Military US Military Is Scared Americans Won't Fight For Globalism

[Scottty]

The little twerp was only 10, from what I can recall. Plus Soros is actually 6 years older than the arch villain of humanity, Jacob Rothschild.

All of Israel was in a meltdown over Yair's meme though.

Now I want to see what this meme was.

 

[ATP]

Didden't he sell out other Jews to the Nazis to save his own skin?

Worst.He was perfectly safe with faked documents,but decide to made some money on dying jews.And so he did.
Becouse,according to him,they would die anyway.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Alright.
Let the military and every aspect you complain about become worse because you have a stick so far up your ass you don't know which way it is pointing.
The whole aspect of "Let the left have it" is such a counter thesis to the whole idea of what the right fights for.
Why do you think academia is so bad? Because the right said "fuck it" and most don't go into those fields.
Why do you think Hollywood os so bad?

If more people on the right was willing to pull up thier fuxking britches and actually decide to do the hard work instead of complain and wonder why all these institutions are failing, they wouldn't be having these issues.

Because guess what, in the end Blue Collar does a lot for the country, yes.
But the left will eventually attempt to infiltrate and destroy our hold on those.
Because we seem to just let them with everything.

Keep coping and seething, fed. No one is going to bleed and die so the globohomo can stay in power a couple seconds longer.

 

[Zachowon]

Keep coping and seething, fed. No one is going to bleed and die so the globohomo can stay in power a couple seconds longer.

The globobomo isn't who we would be fighting for.
It would be for .among sure those that don't want to go out and die arnt forced to and for the stability of the country.
Unlike your country which has thrown in the towel

 

[DarthOne]

The globobomo isn't who we would be fighting for.
It would be for .among sure those that don't want to go out and die arnt forced to and for the stability of the country.
Unlike your country which has thrown in the towel

And I am the King of Spain!

 

[Jormungandr]

And I am the King of Spain!

You're still not getting Gibraltar back.

 

[ATP]

You're still not getting Gibraltar back.

Of course.I ,King of England,would never agree to that! Gibraltar would be mine forever !

 

[Ixian]

Lol, after how the military whipped their ass with religious freedoms over the Covid vax, you'd have to be brain dead to enlist.

 

[ATP]

Lol, after how the military whipped their ass with religious freedoms over the Covid vax, you'd have to be brain dead to enlist.

Of course.If they take one freedom,they could take another,too.
Even atheists should be not stupid enough to enlist now.

To be honest,only good reason is the same for which irish patriots go to british army - learn how to kill for future Independence war.

 

[Bassoe]

Keep coping and seething, fed. No one is going to bleed and die so the globohomo can stay in power a couple seconds longer.

This. Patriotism is dead given that the American Empire objectively speaking makes us poorer* and less safe** and we all know about goverments weaponizing the draft as a means of genocide.

The people who want WW3 so they can patch over America's social problems with civil liberty-violating brute force granted "for the duration of the emergency" and murder dissidents by conscription into a meatgrinder are a greater threat than any foreigners.

Because that's what it would entail in the end. Biden or whoever succeeds him (with the only possible exception of Trump) will send you and your buddies to a new Vietnam. Which in turn means you drag the rest of NATO members , regardless of who shot first, directly or indirectly towards that. And for what ? So that you might have a temporary satellite like Afghanistan where your "supposedly allied" troops of locals can inject or smoke opioids and indulge in stuff like depravity against minors as many the Afghan National Army did under the last three US presidencies?


If his wish is fullfilled The Sietch will be vaporized just like anything east of the Straits. I rather keep the forum alive in the literal sense of the word and not being atomic glass. Frankly no country would go unscathed one way or another.

To be frank, I think we’d be looking at something more akin to World War III with side orders of Afghanistan and Vietnam, if Zach somehow got what he wanted.

Certainly, you’d be looking at draft-dodging and demonstrations at home like we’ve never seen before, as well as mass-mutinies and refusals to fight that threaten to tear the military and broader country apart. At which point, I think even the usual suspects (read: Neocons) would start to distance themselves, when they realize it’s more than just civilians with no say over military affairs who’re rebelling.

Doesn’t help that Zach’s last few posts (and in fact, his posts throughout the years) are so blasé about starting world-ending wars with real consequences for hundreds of millions of real people, either. Really, if you wanted me to show why more Americans distrust the Neocons and their warped sense of judgment so much, @Zachowon is Exhibit A.

Zach cannot accept that the US public has no taste for what he wants to have happen, and that his desire to show how 'mighty' the US is just underscores how insecure parts of the US military are about being in peace time after what happened in A-stan.

The US will be supplying weapons to places like Ukraine that need military gear, that's not in doubt, but he really doesn't get that most of the US populace doesn't have the same insecurities he and other motards do about needing to 'show off' the US military strength.

Though why Zach hasn't just tried to find a way to go volunteer to fight in Ukraine, if he really wants to see combat that badly, is kinda mystifying.

They can help fix that divide far more than war can.

The problems plaguing the US are not problem that can be solved by distracting people with a war, or by trying to use war-time powers to force unity.

The only healing that will truly mend the societal rifts in the US is the kinda that comes from dealing with the domestic issues as they are honestly and without any PR spin from any side.

You cannot enforce unity and loyalty, even if you threaten a draft, as I know you expect to be able to utilize.

Then again, I guess good old southern boys have never had a problem seeking to enforce a type of slavery on their fellow man.

Edit: Let's not mince words, the 'unity' you seek in war is the type granted by war-time draft powers and forcing people into 'service', while also looking for an excuse to paper over domestic issues with war-time restrictions on freedom of speech.

* Without American naval forces patrolling the oceans against piracy and military World Policing™ the entire planet, offshoring would be a lot riskier so we'd still have middle-class manufacturing jobs.
** Currently trying to drag us into nuclear apocalypse to protect the Ukrainian puppet regime.

 

[Marduk]

This. Patriotism is dead given that the American Empire objectively speaking makes us poorer*

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and less safe** and we all know about goverments weaponizing the draft as a means of genocide.

The people who want WW3 so they can patch over America's social problems with civil liberty-violating brute force granted "for the duration of the emergency" and murder dissidents by conscription into a meatgrinder are a greater threat than any foreigners.

Stop projecting Russian policy on USA. USA doesn't fight this way and doesn't even have the means to fight this way - moving and supplying the US professional army overseas is logistically challenging enough and unpractical to do with even half of it at a time, no one is going to throw millions of conscripts on top of that burden.

* Without American naval forces patrolling the oceans against piracy and military World Policing™ the entire planet, offshoring would be a lot riskier so we'd still have middle-class manufacturing jobs.

Also everyone would be poorer, USA especially.

** Currently trying to drag us into nuclear apocalypse to protect the Ukrainian puppet regime.

And here you demonstrate 1:1 repeating of certain aggressive internet shill's slogans seriously, definitely and unavoidably ruining the credibility of everything you just said.
Go on, let cheap propaganda dictate what you think, everyone will think you're so clever.

 

[Bacle]

<citation needed>

Eh, it's not dead, but American civil society is barely functional as is, and the way the powers in DC have acted for the past 6+ years has done nothing to fix any of it, often instead making the divisions and fracture lines widen.

Patriotism in the sense the DoD likes in recruits is a vanishingly rare thing among most of the youth in the US, because we know the emperor has no clothes, and neither do his generals, and the Boomer PR illussions about 'the American Dream' being realistic is a farce that ignores the off-shoring and other short-term gain measures that have gutted the society and economy that allowed the Boomers their level of comfort in life.

America is a banana republic that exports Hollywood and Raytheon; hard to feel patriotic about that unless you are one of the regime's favored groups.

Stop projecting Russian policy on USA. USA doesn't fight this way and doesn't even have the means to fight this way - moving and supplying the US professional army overseas is logistically challenging enough and unpractical to do with even half of it at a time, no one is going to throw millions of conscripts on top of that burden.

You do remember the folks in DC bragging about 'sourcing any expeditionary forces' from red states a few years back, right?

And just look at the Wu Flu stuff; demographic/political group destruction via conscription in event of a draft being enacted is not an unreasonable fear. If DC could get away with tossing it's disfavored groups into a meatgrinder like Bahkmut to get rid of them, I think the powers in DC would. Just look at what the powers in DC did to excuse killing people with ventilator protocols in hospitals during the pandemic, and the damage the Wu Flu shots have done.

The Western countries are in no way above trying to rid themselves of 'excess'/'disfavored' populations, even if they do not use the rather direct and brutal methods Russia employs.

And let's not forget that Zach has openly admitted to wanting large scale combat to kick off partly because he feels it will 'unify' the US domestically by papering-over the actual issues that are dividing the US, while also having shown that he is one of those who does want to use the threat of a draft to get people to join in peace-time and acts like domestic policy outside DoD support doesn't much matter to him. He's even said he thinks only unity in a war can 'fix' the US, and that the domestic divides run too deep for anything else to work, while ignoring that part of the reason the US has domestic problems at the scale it does now is because the neocons burned the US public's trust in A-stan and Iraq and left the domestic door wide open to the Dems and woke shit.

Also everyone would be poorer, USA especially.

Mexico and Canada have most of what the US needs to sustain ourselves domestically, and there are few materials/resources the US couldn't source in the Americas if we desired.

And here you demonstrate 1:1 repeating of certain aggressive internet shill's slogans seriously, definitely and unavoidably ruining the credibility of everything you just said.
Go on, let cheap propaganda dictate what you think, everyone will think you're so clever.

Yes, the idea that Ukraine is a 'puppet regime' is a farce, and that the US is who is responsible for this war is also a farce.

 

[Morphic Tide]

Without American naval forces patrolling the oceans against piracy and military World Policing™ the entire planet, offshoring would be a lot riskier so we'd still have middle-class manufacturing jobs.

No, that's overwhelmingly on opening the Chinese market, the infrastructure advantages made offshoring on a major scale impractical to Quarterly Gains Worshippers until CCP kleptocrats figured out they could make gargantuan amounts footing the bill for factories, ports, roads, and coal plants to "set the stage" for receiving a disgusting amount of the world's industrial work.

 

[Zachowon]

And the trade with the CCP is dying down do to shady business practices

 

[Cherico]

And the trade with the CCP is dying down do to shady business practices

the fun part comes when the CCP nationalizes all resources in their country and all of the remaining US companies look on with surprised pikachu faces.

 

[King Arts]

Eh, it's not dead, but American civil society is barely functional as is, and the way the powers in DC have acted for the past 6+ years has done nothing to fix any of it, often instead making the divisions and fracture lines widen.

Patriotism in the sense the DoD likes in recruits is a vanishingly rare thing among most of the youth in the US, because we know the emperor has no clothes, and neither do his generals, and the Boomer PR illussions about 'the American Dream' being realistic is a farce that ignores the off-shoring and other short-term gain measures that have gutted the society and economy that allowed the Boomers their level of comfort in life.

America is a banana republic that exports Hollywood and Raytheon; hard to feel patriotic about that unless you are one of the regime's favored groups.

Do you have split personality or are you trolling?

One second you are spitting on the US global empire and it's leaders, yet the next you are defending Ukraine which is what those same leaders want? Like say that Zach is a warmonger or something else, but at least he is consistent.

 

[Marduk]

Eh, it's not dead, but American civil society is barely functional as is, and the way the powers in DC have acted for the past 6+ years has done nothing to fix any of it, often instead making the divisions and fracture lines widen.

Patriotism in the sense the DoD likes in recruits is a vanishingly rare thing among most of the youth in the US, because we know the emperor has no clothes, and neither do his generals, and the Boomer PR illussions about 'the American Dream' being realistic is a farce that ignores the off-shoring and other short-term gain measures that have gutted the society and economy that allowed the Boomers their level of comfort in life.

America is a banana republic that exports Hollywood and Raytheon; hard to feel patriotic about that unless you are one of the regime's favored groups.

You do remember the folks in DC bragging about 'sourcing any expeditionary forces' from red states a few years back, right?

Still, on technical grounds alone the idea of USA pulling 5-10 Vietnams worth of losses in some random expeditionary war for even some tiny demographic effect (or more like 50-100 for a meaningful one) is ludicrous.

And just look at the Wu Flu stuff; demographic/political group destruction via conscription in event of a draft being enacted is not an unreasonable fear. If DC could get away with tossing it's disfavored groups into a meatgrinder like Bahkmut to get rid of them, I think the powers in DC would. Just look at what the powers in DC did to excuse killing people with ventilator protocols in hospitals during the pandemic, and the damage the Wu Flu shots have done.

I'm sure some would wish, but getting the military establishment, politics and the technical means aligned to make it happen is a whole another can of worms. If even one of these items is misaligned it could go rather sideways for them.

The Western countries are in no way above trying to rid themselves of 'excess'/'disfavored' populations, even if they do not use the rather direct and brutal methods Russia employs.

And let's not forget that Zach has openly admitted to wanting large scale combat to kick off partly because he feels it will 'unify' the US domestically by papering-over the actual issues that are dividing the US, while also having shown that he is one of those who does want to use the threat of a draft to get people to join in peace-time and acts like domestic policy outside DoD support doesn't much matter to him. He's even said he thinks only unity in a war can 'fix' the US, and that the domestic divides run too deep for anything else to work, while ignoring that part of the reason the US has domestic problems at the scale it does now is because the neocons burned the US public's trust in A-stan and Iraq and left the domestic door wide open to the Dems and woke shit.

This is a random assumption of a relationship that doesn't exist.
The same people shilling woke shit were always against the foreign interventions, even before Cold War ended.

Mexico and Canada have most of what the US needs to sustain ourselves domestically, and there are few materials/resources the US couldn't source in the Americas if we desired.

Theoretically, possible. But will it and would it? Probably not. A major part of that being the environmentalist lobbies in USA and Canada.

 

[Bacle]

Do you have split personality or are you trolling?

One second you are spitting on the US global empire and it's leaders, yet the next you are defending Ukraine which is what those same leaders want? Like say that Zach is a warmonger or something else, but at least he is consistent.

I am just able to separate domestic US issues from the issues facing Ukraine, unlike some people here.

Still, on technical grounds alone the idea of USA pulling 5-10 Vietnams worth of losses in some random expeditionary war for even some tiny demographic effect (or more like 50-100 for a meaningful one) is ludicrous.

Ridiculous or not, the powers in DC have very much put thought into using disfavored demographics as cannon fodder, or of removing them in other ways

We live in clown world now, never forget that; just because something is ridiculous and stupid in no way means it is unrealistic or improbable anymore.

I'm sure some would wish, but getting the military establishment, politics and the technical means aligned to make it happen is a whole another can of worms. If even one of these items is misaligned it could go rather sideways for them.

The powers were able to push the farce of the 'Russian Collusion' hoax against Trump for years despite everyone in power knowing it was a complete farce, including the heads of the intel agencies who told Obama as much.

And then let's not forget how fast the powers in DC aligned to push all the ineffective and harmful bullshit around the Wu Flu to cause needless deaths via the ventilator protocol BS while raising all sorts of hell over anyone not living in fear of the Wu FLu 24/7.

Yet when George Floyd died they showed that there are two sets of rules in the US; one set of rules for those who are politically favored, one set for those who are not, and that the woke ideology is what matters most at the end of the day, with science and politics being subservient to it.

And let's not even get into how the vax mandates were abused by so many gov agencies to push conservatives/non-woke folks out of places, including the DoD.

The powers in DC could and absolutely would decimate their own population to get rid of disfavored groups, if they thought they could get away with it, and the Wu Flu fuckery shows how quickly they can get the US gov/public to comply with otherwise ridiculous decrees and bypass due process and Constitutional limits 'because of the emergency'.

This is a random assumption of a relationship that doesn't exist.
The same people shilling woke shit were always against the foreign interventions, even before Cold War ended.

You seem to forget the woke shit is part of what was used to justify staying in A-stan and Iraq, particularly 'women's/girl's rights' and 'LGB rights' as part of the 'hearts and minds' campaigns in both nations.

Theoretically, possible. But will it and would it? Probably not. A major part of that being the environmentalist lobbies in USA and Canada.

I mean you aren't wrong that the radical greens and far-Left environmental groups would be as much of a hinderance to the US in this regard as any foreign power, like Venezuela or Brazil.

 

[Bassoe]

Yes, the idea that Ukraine is a 'puppet regime' is a farce, and that the US is who is responsible for this war is also a farce.

Do you have split personality or are you trolling?

One second you are spitting on the US global empire and it's leaders, yet the next you are defending Ukraine which is what those same leaders want? Like say that Zach is a warmonger or something else, but at least he is consistent.

The US literally couped the elected goverment for being too friendly toward Russia. Since then, their politics have made zero sense from a perspective of national benefit, given that their infastructure has been bombed to rubble, their women fled abroad to richer countries as refugees never to return, their men genocided via conscription and their country indebted to the usual suspects to the point where even if they somehow won, they'd be weimar-tier for the foreseeable future. All they'd have needed to do to avoid the complete destruction of their country would've been to say they wouldn't join NATO.

 

[Vyor]

Mexico and Canada have most of what the US needs to sustain ourselves domestically, and there are few materials/resources the US couldn't source in the Americas if we desired.

Name the three biggest suppliers of microchips in the world and where they are based.