Military US Military Is Scared Americans Won't Fight For Globalism

[Blasterbot]

I mean, possible, but you can't gurantee to get that high. And you can't gurentee to end up in spots that you would need to be.
The military is one if the most anti communist groups I have ever met.
One of the few groups you can actively shit on and not get looks about.
Them and the nazis.

One also has to realize that congress dictates what we can and can't do policy wise so it wouldn't matter if they did infiltrate it.
Congress can fire them

Yeah you can't guarentee an individual gets that high. but if you flood the officer recruits for years with maoist cultural revolution bullshit? you get a lot of people in the middle ranks and some in the upper ranks who can act to paralyze an administration and lie about troop movements like what happened with Trump or alternately if You have an administration Like the Biden admin has been you can do stupid shit to deliberately drive down recruitment numbers for when the revolution is ready.

 

[Zachowon]

Yeah you can't guarentee an individual gets that high. but if you flood the officer recruits for years with maoist cultural revolution bullshit? you get a lot of people in the middle ranks and some in the upper ranks who can act to paralyze an administration and lie about troop movements like what happened with Trump or alternately if You have an administration Like the Biden admin has been you can do stupid shit to deliberately drive down recruitment numbers for when the revolution is ready.

Retention in the Army for instance though is about where they want it to be.
And you barley ever see said people if they believe what they were taught at all.

For instance, I worked with a Captain who was definitely leftist. But he was not a commie and was an advocate against it.
It would be hard pressed to find anyone who is a commie or maoist within the military due to the nature of it.

And Congress again controlls the military.
All it takes is a single senator to prevent said generals getting rank.

It really isn't easy.
You can't just sign up get maoist indoctrination and then join and reliably stay in.
Especially with how diverse the military is in a good way.
You can have corn fed private from Iowa and the small town college kid who went OCS.
Or you have the big military university grads.
Or you have prior enlisted who went officer.

Anyway, you can not gurantee to have any power or control over what is going on.
What people like Milley did is less maoist and more being overtly progressive and should be court martialed as most of us agree on.

 

[Cherico]

On the topic, British military leadership doesn't seem to realize or accept it.

British public will be called up to fight if UK goes to war because ‘military is too small’, Army chief warns

The British public faces being called up to fight in the event of a war with Russia because the military is "too small", the head of the Army will warn.

www.lbc.co.uk

Gen Z will not accept conscription as the price of previous generations’ failures

Over the past year, I, like many others from my generation, have become increasingly fatalistic.

www.lbc.co.uk

Connor Hand had some actually quite impressive doublethink in trying to reconcile...

To simplify, unless you're actively engaged in manning the nuclear arsenal for MAD deterrence, you're not essential for "national defense". Anything else is just your leadership trying to genocide you with enemy bullets in favor of a new and hopefully cheaper underclass of foreigners or robots.

You have a huge amount of young men through out the western world who will most likely never be able to own a home have a wife and have a family due to the mismanagement by their leading elites. Now you want to give them military training and weapons and send these already disgruntled people to fight.

How do you think this realistically ends?

 

[Bacle]

You have a huge amount of young men through out the western world who will most likely never be able to own a home have a wife and have a family due to the mismanagement by their leading elites. Now you want to give them military training and weapons and send these already disgruntled people to fight.

How do you think this realistically ends?

With drones and lasers; the UK has already field tests a laser-based anti-drone weapon that only cost 10 pounds to fire for a second, and the heating bill of a small radiator to fire for an hour of sustained use. It is trailer mobile as well, IIRC.

And this is just what the public is being allowed to see now.

An artillery warhead on an FPV drone is a hell of a lot more likely to actually kill an enemy in one shot, instead of one or more salvos. Drone dropped grenades are now the preferred method of clearing/bombarding infantry when possible, because it is easier to preserve personnel.

Add in the growing amount of remotely operated naval assets coming on line, and things like uncrewed turrets for the Abrams and most other tanks going forward (all crew in the hull away from ammo and the gun, smaller profile with more armor).

The ace tankers and pilots of tomorrow are playing War Thunder, and that is no longer a joke.

 

[Blasterbot]

With drones and lasers; the UK has already field tests a laser-based anti-drone weapon that only cost 10 pounds to fire for a second, and the heating bill of a small radiator to fire for an hour of sustained use. It is trailer mobile as well, IIRC.

And this is just what the public is being allowed to see now.

An artillery warhead on an FPV drone is a hell of a lot more likely to actually kill an enemy in one shot, instead of one or more salvos. Drone dropped grenades are now the preferred method of clearing/bombarding infantry when possible, because it is easier to preserve personnel.

Add in the growing amount of remotely operated naval assets coming on line, and things like uncrewed turrets for the Abrams and most other tanks going forward (all crew in the hull away from ammo and the gun, smaller profile with more armor).

The ace tankers and pilots of tomorrow are playing War Thunder, and that is no longer a joke.

That is real expensive, holds no territory and leaves only rubble and a very angry populous to claim dominion over after the fact. if your goal is to destroy your nation solid 9/10 plan.

 

[Bacle]

That is real expensive, holds no territory and leaves only rubble and a very angry populous to claim dominion over after the fact. if your goal is to destroy your nation solid 9/10 plan.

No, it means the manning requirements for national security drop, or at least the number of 'frontline' operator/soldiers who have to be in directly in harms way to accomplish a mission.

Even the Marine's are taking lessons from the drone war in Ukraine as they fend off Russia, and realizing that the EW spectrum is the new high ground and that a skilled drone operator can make more effective use of munitions than their original firing platform could.

The modern battlefield is also very transparent becaue of the number of drones, medical evac by chopper will be rare with how AA is overtaking airpower's ability to achieve long term air superiority on any front for any side and the proliferation of more short range AA than we've seen since WW2.

The laser aspect adds in a new, cheaper to fire weapons system, where so long as it has power and cooling and targeting, the system has a very, very, very deep 'magazine' that hit's targets at effectively the speed of light, which is fairly useful against things like hypersonics, while also being cheap enough to use on low end drones to, with the ability to dial the yield of the system down or up to some degree.

It's why so many modern warships are now being built with massively excessive power systems for their base load out, in anticipation of functional combat proven lasers become a standard fixture on large naval units.

 

[Blasterbot]

No, it means the manning requirements for national security drop, or at least the number of 'frontline' operator/soldiers who have to be in directly in harms way to accomplish a mission.

Even the Marine's are taking lessons from the drone war in Ukraine as they fend off Russia, and realizing that the EW spectrum is the new high ground and that a skilled drone operator can make more effective use of munitions than their original firing platform could.

The modern battlefield is also very transparent becaue of the number of drones, medical evac by chopper will be rare with how AA is overtaking airpower's ability to achieve long term air superiority on any front for any side and the proliferation of more short range AA than we've seen since WW2.

The laser aspect adds in a new, cheaper to fire weapons system, where so long as it has power and cooling and targeting, the system has a very, very, very deep 'magazine' that hit's targets at effectively the speed of light, which is fairly useful against things like hypersonics, while also being cheap enough to use on low end drones to, with the ability to dial the yield of the system down or up to some degree.

It's why so many modern warships are now being built with massively excessive power systems for their base load out, in anticipation of functional combat proven lasers become a standard fixture on large naval units.

And you ignored the lack of holding ground. the devestation inflicted by such tactics. and the simmering hatred of the people you are trying to rule over especially after you collateral their families. but if the politicians are stupid enough to enact such a war on their countries it would be the end of the west. Civil war is never pretty and that would result in some very fucked up reprisals.

 

[Agent23]

Wasn't the British army always historically second rate? After all the British are an island nation so they always put priority on their navy.

Their navy is a shit show now, too.

They can ot man and equip their flagship aircraft carrier.
They caught contractors fixing bolts for the reactor of a nuclear sub with instant glue and tape.

Two of their ships just collided and they want to scrap several others to free up people.

Of course, their recruitment goals have not been met, either.

 

[Blasterbot]

Their navy is a shit show now, too.

They can ot man and equip their flagship aircraft carrier.
They caught contractors fixing bolts for the reactor of a nuclear sub with instant glue and tape.

Two of their ships just collided and they want to scrap several others to free up people.

Of course, their recruitment goals have not been met, either.

I hear they are trying to recruit their Muslim immigrant population. it hasn't caught on.

 

[Scottty]

The UK was once the preeminent naval power. What went wrong?

 

[AnimalNoodles]

The UK was once the preeminent naval power. What went wrong?

like the rest of the english speaking world, they are ruled by degenerate parasites

 

[DarthOne]

The UK was once the preeminent naval power. What went wrong?

Same stuff that happened all over the western world. The feminizing of society, declining birth rates, nations hating themselves and their people, mass migration, cronyism…

 

[Agent23]

The UK was once the preeminent naval power. What went wrong?

Liberalism and idiot Tory Bois.

 

[Poe]

Wasn't the British army always historically second rate? After all the British are an island nation so they always put priority on their navy.

Only in terms of numbers compared to places like France. In terms of training and equipment they were always top notch.

 

[S'task]

The UK was once the preeminent naval power. What went wrong?

WW2 happened and England took some of the hardest fighting of that war.

What folks are forgetting is that WW2 utterly devastated England and drained their financial reserves in ways no other war in their history had, and left them with little to no resources to draw on in order to rebuild. Thus they were forced to downsize, release colonies that were no longer profitable or would be to expense to hold given their weakened state. In any prior times in history this would have meant England would have entered a repair and rebuilding phase and then by the 1980s begun reemerging stronger and better, but instead in the period immediately after the war England all but went full communist, and no, I'm not kidding. They nationalized industry after industry, engaged in MASSIVE overregulation of their economy (this is where the "you got a license for that?" culture began) and instead of realizing they needed to be strong on their own, grew complacent under America's defensive umbrella.

This snowballed until the 1980s and Thatcher who TRIED to shake them out of it, but then the 1990s happened with Blair fully embracing the then rising Globalism that has come to define our modern elite... and we know how that goes.

Basically, the English population in the immediate aftermath of WW2 kinda fell into the socialist trap and promises of utopia, and just as in every other place, socialism didn't provide utopia, instead it hollowed out and destroyed the nation.

 

[Jormungandr]

Pretty much.

You have no idea how much pure anger is simmering beneath the surface of the native population (who hasn't drunk the kool-aid) against the government, the police, and migrants (and migrant families, like "British-Pakistanis").

People are literally choosing between paying outrageous rent prices to have a roof over their heads (even a studio apartment not out of place as a Japanese micro-apartment), horrific heating bills to stay warm (while energy companies are reaping billions in profits, with the government getting constant kick-backs), or to just eat basic foodstuffs.

And then we have the police being, well, the police. 'nuff said there.

We're basically a powder keg, and those morons staffing Number 10, the Commons, and the Lords can't see it because they're too far up their own outright corrupt arseholes. It's also hilarious they're trying to smokescreen by blaming Brexit and the Ukrainian-Russian war (especially the latter for the price of food -- the price of fucking potatoes has nothing to do with Ukraine!).

People don't regret Brexit: What we "regret" is how badly is was bungled by our government; a government that still had their collective feet half in the door because they didn't want to leave the EU, and it fucked us all over.

And this isn't going into how people are now becoming more racist and anti-Groomers United and such because of the blatant propaganda going on in media (e.g. the BBC). People can't even take their minds off shit because the entertainment industry is just as compromised.

So, yeah. Things are going to get ugly.

 

[Agent23]

WW2 happened and England took some of the hardest fighting of that war.

It is the 6th country by GDP right now!

Also, you do realize that the British losses during WWII were a drop in the bucket compared to those of other countries, right?

 

[AnimalNoodles]

It is the 6th country by GDP right now!

Also, you do realize that the British losses during WWII were a drop in the bucket compared to those of other countries, right?

that is meaningless. How much stuff does the UK actually produce?

 

[Agent23]

that is meaningless. How much stuff does the UK actually produce?

With a 80 million population and 60% of the 6th largest national GDP going to gubrmint it should be able to buy a hell of a lot.

 

[Agent23]

Also @S'task how about you make a britbong edition of this thread or make it global?