United States Trump 2nd Term - Planning and Beyond

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So basically what you're saying is you want Trump to be a partisan footnote in the history books and the far-left lives rent-free in your head. Good to know.
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Listen Indy, we all know that you’re just content farming this place for your butt buddies on FrozenInCarbonite.

Your trolling game is weak, you’re not particularly clever, and Rufus is still a moron. Now fuck off and stop baiting the site for butt pats from your lib life partners.
 
So basically what you're saying is you want Trump to be a partisan footnote in the history books and the far-left lives rent-free in your head. Good to know.
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The point is that MAGA is not partisan, it's a coalition of the Ancaps, the religious right, the 10-40 years behind ex-Democrats (Trump is one of these), the classical liberals, the American Traditionalists, barely-political Rustbelters, and more. The "coalition of the margins" the far-left has formed briefly seized cultural hegemony by taking over institutions, only to nearly instantly provoke a coalition of what was marginal to it and the preceding allied Globohomo Uniparty.
 
The point is that MAGA is not partisan, it's a coalition of the Ancaps, the religious right, the 10-40 years behind ex-Democrats (Trump is one of these), the classical liberals, the American Traditionalists, barely-political Rustbelters, and more. The "coalition of the margins" the far-left has formed briefly seized cultural hegemony by taking over institutions, only to nearly instantly provoke a coalition of what was marginal to it and the preceding allied Globohomo Uniparty.
I'm not speaking about the Trump coalition writ large, that is not the same as MAGA. I've a lot of good friends and family that voted for Trump this election. They're fine. I'm talking about the disturbing undercurrent of Trump cultists that believe he's the second coming or some shit. Those people are just as insane as the people who think Trump is the antichrist imo. (If any Republican politician was the antichrist it would be Reagan imo lmao)
 
Listen Indy, we all know that you’re just content farming this place for your butt buddies on FrozenInCarbonite.

Your trolling game is weak, you’re not particularly clever, and Rufus is still a moron. Now fuck off and stop baiting the site for butt pats from your lib life partners.
I didn't know that; but in retrospect, it makes perfect sense. I mean, I knew he was a troll, but how'd you figure out his connection to Horton's tiny cesspool of a forum?
 
They're fine. I'm talking about the disturbing undercurrent of Trump cultists that believe he's the second coming or some shit. Those people are just as insane as the people who think Trump is the antichrist imo. (If any Republican politician was the antichrist it would be Reagan imo lmao)
That's not what MAGA is...like at all. I'm sure there are a small minority of people w/in MAGA that fit that description, but 99.9% of the rest of Trump's supporters look at them like they're wierdos, and we're making sure there's always an adult in the room with them.
 
Redstate - FBI Employees Terrified of Being Fired When Trump Arrives: He's 'Going to Smash the Place to Pieces'

They should be, and he damn well should. The 'intelligence community' and 'legal community' have so, so fucking much to answer for from these last 8 years: the Russia hoax, the endless lawfare and destruction of political norms, relentless persecution of everyone from the J6ers to lawyers offering to represent Trump in the legal disputes over the 2020 election, throwing people like Douglas Mackey in prison or outright murdering them in break-of-dawn raids for making memes, launching raids against pro-life activists and terrorizing their families with such cruelty that their wives have miscarriages, jailing grannies for praying in the wrong place, their possible to probable involvement in the assassination attempts against him as well as the actual assassination of RFK Jr.'s kin, and much more. The J6 people shouldn't just be pardoned and the DOJ forced to give them as much money as they ask for in settlements, every fedboi who put them in cuffs and every informant who snitched on their friends & family should take their place. Or be thrown off Mount Rushmore in imitation of the ancient Roman custom for disposing of traitors, that'd be cool too.

For that matter the military clearly is in need of a deep cleaning too. Milley should be looking at a death sentence or at best life imprisonment for going behind Trump's back to talk nukes with the Chinese, that's textbook treason. The same goes for the generals who explicitly refused to obey orders to pull out of Syria and lied about it until Biden got in. Every political general installed by Clinton, Obama and Biden needs to be thrown out on their asses and the thousands of soldiers they trained to gun down conservatives, Catholics, pro-lifers, etc. similarly drummed out or reassigned to janitorial duty under a volcano until their contracts expire, every single one of those is a dagger pointed at the Republic and innocent Americans. A complete shutdown of programs tying aid (civil or military alike) to pushing globohomo shit abroad is also an obvious must. Make the American military actually American again, and not merely the big bully club of globalist puppetmasters.

You kidding or trolling? Orange Man just got a mandate from an electorate that's clearly fed all the fucking way up with the left. Fuck compromising with the left lmao, he should be creating his own Vlad Tepes-esque impaled forest of Antifa around DC and the voters will cheer him on, if they didn't want that then Nikki Haley would've won more than just Vermont in the primaries and Kamala Harris would be president-elect today. The GOP establishment and the neocons ARE the same thing and both ate shit just now precisely because so many have decided those you slander as 'MAGA cultists' were right all along, the careers of people like Liz Cheney and Rick Wilson just crashed and burned in the most epic way imaginable short of Trump personally running them over on the back of a mammoth.

It's only if Trump cucks to the leftoid shitbags and the neocon RINO wing that he would go down as one of the 'worst presidents of all time' for squandering such a golden mandate. No, this is neither the time nor the place to show any mercy or offer any compromise to those who have already shown themselves to be among the most merciless and uncompromising tyrants of the modern age these past years, and who by & large don't even have the grace to shut up & stop wishing sadistic deaths on right-wingers in defeat. Inversely if he instead crushes said tyrants into the dust and gives them the most humbling assfucking in history since Dong Zhuo purged the eunuchs, and if he can achieve the core priorities of resolving the immigration crisis + castrating the 'intelligence community'/deep state (and more generally taking a Milei-esque buzzsaw to the administrative state) + shoring up election integrity (his new legal team has done a good job of fighting Democrat shadiness this campaign already) then he'll truly deserve his own place on Mt. Rushmore.
Eh, one can't really do that to the military unless you poll every single service member (just because they joined after Biden for in office doesn't mean they are tools, met plenty of conservative ones who joined after 2020)
You just have to naturally let them get out.
Officers are a lot easier but even then.
Military just often revolves around the president and economy
Anyone else have any other predictions or hopes for future Cabinets level positions? Salatin might shake things up in Agriculture.

Unlike most of MAGA I don't really have any issue with Mike Pompeo. He's very establishment but seemed loyal to Trump even through J6 and helped enable Trumps Foreign Policy successes in his first term. But I doubt Pompeo will be back since MAGA commentators and hangers on (the rumored "Clown Car" as Trump's Chief of Staff Susan Wiles reportedly calls it) don't want him there.

The wildest realistic choice for State would be Tulsi Gabbard of course.
 
Eh, one can't really do that to the military unless you poll every single service member (just because they joined after Biden for in office doesn't mean they are tools, met plenty of conservative ones who joined after 2020)
You just have to naturally let them get out.
Officers are a lot easier but even then.
Military just often revolves around the president and economy


Well maybe that's what should be done then. Anything to get the rot out of the military - political power ultimately flows from the barrel of a gun, as a certain mass murdering tyrant once said, and the last thing Trump (or America as a whole) needs is a left-wing military coup by Milley types once the media gives them enough cover to pretend that they're doing it to save the Constitution instead of destroying it. The fact that this possibility has a non-zero chance of happening at all, and arguably did already happen in some ways in 2020-21, is a sad indictment of the absolute state of the US Armed Forces as of 2024 AD.

Also ew, Pompeo coming back would be bad. He's a neocon and this election represents their death knell, not a single one of that brood of vipers should be allowed to slither back into any position of importance. Not even the ones that didn't blatantly betray Trump, the Republican Party and conservatives in general like the loathsome Cheney clan and all those other Bush-era figures who endorsed Harris did.

Anyone else have any other predictions or hopes for future Cabinets level positions? Salatin might shake things up in Agriculture.

Unlike most of MAGA I don't really have any issue with Mike Pompeo. He's very establishment but seemed loyal to Trump even through J6 and helped enable Trumps Foreign Policy successes in his first term. But I doubt Pompeo will be back since MAGA commentators and hangers on (the rumored "Clown Car" as Trump's Chief of Staff Susan Wiles reportedly calls it) don't want him there.

The wildest realistic choice for State would be Tulsi Gabbard of course.

screw Pompeo. Flynn's a better choice.

Some ideas...

I'd like to see Flynn heading Defense or as Director of National Intelligence. Let him lead the charge in dismantling the deep state's cloak, dagger and/or sword-tentacles, especially since he also has personal grudges in those directions.

Ric Grenell might be an interesting pick for State instead. Staunch Trump loyalist and proven fighter in the diplomatic sphere.

Lighthizer should come back to head Treasury or Commerce. They're gonna need him for Trump's hardline trade policies and inevitable economic clashes with China.

If Flynn goes into the DNI slot, Mike Waltz might make a decent choice for Defense instead. Florida Congressman, veteran and big China hawk.

A real hardliner will be needed to demolish the Department of Education and cripple Randi Weingarten's national teachers' union as much as possible in order to ensure as few kids get brainwashed into leftard footsoldiers in the future - maybe someone like Moms for Liberty leader Tiffany Justice, or that Oklahoman superintendent Ryan Walters. Or if a more diplomatic face is needed to navigate Senate confirmation, maybe Glenn Youngkin since educational issues were key to him winning his race against Terry McAuliffe, he can't run for reelection as Governor of Virginia anyway.

Deportation king Tom Homan for Homeland Security.

And of course, RFK Jr. (or if he can't get through the Senate, then an alternative of his choosing) for HHS. Ben Carson can have his old job helming HUD back, I don't think he's done anything wrong in that capacity before.
 
I wouldn't want Flynn at any high post tbh. He exhibits pretty poor judgment. Just begging for yet another scandal to derail and distract things. It might be hard to find serious competent people who want to enable Trump's vision, but they've had four more years to find and prepare these people.

Why do you think RFK Jr. will have a problem getting through confirmation in a Republican controlled Senate?

All of Trump's coolest possible appointments will have trouble getting through the confirmation process.
 
Why do you think RFK Jr. will have a problem getting through confirmation in a Republican controlled Senate?
He was a Democrat until last year and is easy for the media to paint as a kook on account of his antivax beliefs. Unfortunately the former might well matter to partisan Republicans, and the latter remains an issue due to the Republican majority in the Senate not being as big as it could have been (though it should be less of one if Kari Lake can still pull off the W in Arizona). Would've been easier to get him and people like Tiffany Justice through if it were a 55-45 or 56-44 majority and not a 53-47 one, if Lake doesn't make it then one defector + the three 'moderate' squishes (Romney, Murkowski, Collins) would sink him.
 
I wouldn't want Flynn at any high post tbh. He exhibits pretty poor judgment. Just begging for yet another scandal to derail and distract things. It might be hard to find serious competent people who want to enable Trump's vision, but they've had four more years to find and prepare these people.



All of Trump's coolest possible appointments will have trouble getting through the confirmation process.
Being fair, Trump just delivered them majority in almost every major branch of government. I'd need to check but the house IIRC was either slim or not entirely confirmed yet, but still.

That+election momentum and his general cult of personality seem likely to allow him to get through all but the most obscure and memeworthy of picks, especially since leveraging that kind of star power and connections with prominent "pop culture" political personalities was definitely a key contributor to his outreach and success in getting elected and helping tie together his coalition. The grab bag of proven politicos, technocrats, dudebros, and the like with good outreach and optics was a powerful tool for the Republicans this year, particularly since it helped them break through the left's usual dominance of mass news media.

While I doubt we'll get many of the more off the wall choices a lot of the high recognition choices for appointments from the cabinet on down seem liable to have a fair chance of happening just because capitalizing on that is pretty logical I think.

Further, a lot of the outsider choices thrown around make a lot of sense as a continuation of Trump's own core effectiveness, that being that he just came in like a bulldozer and to be blunt, facefucked a lot of the taboo, soft power internal political shit going on to pieces. Even if you don't agree that's how that really played out, and I understand and mostly would agree it's not anywhere near that simple, it's very much part of his "mythology" and gave a shitload of old guard bureaucrats and excuse to cut ties and abandon former power structures which only enhanced the mystique of it all because Trump became the man who allowed politicians to at least superficially seem to become honest. Playing to it helps enhance things and enables way more radical restucturing internally either because the new blood actually does make that much of a change or they allow an opportunity for parts of the old guard to go loud and shake things up with a political figleaf.

Or, to say it more briefly, he's liable to have a chunk of the establishment smiling and nodding their heads for a few months into office at the absolute least to anything but the most outrageous picks for a number of reasons so I personally wouldn't bet on anyone telling him no short of him deciding to appoint Ronald McDonald the head of the ATF for a fair while.
 
Done.

Done (by themselves).

And done.

Future is pretty bright for our disrespectable bipartisan (this is what the refrance).
Honestly an Iranian bonfire to end all Iranian bonfires is tempting but not worth the hassle.

Does anyone know how soon we will probably be seeing different bits of legislation pushed through by the new administration?
I do not mean the planned executive orders, pardons, or the likely day one emergency economic powers for those tarrifs.
 
John Adams did it 200 years ago.

J.D. Vance becomes Senate Majority Leader AND the deciding vote in the Senate as Vice President.

What do y'all think of that?
 
Well maybe that's what should be done then. Anything to get the rot out of the military - political power ultimately flows from the barrel of a gun, as a certain mass murdering tyrant once said, and the last thing Trump (or America as a whole) needs is a left-wing military coup by Milley types once the media gives them enough cover to pretend that they're doing it to save the Constitution instead of destroying it. The fact that this possibility has a non-zero chance of happening at all, and arguably did already happen in some ways in 2020-21, is a sad indictment of the absolute state of the US Armed Forces as of 2024 AD.

Also ew, Pompeo coming back would be bad. He's a neocon and this election represents their death knell, not a single one of that brood of vipers should be allowed to slither back into any position of importance. Not even the ones that didn't blatantly betray Trump, the Republican Party and conservatives in general like the loathsome Cheney clan and all those other Bush-era figures who endorsed Harris did.





Some ideas...

I'd like to see Flynn heading Defense or as Director of National Intelligence. Let him lead the charge in dismantling the deep state's cloak, dagger and/or sword-tentacles, especially since he also has personal grudges in those directions.

Ric Grenell might be an interesting pick for State instead. Staunch Trump loyalist and proven fighter in the diplomatic sphere.

Lighthizer should come back to head Treasury or Commerce. They're gonna need him for Trump's hardline trade policies and inevitable economic clashes with China.

If Flynn goes into the DNI slot, Mike Waltz might make a decent choice for Defense instead. Florida Congressman, veteran and big China hawk.

A real hardliner will be needed to demolish the Department of Education and cripple Randi Weingarten's national teachers' union as much as possible in order to ensure as few kids get brainwashed into leftard footsoldiers in the future - maybe someone like Moms for Liberty leader Tiffany Justice, or that Oklahoman superintendent Ryan Walters. Or if a more diplomatic face is needed to navigate Senate confirmation, maybe Glenn Youngkin since educational issues were key to him winning his race against Terry McAuliffe, he can't run for reelection as Governor of Virginia anyway.

Deportation king Tom Homan for Homeland Security.

And of course, RFK Jr. (or if he can't get through the Senate, then an alternative of his choosing) for HHS. Ben Carson can have his old job helming HUD back, I don't think he's done anything wrong in that capacity before.
Pompeo stayed with Trump even through the Jan 6th and everything.
He was also a huge part of trumps diplomacy in ME

Flynn would be better in DNI or Defense, thiugh DNI would be better just due to the fact it's what he knows.

As for the military stuff, Milley is already out of it all, and Trump is most likely going to fire the entire Joint chiefs, and thier enlisted leaders.
He may gut a large majority of the generals.

Thw only issue is how to understand the generals that are actively trying to train us to win wars vs those thay focus on political stuff
 

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