Breaking News Trump Impeachment 2: Electric Boogaloo

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If they do this, I say we run with the precedent set and impeach all those Democrats who were cheer-leading the violence this spring and summer.
Thats how the law SHOULD work.

We should have equality under the law. You shouldn't be pursued or let off the hook because of the letter by your name.

But it doesn't work like that. With these corrupt loons in charge, they'll never have to answer to anything.
 

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Trump seemed to hire the worst lawyer, so that's a lot of help. \sarcasm

Here's Crowder ripping him a new one:
 

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I have to say that “January exemption” that Rankin put out sound a compelling initially, but really doesn’t hold up when you actually think about. If POTUS commits a crime in his last days in office, and is out of office before he can be impeached, the remedy isn’t impeachment after the fact, it is to charge him with a crime like any other private citizen.
 

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Yeah this is pure undeluted spite, its also a first Grachi brother situation where all your doing is pissing people off and creating a martyr.

Looking at history the democrats/Optimates will go mad with power and cancell people 300 of the orginal Grachi's followers were killed I'd be very suprised if Antifa/BLM havent killed an equivelent number of people. So dispite all of their efforts smart money is in 10 or so years we get another populist and a stronger and more pissed off populist movement.

This has all happened before in numerous countries and cultures and as some one who studied history its depressing how little people learn from it.

Unless they pull Lenin/Stalin/Hitler/Mao/Polpot on USA
Then they would be no mad people,becouse survivors would be happy to have one meal per day.Problem for democrats - it means also purges of oligarchs.So, i do not think they would risk that.
 

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The Votes to impeach just aren't there. And the fact that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court isn't conducting this is pretty damning in and of itself. But the Democrats aren't waiting for the outcome of this impeachment to play out. They're already playing another card.

 

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Friendly Reminder: I get were your coming from with this statement, but please be careful, our enemies are already out to get us we don't need to accidentally shoot ourselves in the foot as well.
The Votes to impeach just aren't there. And the fact that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court isn't conducting this is pretty damning in and of itself. But the Democrats aren't waiting for the outcome of this impeachment to play out. They're already playing another card.


This is dangerous for Democrats. There are enough pissed off Trump Supporters. Some of them Former Green Berets and Navy Seals who might just go fuck it and do something unfortunate to some of those Democrats. I mean in there are a lot of really really pissed people out there that know how to kill.
 

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This is dangerous for Democrats. There are enough pissed off Trump Supporters. Some of them Former Green Berets and Navy Seals who might just go fuck it and do something unfortunate to some of those Democrats. I mean in there are a lot of really really pissed people out there that know how to kill.
But we also have those democrats that are also these same ex military. Like that dem congresscritter who was a Ranger.
 

Terthna

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Honestly, if Trump loses, he deserves it for that lawyer.
He may have been the only lawyer he could get; considering how rigged the system is, the whole thing is probably a show trial with the result already decided. Considering that, most lawyers probably just don't want to commit career suicide in defending such an obvious pariah, especially when there's no chance of winning.
 
Looking at history.....

If the second populist leader fails we get even more repression which just pisses off more people as the optimates/democrats pretty much break the rules and use the consitution as toylet paper. At this point people stop giving a fuck about what the media says and Optimate violence is met with Populares violence, you politics of vengence.

Next comes civil war.

and its a blood soaked mess, if the populares canadate wins it you have a 10% chance of turning the ship around and a 90% chance that in trying to fix the mess it only ensures the end of the republic. If the optimates canadate wins you get a 100% chance that the republic dies.

This leads of course to more civil war because you've just destroyed a host of norms and havent solved the underlining issues.

Then you get your transition tyrant.

If your lucky you get a ceasar who tries to be gentle and gets murdered because he didn't kill all the back stabbers. If your not lucky you get some one akin to the first emperor of china For us said person would be like the unholy mixture of hitler and Stalin. After he dies the regieme is so unpopular that it has no legitimacy so more civil war.

This continues until the most regressive traditionalist takes power and looks back around 300 years into the past and establishes a new regieme built upon tradition.

For the west we got ceasar who was followed by agustus, rome got lucky.

For China they got the Qin who were replaced by the Han.

Looking at the dates this is going to be roughly and 80 process where shit will suck.


my biggest fear: who's to say people who do remember history won't get fed up with hummanity and decide that the only point in life is to "Get the high score." and you end up with essentially an army of jokers? one agent of choas is easy enough to deal with but an army of them can scortch the earth if people aren't careful.
 

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He may have been the only lawyer he could get; considering how rigged the system is, the whole thing is probably a show trial with the result already decided. Considering that, most lawyers probably just don't want to commit career suicide in defending such an obvious pariah, especially when there's no chance of winning.
No, there's plenty of decent republican lawyers. Trump has had a shitty taste in lawyers since Giuliani, followed by the Kraken crazies, then this. You don't seem to see any flaws in Trump, just as others only see flaws in him. Both are bad.
 

Terthna

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No, there's plenty of decent republican lawyers. Trump has had a shitty taste in lawyers since Giuliani, followed by the Kraken crazies, then this. You don't seem to see any flaws in Trump, just as others only see flaws in him. Both are bad.
Did you miss all my criticisms of him? Particularly his seeming inability to pick the right people for the job? That probably also plays a part here as well; but even the decent republican lawyers likely understand that their own party is trying to destroy Trump right now, so being seen helping him might be detrimental to their careers.
 

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Did you miss all my criticisms of him? Particularly his seeming inability to pick the right people for the job? That probably also plays a part here as well; but even the decent republican lawyers likely understand that their own party is trying to destroy Trump right now, so being seen helping him might be detrimental to their careers.
No, there are good pro-trump lawyers even. If this is what he choose to represent him, he deserves everything he get.
 

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Did you miss all my criticisms of him? Particularly his seeming inability to pick the right people for the job? That probably also plays a part here as well; but even the decent republican lawyers likely understand that their own party is trying to destroy Trump right now, so being seen helping him might be detrimental to their careers.


His track record on picking the right people is hit or miss, but to be fair that's every President we've ever had. Trump had a higher turnaround though as he didn't tolerate for long. But in Washington finding the right people is damn hard. Trump lucked out in Pompeo and Carson. Spicer wasn't cutting it so he got replaced by Sara Sanders. She absolutely killed it in that job but left to pursue her career. Then we got Kaylieh McEnany who absolutely killed it in the job and even may have outdone Sanders. There was also Kellyanne Conway who is the first woman chief of staff to get a President elected.

But Trump also has major flops too. Like Scaramouchi, Chris Christi and Jeff Sessions. While others are more nuanced.
 

Vaermina

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Yikes... The end of today's hearing was rough, one of the witnesses directly called them liar's and they were forced to withdraw stuff they were claiming was evidence.
 

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