Trump Investigations Thread

[evilchumlee]

Considering nine point fucking five out of ten times they're feds LARPing to give their masters propaganda? Nope. for example there are probably about ten thousand-ish members of the KKK in the country, five thousand are some flavor of law enforcement.

But you wont believe that.

I absolutely DO believe that... but... probably not for the reasons you're thinking.

Our police tend to skew fairly overwhelmingly right. It absolutely not does not surprise me at all that law enforcement is so heavily represented in a group like that.

Generally yeah, b/c a lot of flag-waving natzis are people cosplaying to incrimnate the right.

Ah yes, the old "if it's bad, it's ACTUALLY the other side doing it" excuse.

All those "left" people who are Pro-Hamas are actually just right wingers trying to make the left look bad!

(See how ridiculous it sounds when it's the other way)

It's ok to admit the extreme fringe crazies are crazy. It's a good thing. The left has the antifa and woke types. The right has the nazi/KKK types. They're all bad. Rather than try to make excuses for them, just... acknowledge they suck and move on.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I absolutely DO believe that... but... probably not for the reasons you're thinking.

Our police tend to skew fairly overwhelmingly right. It absolutely not does not surprise me at all that law enforcement is so heavily represented in a group like that.



Ah yes, the old "if it's bad, it's ACTUALLY the other side doing it" excuse.

All those "left" people who are Pro-Hamas are actually just right wingers trying to make the left look bad!

(See how ridiculous it sounds when it's the other way)

It's ok to admit the extreme fringe crazies are crazy. It's a good thing. The left has the antifa and woke types. The right has the nazi/KKK types. They're all bad. Rather than try to make excuses for them, just... acknowledge they suck and move on.

Oh, I never said we didn't have any nazis that are Right. They definitely are, and I shit on them every chance I get.
It's also a proven fact that the Left has staged photo-sessions with people cosplaying as nazis at Rightwing gatherings.

 

[bintananth]

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what an incredibly uncharitable way to frame that. Guy wants to deal with the issue of anchor babies. he acknowledges that it would need an amendment. it wouldn't take away citizenship from anyone born before that change occurred. the foreigners thing is him wanting to deport illegals. yes. yes you should deport illegal migrants. phrasing it they way you are is implying that it would work together to banish all the POC from America.

I was being charitable. His actual position? "I'm just a useful idiot" assuming he's smart enough to fool the real Fools and their money

 

[The One Char]

I absolutely DO believe that... but... probably not for the reasons you're thinking.

Our police tend to skew fairly overwhelmingly right. It absolutely not does not surprise me at all that law enforcement is so heavily represented in a group like that.



Ah yes, the old "if it's bad, it's ACTUALLY the other side doing it" excuse.

All those "left" people who are Pro-Hamas are actually just right wingers trying to make the left look bad!

(See how ridiculous it sounds when it's the other way)

It's ok to admit the extreme fringe crazies are crazy. It's a good thing. The left has the antifa and woke types. The right has the nazi/KKK types. They're all bad. Rather than try to make excuses for them, just... acknowledge they suck and move on.

Fucking called it.

 

[evilchumlee]

Oh, I never said we didn't have any nazis that are Right. They definitely are, and I shit on them every chance I get.
It's also a proven fact that the Left has staged photo-sessions with people cosplaying as nazis at Rightwing gatherings.

Sure, it's happened. To try to claim that most of them are this is just flat out wrong.

These people exist. Trying to make excuses for them is terrible.

Acknowledging and shitting on the extreme crazies on every side is a good thing.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

You're right,

It ain't about me. It's about my kids. They wanted Culver Academy. Go look that up. I can assure you that tuition for that school ain't cheap.

You're the one who is pathetic. You drank the cool-aid. I write cheques.

That's cute but you're still a broke ass larper who who trainwrecks every thread to fellate himself...

Generally yeah, b/c a lot of flag-waving natzis are people cosplaying to incrimnate the right.

Also most modern day actual Nazis aren't white.

They're either Peruvian immigrants, Mexican or African.

Go onto any website where genuine Fascist and Nazis hang out and I promise you most of them are my fellow Latinos.

And that's without getting into the Mediterranean and Celtic Supremacy movements who hold that Nordic peoples are no better than "the blacks" and are responsible for all the worlds ills where the Celts, Greeks, Spanish, North Africans and Italians are the only true whites


Tldr; you have to be mentally challenged to believe white supremacy is a threat in modern America. Most of the extreme right is a rainbow coalition of immigrants who simply want leftwing people disenfranchised and America to be an oligarchy where only 15% of the population is allowed to vote.

The race shit is incidental to the third world tyranny they wanna import.

They just wanna hurt the people they think caused all their problems and blocked off their economic upward mobility.

Its all insane but race has little and less to do with it.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I can promise you, I know more mestizos who can quote Mein Kampf from memory than I know Wasps who can do the same 🤣 hell South America's only truly non white country was unambiguously and openly Neonazi for the latter half of the twentieth century 🤣

Welcome to the new world you created when you said diversity is your strength.

You imported the right wing of the world and it is very much a spectrum thing where Fascist tendencies grow stronger the more you move away from pale skin and the tyranny is ideological and thought based more than race.

"Are you a democrat?" "Ah bueno entonces ni vos o sus hijos o nietos merece derechos! Jodete!"

And so on and so forth.

 

[S'task]

Am I wrong though?

Are the swastika-flag waving people that are a bit too common nowadays voting Democrat?

It's by no means all conservatives. I'm talking about the extremes. Are you telling me that our Neo-Nazi's, skinheads, Ku Klux Klan, etc. types are not voting Republican?

Firstly, yes. You should look into how frequently Hamas and the Palestinians wave around the Nazi swastika. Then go look at the demographics of the typical "pro-Palestinian" rally in the US. Those folks ain't voting Republican.

Secondly, you know the reason for so much suspicion of there being many neo-nazis on the right? Because you have groups outright admitting they've performed false flags to slander Republicans. Further if you actually read any of the mainstream right wing media, you'd know that the alt-right and neo-nazis are constantly criticized and condemned. Here's just a few examples from a populist/conservative right wing site. For a more establishment conservative take, here's a couple of National Review articles condemning the alt-right. Meanwhile I go look for articles condemning Antifa on, say, Salon.com and instead get pages and pages about... the right, and not a single article even REPORTING on them, to say nothing of condemning them. A search on The Nation reveals a similar result, no articles condemning antifa in the first set of search results. Looking at Daily Kos, a populist left website, again reveals... nothing regarding antifa not reporting on them OR condemning them. Just to be exhaustive, I looked at Mother Jones too and came up with the same results, articles talking about the right, but none condemning Antifa.

So yeah, this might be a case where you need to reevaluate which side better gatekeeps their extreme flank. I can find numerous more articles from right wing sites condemning neo-nazis and the alt-right if you want but meanwhile some of the biggest progressive websites are completely SILENT on antifa and the violent activities of the far left.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

It should also be pointed out.

During the summer of love, Antifa and BLM were responsible for 25,000 sexual assaults and 4,000 homicides and tens of billions in property damage but the current vice President called that the language of the oppressed.

The democratic party endorses mass murder and arson.

The GOP loses gracefully and screws over its base by compromising with inhuman monsters.

They are not the same.

 

[evilchumlee]

So yeah, this might be a case where you need to reevaluate which side better gatekeeps their extreme flank. I can find numerous more articles from right wing sites condemning neo-nazis and the alt-right if you want but meanwhile some of the biggest progressive websites are completely SILENT on antifa and the violent activities of the far left.

I wasn't making any observations on well each side gatekeeps their extremes, I was observing that I find the left extreme to be... slightly less bad than the right extreme.

I think both feed way too much into their extreme arms. That's my biggest issue with all politics now. I'm a bit more critical of the right mostly because of JUST how bad their extreme is, and despite "numerous articles" condemning that kind of behavior, when it comes to actually putting up political candidates, the right feeds further into their more extremist side (not THAT extreme) while the left tends to focus more on moderates (who, from a right perspective would appear as super left, I get it.)

Moderate Republicans at this point are seen as "RINO's". Moderate Democrats get into office.

The GOP loses gracefully and screws over its base by compromising with inhuman monsters.

Loses gracefully? You can actually say that with a straight face after 2020?

 

[The One Char]

Firstly, yes. You should look into how frequently Hamas and the Palestinians wave around the Nazi swastika. Then go look at the demographics of the typical "pro-Palestinian" rally in the US. Those folks ain't voting Republican.

Secondly, you know the reason for so much suspicion of there being many neo-nazis on the right? Because you have groups outright admitting they've performed false flags to slander Republicans. Further if you actually read any of the mainstream right wing media, you'd know that the alt-right and neo-nazis are constantly criticized and condemned. Here's just a few examples from a populist/conservative right wing site. For a more establishment conservative take, here's a couple of National Review articles condemning the alt-right. Meanwhile I go look for articles condemning Antifa on, say, Salon.com and instead get pages and pages about... the right, and not a single article even REPORTING on them, to say nothing of condemning them. A search on The Nation reveals a similar result, no articles condemning antifa in the first set of search results. Looking at Daily Kos, a populist left website, again reveals... nothing regarding antifa not reporting on them OR condemning them. Just to be exhaustive, I looked at Mother Jones too and came up with the same results, articles talking about the right, but none condemning Antifa.

So yeah, this might be a case where you need to reevaluate which side better gatekeeps their extreme flank. I can find numerous more articles from right wing sites condemning neo-nazis and the alt-right if you want but meanwhile some of the biggest progressive websites are completely SILENT on antifa and the violent activities of the far left.

And as you can see, he ignored everything you wrote.

 

[Cherico]

It should also be pointed out.

During the summer of love, Antifa and BLM were responsible for 25,000 sexual assaults and 4,000 homicides and tens of billions in property damage but the current vice President called that the language of the oppressed.

The democratic party endorses mass murder and arson.

The GOP loses gracefully and screws over its base by compromising with inhuman monsters.

They are not the same.

This is why the Latinos are going to take over the GOP and the rednecks will thank them for doing so.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

This is why the Latinos are going to take over the GOP and the rednecks will thank them for doing so.

Most of us Harbor hatred in our hearts for leftist thought.

Hatred not polite disagreement.

 

[bintananth]

They're either Peruvian immigrants, Mexican or African.

... snipping more stupid bullshit ...

My wife is black and the daughter of slaves. Blue eyes and blonde hair are welcome in my home. You better have a good excuse when you try to dismiss Lucy and Lucille because my daughters want an education my parents can not afford.

I and my older siblings went to Washington University in St. Louis. Good luck with that tuition bill because buying a mansion on Wydown Blvd. is what my parents did to avoid the bill for "room and board".

 

[Vyor]

My wife is black and the daughter of slaves. Blue eyes and blonde hair are welcome in my home. You better have a good excuse when you try to dismiss Lucy and Lucille because my daughters want an education my parents can not afford.

I and my older siblings went to Washington University in St. Louis. Good luck with that tuition bill because buying a mansion on Wydown Blvd. is what my parents did to avoid the bill for "room and board".

I don't think any of the people mentioned here exist.

 

[Captain X]

I ain't white. No one I'm related to is. Some parts of the GOP are saying that non-whites aren't American and fostering the idea that they deserve death.

I'm fairly certain that @Captain X is native-American and equally opposed to the extermination of non-whites

Which parts? Who specifically? Bring the receipts.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

My wife is black and the daughter of slaves. Blue eyes and blonde hair are welcome in my home. You better have a good excuse when you try to dismiss Lucy and Lucille because my daughters want an education my parents can not afford.

I and my older siblings went to Washington University in St. Louis. Good luck with that tuition bill because buying a mansion on Wydown Blvd. is what my parents did to avoid the bill for "room and board".

First of all, Clayton is full nouveau riche and not the cool kind "built a small business from the ground up"kind but the "profit off medicare fraud medical supply company is totally not an organized crime front" kind, second most of them are living off credit and thirdly most of them are on meth.

Try again.

Oh and, no one gives a fuck about your fake ass family larper-kun.

Which parts? Who specifically? Bring the receipts.

Apparently a bunch of us immigrants and the Native Americans and Black Americans who make up the protectionist wing of the New Right wanting border hoppers to fuck off counts as white supremacy.

We the fourth reich now chief!

Never mind that fucking protectionism itself is an old-school center-left ideology that found its way to the American right after Teddy Roosevelt went "Hey, in the hands of people who aren't idiots, this might actually work" and adopted it

 

[bintananth]

Which parts? Who specifically? Bring the receipts.

I do recall that you've mentioned that you are a native American who lives in the South.

Somewhere in NW Georgia or SE Tennessee between Atlanta,GA and Chattanooga,TN if IIRC.

 

[bintananth]

First of all, Clayton is full nouveau riche and not the cool kind "built a small business from the ground up"kind but the "profit off medicare fraud medical supply company is totally not an organized crime front" kind, second most of them are living off credit and thirdly most of them are on meth.

Try again.

Oh, I see you looked something up online.

If you can buy one of the mansions on Wydown Blvd in Clayton, MO ... you aren't nouveau riche.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

If you can buy one of the mansions on Wydown Blvd in Clayton, MO ... you aren't nouveau riche.

you're full of shiiitt

Call me when a home in that area is sold for Northward of 225,000,000 and I'll be impressed by your claims of Rockefeller tier legacy nonsense.

Oh, I see you looked something up online.