on CCP and Taiwan to help her stocks is more believable than having a patriotic/non-woke bone in her body.

And the whole Wuhan flu was because of the Chinese and Asian American population in major cities.
Where the crime rate skyrocketed on said individuals because of thier race.

They sky rocketed because governors/DA emptied some prisons in places like Cali using the Wu Flu as the excuse, and then kept letting violent assholes roam around and riot/loot after George Floyd was killed.

And Asian stores were targeted in the Rodney King riots as well, let's not forget.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

The crime rate skyrocketing happened due to the Summer of Love, because Black Americans have historically really, really. Really loved murdering Asians in klan style raids.

 

[Zachowon]

Ah yes, as if that's effective in the digital age.

It also shows why the Left continue to have power in the media, where it matters most; conservative's think themselves more clever by half most of the time, and keep trying to use ineffective and moot strategies that their opponent countered long ago.

People like Clarence Thomas and Joe Rogan are doing more for the future of the Right, if there is one, than people 'laying low' and trying to play the old game.

This isn't a fight where trying to use battlefield deception strategies is going to work in the long term, because the Left already control pretty much all the levers. Just look at the Durham Report and how nothing will come of it.

That doesn't help the Culture War at all, and only shows that the military is trying to play the domestic scene behind closed doors, and letting the civies on the Right take the heat for them, instead of standing openly with us.

Because selling shit to Taiwan helps her stock portfolio.

She may also expect that the fight over Taiwan won't happen til after she's dead, so she may not care.

Double dipping on CCP and Taiwan to help her stocks is more believable than having a patriotic/non-woke bone in her body.

They sky rocketed because governors/DA emptied some prisons in places like Cali using the Wu Flu as the excuse, and then kept letting violent assholes roam around and riot/loot after George Floyd was killed.

And Asian stores were targeted in the Rodney King riots as well, let's not forget.

So as I had been saying.
You are willing to give up something because the left has some control over it.
Joe Rogan and Thomas are famous so of course they can.
But even in a digital age, one cam be right wing and stay low.
Look at me for instance and many I work with that share the same political views.
Because we arnt screaming it to the clouds and can have civil discussions with those who armt on the same.
The politics that have gotten in the military is huge, yes but the easiest solution is to rise up the ranks and change it.
Because it takes slow to change the military and that is why it takes time.

Ruining any chance to fully get into any group because yall just give up is the exact reason the left have strangle holds on media, on Acadamia, on federal institutions.
Because yall just give up.
And when the right complains because all these things hate us, everyone blames everything but themselves because we don't try.

If we want to lose the culture war this badly why do we try to fight in the hardest and literally self inflicting way?

Do you think the left stopped trying when the right had strangle holds on all these positions they now own?
No.
We do.

 

[S'task]

The world surpassed them long ago, and the Qing Dynasty's fall should've been the wakeup call they needed.

Why should it have been? The Qing Dynasty, for all the Chinese like to claim their territory as theirs, wasn't a Chinese dynasty. The rulers of the Qing were a semi-nomadic steppe people from Manchuria, the Manchu, and were an ethnic minority ruling over a Han Chinese majority and did many things to emphasize that. The cliched "Chinese" hairstyle known as the queue? That wasn't a traditional Chinese hairstyle, it was a traditional MANCHU hairstyle that the government FORCED men to wear to show their subjugation to the Manchu. Likewise there were many policies taken by the Manchu meant to preserve their personal culture and prevent Sinofication like prior outside ruling dynasties had succumbed to.

So why should the Chinese (Han) take any wakeup from the fall of the Qing (Manchu)? It wasn't THEIR government... it wasn't THEIR rule. In fact while the fall of the Qing saw the century of humiliation, one could make a case that the Chinese were overthrowing a foreign ruler who had grown corrupt and incompetent. The Qing's failure is not a reflection on the failure of the Chinese in their mind, but rather, the failure of another barbarian foreign rulers.

 

[Bacle]

So as I had been saying.
You are willing to give up something because the left has some control over it.
Joe Rogan and Thomas are famous so of course they can.
But even in a digital age, one cam be right wing and stay low.
Look at me for instance and many I work with that share the same political views.
Because we arnt screaming it to the clouds and can have civil discussions with those who armt on the same.
The politics that have gotten in the military is huge, yes but the easiest solution is to rise up the ranks and change it.
Because it takes slow to change the military and that is why it takes time.

Ruining any chance to fully get into any group because yall just give up is the exact reason the left have strangle holds on media, on Acadamia, on federal institutions.
Because yall just give up.
And when the right complains because all these things hate us, everyone blames everything but themselves because we don't try.

If we want to lose the culture war this badly why do we try to fight in the hardest and literally self inflicting way?

Do you think the left stopped trying when the right had strangle holds on all these positions they now own?
No.
We do.

There is a reason the 'I just want to grill' meme is a thing, and you forget we have tried, many times, and we saw what happened when the GOP had all 3 branches under Trump's first 2 years; nothing.

You keep acting like changing the military culture inside it will fix the shit in the media, in the universities, in the Soros-funded DA's offices, and keep ignoring what has happened to those who have already tried that.

No amount of climbing the ranks playing the DoD's game will fix the issues on the civie side, and just look at what happened to Gina Cirano when she simply showed what happened during the Holocaust and the Left twisted it to make her the bad guy.

The methodologies that may help to climb the ranks in the modern DoD while being conservative do not translate over to the civie side of the culture war, and I do not know how to make you see that.

 

[Zachowon]

There is a reason the 'I just want to grill' meme is a thing, and you forget we have tried, many times, and we saw what happened when the GOP had all 3 branches under Trump's first 2 years; nothing.

You keep acting like changing the military culture inside it will fix the shit in the media, in the universities, in the Soros-funded DA's offices, and keep ignoring what has happened to those who have already tried that.

No amount of climbing the ranks playing the DoD's game will fix the issues on the civie side, and just look at what happened to Gina Cirano when she simply showed what happened during the Holocaust and the Left twisted it to make her the bad guy.

The methodologies that may help to climb the ranks in the modern DoD while being conservative do not translate over to the civie side of the culture war, and I do not know how to make you see that.

I am trying to explain something to you.
If you keep yourself clean and off social media, as it is easier then you seem to make it out to be, you can easily rise up and basically become unstoppable. Like what Joe Rogan, Chris Pratt, and all these people who are in positions where they can't really be canceled.

I am focusing on the MILITARY.
As I have been this whole fucking time.

But also, you can make gains by working from the bottom up.
If it means you have to work strategically in order make sure you have friends and higher ups who like you, you are good to go.

Giving up amd letting these areas you point out IS WHY THEY GOT THERE.

How many times have you seen conservatives tell thier children to be professors, teachers, journalists?
Because that is the thing.
We let the left take these over because of how we as a cukture are focused.

You are a fucking former leftist and now you are eating up the exact shit they feed to the right.

"You can't do anything, Giv up!"

 

[Bacle]

I am trying to explain something to you.
If you keep yourself clean and off social media, as it is easier then you seem to make it out to be, you can easily rise up and basically become unstoppable. Like what Joe Rogan, Chris Pratt, and all these people who are in positions where they can't really be canceled.

I am focusing on the MILITARY.
As I have been this whole fucking time.

But also, you can make gains by working from the bottom up.
If it means you have to work strategically in order make sure you have friends and higher ups who like you, you are good to go.

Giving up amd letting these areas you point out IS WHY THEY GOT THERE.

How many times have you seen conservatives tell thier children to be professors, teachers, journalists?
Because that is the thing.
We let the left take these over because of how we as a cukture are focused.

You are a fucking former leftist and now you are eating up the exact shit they feed to the right.

"You can't do anything, Giv up!"

Have you considered that I'm not a 'leftist', just a classical liberal/libertarian type who the Far-Left dragged the party way from.

Do I need to get Musk's meme about how 'I never moved, the Left just moved away from me' for you?

Do you understand that just trying to call me a former leftist is part of why the Right keeps losing the culture war? It's always a fucking purity spiral about who can prove themselves 'most to the Right' and then we end up with fucktards like Milo pulling that shit with Kanye on Trump.

Though you are right that a lot of the GOP didn't encourage their kids to pursue those kind of institutional jobs, because the GOP is the party of 'SMALL GOVERNMENT', or so I've been told repeatedly when I try to talk about environmental issues.

But the GOP active desire for limiting gov power is an issue that has it's roots long, long before I was even born; the GOP and it's base want less government and institutional power presiding over them as whole, so why would they want to be part of those institutions, even before the Left was openly trying to coopt them?

That's something you can ask the old school GOP and Boomer-cons about, because they are the one's who caused it.

And let's not pretend political camo works both ways in the DoD, as proven by fucking Vindman, Milley, and now AF Sec Brown; the Left don't need to wear camo about their politics and can be political, far more than the Right can, in terms of openly operating in institutions.

Your idea of conservatives trying to hide and slide up the ladder in the DoD being effective does not hold water when the fact is, the DoD is at the end of the day under the control of a civie gov who is increasing woke.

As for being willing to 'give up', well, sometimes shit's broke and nothing will fix it, and any attempt will just be a largely wasted effort out of pride or stubbornness. I understand what a 'sunk cost fallacy' is, I'm not sure you do.

 

[sillygoose]

I have quite literally never said Lenin was a good person, merely better than the Tsars and Stalin and, above that, Competent.

What did Nicholas the Czar order that was nearly as bad?

 

[King Arts]

Have you considered that I'm not a 'leftist', just a classical liberal/libertarian type who the Far-Left dragged the party way from.

Do I need to get Musk's meme about how 'I never moved, the Left just moved away from me' for you?

Do you understand that just trying to call me a former leftist is part of why the Right keeps losing the culture war? It's always a fucking purity spiral about who can prove themselves 'most to the Right' and then we end up with fucktards like Milo pulling that shit with Kanye on Trump.

Though you are right that a lot of the GOP didn't encourage their kids to pursue those kind of institutional jobs, because the GOP is the party of 'SMALL GOVERNMENT', or so I've been told repeatedly when I try to talk about environmental issues.

But the GOP active desire for limiting gov power is an issue that has it's roots long, long before I was even born; the GOP and it's base want less government and institutional power presiding over them as whole, so why would they want to be part of those institutions, even before the Left was openly trying to coopt them?

That's something you can ask the old school GOP and Boomer-cons about, because they are the one's who caused it.

And let's not pretend political camo works both ways in the DoD, as proven by fucking Vindman, Milley, and now AF Sec Brown; the Left don't need to wear camo about their politics and can be political, far more than the Right can, in terms of openly operating in institutions.

Your idea of conservatives trying to hide and slide up the ladder in the DoD being effective does not hold water when the fact is, the DoD is at the end of the day under the control of a civie gov who is increasing woke.

As for being willing to 'give up', well, sometimes shit's broke and nothing will fix it, and any attempt will just be a largely wasted effort out of pride or stubbornness. I understand what a 'sunk cost fallacy' is, I'm not sure you do.

But you were a leftist Bacle. I remember on SB you once advocated removing tax free status from churches that would not perform gay weddings.

 

[Jormungandr]

Why should it have been? The Qing Dynasty, for all the Chinese like to claim their territory as theirs, wasn't a Chinese dynasty. The rulers of the Qing were a semi-nomadic steppe people from Manchuria, the Manchu, and were an ethnic minority ruling over a Han Chinese majority and did many things to emphasize that. The cliched "Chinese" hairstyle known as the queue? That wasn't a traditional Chinese hairstyle, it was a traditional MANCHU hairstyle that the government FORCED men to wear to show their subjugation to the Manchu. Likewise there were many policies taken by the Manchu meant to preserve their personal culture and prevent Sinofication like prior outside ruling dynasties had succumbed to.

So why should the Chinese (Han) take any wakeup from the fall of the Qing (Manchu)? It wasn't THEIR government... it wasn't THEIR rule. In fact while the fall of the Qing saw the century of humiliation, one could make a case that the Chinese were overthrowing a foreign ruler who had grown corrupt and incompetent. The Qing's failure is not a reflection on the failure of the Chinese in their mind, but rather, the failure of another barbarian foreign rulers.

The arrogance isn't limited to just the Han, although typically they're the worst of the lot (seriously, they're as racist as fuck to even other Chinese ethnic groups). In fact, they actively colluded because they knew how fucking stupid Cixi's decisions were, and the RoC almost had its founding several decades earlier than in OTL if the Court quickly fell.

But yeah, Cixi's actions were a prime example of their arrogance diluted into a single individual's actions, thoughts, and beliefs -- despite being hesitant, she naively presumed that China would prevail no matter what the odds were, and this is reflected in her actions.

Thankfully, a good portion of the various provincial governments weren't as goddamn stupid as her, a positive thing I can say, and despite the directives issued down by the Imperial Court, basically told her/them to fuck off and that they weren't going to fight the Europeans/Americans/Russians and support a bunch of terrorists (it's hilarious because they were actively arresting/killing them instead of supporting them as ordered).

Despite that clusterfuck being a rude shock that, newsflash, China wasn't a top dog any more, that arrogance, right down to the cultural level, persists to this very day. They have a massive, massive chip on their shoulders, and the CCP's actions are a symptom, not a cause.

At least the Chinese who live in Hong Kong and Taiwan are, AFAIK as an outsider, different, and I attribute that to Western ties influencing the regional cultures over time.

But until Chinese culture and civilization curb their arrogance? There will always be bad times for them in the future, no matter who is in charge.

 

[King Arts]

The arrogance isn't limited to just the Han, although typically they're the worst of the lot (seriously, they're as racist as fuck to even other Chinese ethnic groups). In fact, they actively colluded because they knew how fucking stupid Cixi's decisions were, and the RoC almost had its founding several decades earlier than in OTL if the Court quickly fell.

But yeah, Cixi's actions were a prime example of their arrogance diluted into a single individual's actions, thoughts, and beliefs -- despite being hesitant, she naively presumed that China would prevail no matter what the odds were, and this is reflected in her actions.

Thankfully, a good portion of the various provincial governments weren't as goddamn stupid as her, a positive thing I can say, and despite the directives issued down by the Imperial Court, basically told her/them to fuck off and that they weren't going to fight the Europeans/Americans/Russians and support a bunch of terrorists (it's hilarious because they were actively arresting/killing them instead of supporting them as ordered).

Despite that clusterfuck being a rude shock that, newsflash, China wasn't a top dog any more, that arrogance, right down to the cultural level, persists to this very day. They have a massive, massive chip on their shoulders, and the CCP's actions are a symptom, not a cause.

At least the Chinese who live in Hong Kong and Taiwan are, AFAIK as an outsider, different, and I attribute that to Western ties influencing the regional cultures over time.

But until Chinese culture and civilization curb their arrogance? There will always be bad times for them in the future, no matter who is in charge.

Aren't you English? Can't the same be said about Anglos and their pride and expectation towards their former colonies and the way they act towards India which is now MORE powerful than them? I mean sure they have the protection of America but.

What did Nicholas the Czar order that was nearly as bad?

To be fair Nicholas was an incompetent if it wasn't for him Russia would not have lost at least two wars in a humiliating fashion and it would not have had multiple revolts including the one that led to communism winning.

Sometimes incompetence is almost as bad as malice.

 

[Vyor]

What did Nicholas the Czar order that was nearly as bad?

Threw dissenters into the machinegun fire of germans without a weapon in WW1 just as a start. Intentionally poisoned and addicted the populace to alcohol and then wielded the supply as a weapon against them, caused multiple famines...

And note: I said better than the Tsars, as in plural. Though I should have said tsarists instead, my bad there.

But also yeah, this:

To be fair Nicholas was an incompetent if it wasn't for him Russia would not have lost at least two wars in a humiliating fashion and it would not have had multiple revolts including the one that led to communism winning.

Sometimes incompetence is almost as bad as malice.

 

[Jormungandr]

Aren't you English? Can't the same be said about Anglos and their pride and expectation towards their former colonies and the way they act towards India which is now MORE powerful than them? I mean sure they have the protection of America but.


To be fair Nicholas was an incompetent if it wasn't for him Russia would not have lost at least two wars in a humiliating fashion and it would not have had multiple revolts including the one that led to communism winning.

Sometimes incompetence is almost as bad as malice.

sigh Subtle dig is not a subtle dig; we all know about your rabid hatred of anything and everything British/English. Seriously, get help.

Threw dissenters into the machinegun fire of germans without a weapon in WW1 just as a start. Intentionally poisoned and addicted the populace to alcohol and then wielded the supply as a weapon against them, caused multiple famines...

And note: I said better than the Tsars, as in plural. Though I should have said tsarists instead, my bad there.

But also yeah, this:

Yeah, even if WW1 hadn't been kicked off (even then a war of some sort was inevitable, given how Europe was a powderkeg that'd been growing for like over a century by that point), Imperial Russia's days were pretty much numbered anyway. There was just too much bad blood between various classes and parts of the population.

Unfortunately, an even worse option replaced it/the Tsars which helped spread a proverbial plague.

Which is ironic, as the author apparently likes certain flavours of communism?

 

[Bacle]

Shit like this doesn't help; hadn't another base also been caught trying this a while back.