The wall was mostly built and it would be if Biden didn't take over and cancel construction.
You do know that large sections of the wall were built. Right?
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You do know that large sections of the wall were built. Right?
The Right have been holding back for a long time, which has led us to this despicable point.
If the Right were let loose, the Left and their Cabalist overlords would be gone.
American Freikorps would be reestablishing law and order and mopping up the swamp.
If the Right were let loose, the Left and their Cabalist overlords would be gone.
American Freikorps would be reestablishing law and order and mopping up the swamp.
Currently the left gets to do what it wants with no punishment, and then when the right does the same things and gets punished, a bunch of people with "principles" jump in to say "well they broke the law so it is fitting"
Which ends up with things like the left having riots for an entire summer and mostly getting away with it... while right wingers are killed or still sitting in jail for showing up at the Capitol on Jan 6.
Terthna
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There's a manga about a genius gambler I like called Akagi. In it, he plays a game of chicken where his opponent has every advantage. He wins, not by stopping at the last possible second, but by ensuring he has the greatest possible chance of surviving the crash; something which was unthinkable to his arrogant opponent, who thought he had the game rigged such that he could not lose.
This is the situation we're in, I think. The regressive left have grown so used to everyone else backing off before the crash, that the only way to beat them now is to crash.
The problem is, 'fighting back' on the streets, like what Antifa and BLM have been allowed to do, will not fix anything and just make things worse because it will justify even worse shit after Jan 6th.
Now doing things via official/unofficial worker actions, like with Southwest and the vax mandates, are far, far more effective than trying to 'beat' the Left's brown shirts at their own game.
Terthna
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The regressive left's power fundamentally relies on people's cooperation with the systems they've built. If we simply refuse to participate, everything will come crashing down; after which we will hopefully have a chance to rebuild it all into something that actually serves the interests of the American people.
LindyAF
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I think this is kinda true and kinda cope. Like, on some level, this is looking at a situation where the Right has by and large suffered defeats on almost every issue and going "well yeah... but trust me if we were actually trying it'd be different."
IMO there's also an expectation on our side that in the event of 2ACW or The Collapse or w/e you want to call it, that there's going to be some big event which no work needs to go into, that it's going to universally recognized as such, and that there's going to be plenty of time to form up and get organized after it happens.
Not sure how related this is, but worth noting with the Freikorps is that, on some level, they lost. Yes, they beat the communists in Germany, but how many of the men in the Freikorps do you think, when they imagined the Germany they were fighting for, pictured Weimar? I've been reading The Outlaws by Ernst Von Salomon (which I recommend) and he paints a picture of basically continual betrayal by the government they fought to establish instead of the communists.
Legitimacy flows from actual control. Most people will realize they need to at least get by with and therefore at least vaguely support, the people in control of where they live. The issue isn't street action or self-defense when attacked by Antifa or BLM, the issue is lack of organizational support. That and when actions are picked poorly.
I mean, everything above the immediate interpersonal relies on people's cooperation with systems. But "simply don't" isn't a solution, the solution would be alternative systems which are largely nonexistent.
Lord Sovereign
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Really? Because they seem utterly helpless to stop the MAGA crowd on local levels of government, and if those fall they are fucked in the long run. It's even worse because they are now up against American Nationalists, people who know their game. They aren't facing the lethargic, asleep at the wheel liberal right of yesteryear anymore, and they don't really know what to do with the new guys aside from scream "racism."
Is that the image of an all conquering foe, or one desperately projecting strength when they don't actually have that much?
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
LindyAF
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Are Manchin and Sinema the guys fighting to cut anything in that Infrastructure or spending bill that might actually help the middle class by reducing eligibility for child tax credits for instance, while keeping all the graft?
why do you repeat shill talking points so much? "muh controlled op drumph'' is easily disproven by the sheer amount of hate and vitrol the man gets. Not to mention simple psychology, Trump hates and despises multiple lefty politicians(Obama,Pelosi,etc). The left loves to say how much of an egomaniac the guy is, yet they don't seem to realize how many of his supporters understand this too. We absolutely want someone with Trumps ego going after those sob's. That ego means he just won't stop.
That's a feature not a bug btw, so this common demoralizing slander that i see spouted on numerous sites to the right of marx about Trump rings incredibly hollow. The man has numerous lefty sacred cow corpses behind him at this point so his opposition to the left is unquestionable to me and others.
You know, as suspicious as the controlled op lefty talking ''point'' is, i almost would have written you off as simply a guy with an opinion. However you just had to say that the wall wasn't built, this inexplicably became some sort of shill talking point a couple of years ago despite the numerous pictures and video evidence to the contrary. To even attempt saying he didn't build a wall is a complete denial of objective reality. You could charitably say it wasn't finished completely, or he had to do some wonky accounting to get it funded. But the man kept his goddamn promise come hell or libshit.
These two things combined and you're previous behavior make you stick out like you're head is on fire. Do yourself a favor and go elsewhere. You're not ''talking to power'' or ''deradicalizing'' the evul nazis111!!!111
You're just shitting in the corner while the rest of us hold our nose and are mildly annoyed.
Yes
That's exactly what they're doing.
Given they are some of the only Dems pushing back on the radical bits as well, along pushing back against the Wu Flu shit, they are still miles away better than most of the Left.
They are also more effective at impeding the Far-Left's/Biden's bullshit than most of the Right has been.
So maybe they are not perfect, but they are the only ones seriously keeping the Far-Left in check right now. Maybe that'll change after 2022 and the midterms, maybe the Right will actually retake serious ground in DC and make Manchin and Sinema less critical.
But for now, they are the two votes that are keeping most of the worst of Great Reset/Wu Flu policies from being worse than they are.
Yeah my point about them is just not to trust them or think they're decent because they're still just shitty democrats 90% of the time. Bought out democrats who will cave as soon as enough money is thrown their way.
It's terrifying that these two people are the only thing standing in the way of the Democrats utterly destroying the nation.
Oh, it's not fun having our entire nations future riding on two Dems who are just moderate enough not to toe the party line, that is true.
However, that's the nature of the situation now, so I'm not going to shit on those two for not being perfect (even though I heard rumors Manchin may decide to swtich to Independent soon).
I want more Dems willing to stand up and fight back against the Far-left/Great Reset/Wu Flu crap, or who are willing to leave the party like we did, instead of just relying on the GOP to save us.
DarthOne
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Not content with pocketing $200 million in “Stop the Steal” donations than doing nothing the RNC is this very moment dispatching paid operatives to state GOP “Election Integrity” sessions with the following messages:
- We should federalize the election process.
- There’s nothing RNC can do about 2020, that’s up to the State parties “who are doing everything they can” re 2020. We should only look forward.
- The most important thing is to make phone calls and knock on doors to “convince Republican voters to have faith in the election process” and to believe a fair election is possible in the current process.
- They give the same info for prospective election volunteers they gave in 2012 & 2016 & 2020 as if nothing has changed.
- What to do about tracking mail-in ballots? “There’s nothing we can do.”
- Voting machine problems? Never mentioned. Ignored.
Terthna
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Like I keep saying; controlled opposition.
Doomsought
Well-known member
I am smarter than them:
- Prosecute all election officials implicated in election fraud, seek maximum penalties.
- Direct state republican officials to decertify fraud ridden election results. While no legal results are expected of this, there is no stronger political move that could be made to counter the democrat narrative.
- Push for more preventative vote reform laws on the state level.
- Push for laws giving judges stern guidance on how to handle vote fraud related lawsuits. Create statutory causes of action where judges found none and statutory requirements to nullify voting districts if there is a preponderance of evidence.
- On the federal level, create a criminal negligence law that applies to state vote taking bodies that make excessive errors, with fraud as an amplifying factor but not a requirement for the charges to apply.
You got any links or sources?
Not that I do not believe you, but if the RNC is really doing that...
@AndrewJTalon and @Spartan303 is this sort of thing actually getting pushed at the state GOP level?
Remember in that old scene in the god father where the consilari was booted because he sucked at his job?
"Your not a wartime consilarari."
That's our situation, these guys are used to a gentel kind of politics that hasn't existed for at least 30 years now, they need to be booted and purged and replaced by people who will fight. The time where willful weakness helped is gone.