Quickdraw101
Beware My Power-Green Lantern's Light
Or ask China's neighbors if they want back into their influence. Vietnam, India, South Korea, and the Philippines don't like China.
I doubt the Soviet naval capabilities could make much of a difference. They were also extremely battered by the war with Germany. Claiming their involvement outweighed the friggin' nuclear destruction of two cities is moronic. I doubt the Soviets were even a minor consideration.
While he is correct about the media's coverage of this, he really has zero clue of what he is talking about in reference to the actual situation or the implications. Soleimani was far more than "some terrorist asshole" and Trump was absolutely willing to provoke a war with Iran when he authorized this strike.
Note the timing of the cancelation of Pompeo's trip vis a vi this strike, and the reports that Trump has rejected assassinating Soleimani at least once previously, and that Obama refused to take him out because of the expected consequences of doing so.
While Trump would be perfectly fine with Iran backing down, he absolutely did this on the expectation that it would lead to a war with Iran as a consequence.
Please don't derail
I was at fault and I apologize to everyone in the thread. So, moving on.
I'm not sure what exactly Iran could do outside escalating the Proxy war in Iraq.
I'm not sure what exactly Iran could do outside escalating the Proxy war in Iraq.
Time to bring back a McCain classic.
That is exactly the sentiment that I am talking about (although more on SB than here) and that the talking heads are missing.
Note how the crowd clapped for the guy asking the question/making the statement.
There is a very large swath of the US population, especially in the Trump electorate, that ran entirely out of patience with Iran a decade or more ago and will cheer on blowing the hell out of them on pretty much the slightest excuse.
People should also remember the condemnation from much of the right when Trump decided not to retaliate for the drone.
Personally, I have sympathy for the people of Iran, but no fucks to give about the Ayatollah and IRGC.
If Iran escalates, Trump can pull Operation Preying Mantis 2.0 without that much of an issue.
Even just flattening their refineries would probably force Iran to back down and neutralize them as a serious regional competitor. All with minimal civie collateral damage.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Iran Launches Hunt For Soleimani 'Mole;' Back Channel Talks Open - Breaking Defense
TEL AVIV: The Iranian secret service is busy trying to put its hands on the person or persons that leaked the information that allowed the US to kill Maj. Gen Qassem Soleimani minutes after he got off a plane from Syria. If it was a leak… Middle Eastern sources say that the Iranians are totally...
breakingdefense.com
Remember when Trump mentioned 52 targets if Iran does something stupid. Take a guess as to how many American hostages Iran took in the 1970s.
Shit may be getting real.
Seeing reports on Twitter of short range ballistic missile and cruise missile attacks against US and allied assets all over Iraq. Nothing solid yet, but seeing it from multiple mil-watch feeds.
I pray this is a hoax and that Iran isn't stupid enough to do something like this.
Seeing reports on Twitter of short range ballistic missile and cruise missile attacks against US and allied assets all over Iraq. Nothing solid yet, but seeing it from multiple mil-watch feeds.
I pray this is a hoax and that Iran isn't stupid enough to do something like this.
Floridaman
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So like we thought, they decided to use indirect means, using their pets rather than doing it themselves.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
They won't especially Ukraine and Poland.
Even now Tibet and the Uyghurs want out.
To be fair under American influence just like with the Russians there's the possibility of getting replaced if you're one of those random dictators that leads to further instability. Philippines didn't like what happened to them.
Disposable and deniable assets to carryout attacks with the heat directed on them.
Well lots of different information out there what is targeted and if by PMU rockets and/or Missiles launched by Iran itself.
www.jpost.com
US-Iran crisis threatens all-out war in Iraq, Mideast, world - Iraqi PM
"I hope this will be a memorable lesson for America," said Iranian Defense Minister Amir Hatami; Sen. Graham: "You continue this crap, you're going to wake up one day out of the oil business."
www.jpost.com
That depends how do you feel about oil refineries?
Not quite the same as important historical monuments. Refineries while expensive can be replaced.
Your link just says the service is unavailable. I guess Trump bombed them all so badly it even destroyed all mentions of them.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Iran had an earthquake too near their nuke power plant how auspicious.