Military US Military Is Scared Americans Won't Fight For Globalism
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We have a lot but not personally why?
I'm pretty sure you're way off the mark but nothing I say is going to change you're mind. New laws are on the books to prevent the Democrats from stealing another election. There are election police hired by local officials (most of whom are Republicans) to ensure it doesn't happened again. There is no incoming draft or forced conscription. I've literally seen nothing on it and it would be political suicide for tne Dems to do it. I'm not sure what else I can tell ya on this.
bintananth
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This decision actually does make sense when setting the minimum standards.
Age catches up with everyone and there are differences between men and women in terms of athletic potential.
But the women is so easy I have seen out of shape women pass more then they should
bintananth
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The standards being right is another issue entirely ...
If the Army wants, say, 90% of everyone they've got in any given age/sex group to pass the basic fitness test then the standards for a guy your age will be a lot more demanding than the one a general in her 60s has to meet.
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I think its far less controversy, probably least of all, when it comes to old officers in whose training the military has already invested an immense amount of resources, yet they are in a point in their career where they are unlikely to do physical work anyway.
The biggest controversy is about who is going to get the chance to start that career, at a point where they do in fact need to be physically capable, and have the military invest into training them, keeping in mind that in many of frontline roles that training may be wasted if the person receiving it is physically unfit to apply that training effectively in the field.
bintananth
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The article addresses that concern too. Not everyone has a frontline role (most don't) and someone will also have to meet the fitness standards their role requires if they're higher.
Army Reducing Its Numbers in Face of Recruiting Difficulties
The Army this week admitted it was having problems recruiting and announced a reduction in its numbers for fiscal year 2022 and 2023.
www.breitbart.com
Heh, this isn"t a surprise, particularly given they are booting people over not taking the Wu Flu vax, plus losing soldiers in thier sleep to...odd ailments since the vax was pushed out, have the A-stan withdrawal hanging over them, less than 25% of the pop would even be able to enlist without a waiver, tight civie labor market, and the 'Woke' bullshit infesting the Pentagon
Maybe the military brass should stop huffing thier own farts and start realizing that they will have to either scale back thier commitments, or accept being chronically undermanned going forward. Because the military life is attractive to fewer and fewer people anymore, and the public are more aware than ever of the idiocy , pettiness, and political bias of our military leadership.
And that is how you get a draft to happen when a war breaks out.Army Reducing Its Numbers in Face of Recruiting Difficulties
The Army this week admitted it was having problems recruiting and announced a reduction in its numbers for fiscal year 2022 and 2023.
Heh, this isn"t a surprise, particularly given they are booting people over not taking the Wu Flu vax, plus losing soldiers in thier sleep to...odd ailments since the vax was pushed out, have the A-stan withdrawal hanging over them, less than 25% of the pop would even be able to enlist without a waiver, tight civie labor market, and the 'Woke' bullshit infesting the Pentagon
Maybe the military brass should stop huffing thier own farts and start realizing that they will have to either scale back thier commitments, or accept being chronically undermanned going forward. Because the military life is attractive to fewer and fewer people anymore, and the public are more aware than ever of the idiocy , pettiness, and political bias of our military leadership.
Because guess what....
The tines we have needed drafts are when the military downsizes
And threatening a draft, particularly during peacetime, is not going to happen, because it is political suicide for whoever floats the idea.
Actually attempting to pass legislation to bring back the draft would probably see riots that make the BLM riots look tame and could lead to a second civil war if DC is actually dumb enough to attempt to enforce a draft.
With the economy and US social situation rather iffy as is, attempting to bring back the draft just to make up numbers lost to Wu Flu bullshit discharges/Wu Flu vax deaths could very easily be the straw that breaks the Republic's back.
Edit: Also, a 'war time' draft is unlikely to happen, because most 'wars' that could justify a draft would be against people who will enforce MAD, thus the draft would be moot, because the nation would already be filled with radioactive craters by the time a draft could even be implemented and there will be bigger issues than trying to get warm bodies for foreign adventures.
I mean, if war over Taiwan happens the Navy won't have enough people and a draft will be needed.
The point I am making is that the more you celebrate people not wanting to join, the more and more likely a draft is likely to happen.
I celebrate people seeing through the recruitment and PR bullshit the military utilizes, and I am not naive enough to think a fight over Taiwan wouldn't escalate to MAD long before any draft could actually be put into effect.
But that's the reality you don't want to deal with; that any threat that justifies a draft is also a threat where MAD would likely make a draft moot.
Edit: Also, trying to draft people to fight for Taiwan is going to run smack into the fact that a lot of the US populace is already 4F thanks to how widespread stuff like clinical depression, ADHD, etc. are in the current US populace and the fact the meds people take for those effectively removes them from the enlistment and draft pool already.
Less than 1/4 people in the US qualifies for enlistement standards these days as is; you think that number is going to get better by threatening a draft over Taiwan?
This is why the US military needs to start scaling it's commitments to it's manpower, not trying to scale manpower to it's commitments.
I think the real point is that the military needs to stop doing the woke shit, stop kicking people out for not wanting to get the WuFlu vax, clean house amongst the upper ranks, and just generally do better than it has been the past few decades. The only reason people are celebrating is the same reason people celebrate when some woke bullshit doesn't work out for some company that used to make something we actually enjoyed.
You think the US Military doesn't allow for ADHD people to join? They can join.
The Army also throws away such things when a draft comes up.
Because plenty in already suffer form these things and need bodies.
But you know what the military does that majority of other things won't do?
Pay off your student loans
Free collage worhout needing a scholarship.
A stable paying job and a place to live with no other bills to make money off of.
Can legit see the world.
The military I about what you make of it.
Not suffering because you decide to suffer.
A draft is going to happen if we keep cutting back and a war happens.
Because guess what. Bodies will be needed I'd our Navy is to remain on top, same with the AF.
But people like you are to far lost in thinking having a weaker military means more money or things elsewhere.
It just means you make us less and less of a world power and allows other countries to walk over us.
I fully agree on the woke shit, though still have yet to see it at FORSCOM in the Army.
It takes forever for those kinda things to get through the whole army, and by then we iften change admin.
And they are and arnt kicking people out
Right now they just require people to get tested in Tuesdays and Thuesdays if that.
They don't check to see of you are vaccinated and could honestly lie.
This is the military we are talking about. We are not THAT efficient in the medical care area.
I still have yet to see any actual people kicked out besides empty threats. People constantly point out small things.
The SEALS are about the only thing I can think of.
Ah yes, the old recruitment spiel; it might work with people less informed than me. Let's go over this point by point.
1) Paying off student loans isn't worth military life to most people. The GI bill worked when it first came out because of how few people went to college before then, and how hard it was to get into college's period. It is no longer the carrot it once was, and a lot of civie jobs offer effectively the same thing. This is even before we get into the reputational issues the military has.
2) 'Stable paying job and housing with no bills'; it's hilarious you say that with a straight face. You know damn well the job may be stable, but the pay isn't, and the housing is often rather crap. Also, you do have to pay bills if you eat anywhere but the mess.
3) You repeat your claim about the draft, while ignoring the realities of what sort of fight would require it and how that has implications that could result in MAD every easily.
4) I'm not just wanting less power for the military for budgetary reasons, though I do have those as well. My main reason for not wanting too strong a military is because a weaker US military is less of a threat to the average US citizen. I have little doubt that the main target of the US military will become US citizenry in the future, with the way political winds are blowing in DC, and the less tools and personnel the US military has to turn back against it's own people, the better. Aside from the nuclear triad and Coast Guard, and maybe the Corp of Engineers, most of the rest of the US military is not actually needed if the goal is to protect the US, rather than be world police who can be turned against their home by their paymasters in DC.
All of this is even before we get into the fact DC is not trustworthy, that the brass of all services are political players more than soldiers or sailors, the officer cult mentality of many services, the nepotism, the 'Army Wives'/prostitution/cheating issues, the loss of freedom of speech and freedom of religion as evidence by what they are pulling with the Wu Flu shit, and the way the IC foists it's fuck-ups off by scapegoating interns while being a more and more political player.
Ok that's just plain wrong.
All you need to do to turbo fuck china is two destroyers. What you do is you go into the indian ocean and you prevent the slow heavy oil tankers from getting to china. These are large and huge targets so this is not difficult. The chinese navy cant stop this and they know it.
China is not food or energy independent, keep it up for 6 months and the lights go out keep it up for a year and 500 million chinese people die.
If you want to cause mass havok sooner your send a few missles at the damn and you have just killed over 50 million people right there and wreaked much of their energy production. If your feeling mean. You do not engage the chinese in a ground war because that's retarded. You shut off their ability to buy food and energy and you starve them to death. Our current milatary forces are completely capable of doing this.
Japan is capable of doing this, India is capable of doing, fucking australia can do this.
Then you are in for a world of surprises. Its a pet peeve theory created by naive peacenik left.
Meanwhile, you would be clever to compare your theory to real, existing authoritarian countries whose governments do in fact threaten their population on a regular basis.
Do any of them have a strong, professional military? How much of the day to day oppressing is even done by the military there?
They all use national police forces