in the real world that means you have poor character, if you cant admit you fucked up then you cant improve.
I think I respect you just a little bit more.
Transgender Athletes in Sports
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in the real world that means you have poor character, if you cant admit you fucked up then you cant improve.
I think I respect you just a little bit more.
KilroywasNOTHere
"BEEP!"
What have I been saying:
Galatians 5:19-21 ESV
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these.
Modern women are general combative and masculine, and unfortunately this often goes in hand with but is not mutually exclusive to them not admitting they're wrong when they're proven wrong.
"Accountability is a woman's kryptonite" is a saying for a reason.
Ixian
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Its mental ill men, who are once again being abused because of feminism.
Specifically because feminism has been pushing this trans ideological bs and given them a foothold in normal society.
You can't have good character and be a feminist or any sort of Marxist the two are mutually exclusive
Female Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitors dropped out of a North American Grappling Association (NAGA) tournament after being told they would be forced to compete against transitioning males.
As a result, one of the transgender Men, Corissa Griffith, took home four gold medals in a tournament on October 21st. In some cases, due to the withdrawal of actual Women competitors, there were more transgendered Men grappling in some tournaments then actual biological females. In one case two tranny Men, Corissa Griffith and Cordelia Gregory, who are apparently friends, won gold and silver in a tournament of which they were the only participants and celebrated their win on Instagram.
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What makes this truly peculiar is that NAGA has a reasonably sane policy which is as follows:
"NAGA does not require biological women to compete against transgender women. Instead, we give the choice to the biological women and if they decline, they compete in a division only with other biological women. For those who chose not to compete with the transgender female, we will inquire if they have an interest in entering a separate division which includes the transgender female. This additional division will be offered at no cost to those competitors. However, if individuals decline this opportunity, the transgender female will be directed to compete with the males in their respective weight and skill level category."
This policy is apparently not enforced as the female participants were not informed in time to make the tournament adjustments, the transgendered males were not asked to compete with other males and the female competitors who self excluded themselves had their complaints ignored apparently by the NAGA officials.
As a result, one of the transgender Men, Corissa Griffith, took home four gold medals in a tournament on October 21st. In some cases, due to the withdrawal of actual Women competitors, there were more transgendered Men grappling in some tournaments then actual biological females. In one case two tranny Men, Corissa Griffith and Cordelia Gregory, who are apparently friends, won gold and silver in a tournament of which they were the only participants and celebrated their win on Instagram.
EXCLUSIVE: Women Abandon Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Tournament After Being Forced To Fight Males - Reduxx
Female martial artists have come forward to reveal that male athletes claiming to be transgender have completely overtaken the women’s categories of a major grappling association, leaving them fearing for their safety in many instances. One of the men, Corissa Griffith, took home four gold...
reduxx.info
What makes this truly peculiar is that NAGA has a reasonably sane policy which is as follows:
"NAGA does not require biological women to compete against transgender women. Instead, we give the choice to the biological women and if they decline, they compete in a division only with other biological women. For those who chose not to compete with the transgender female, we will inquire if they have an interest in entering a separate division which includes the transgender female. This additional division will be offered at no cost to those competitors. However, if individuals decline this opportunity, the transgender female will be directed to compete with the males in their respective weight and skill level category."
This policy is apparently not enforced as the female participants were not informed in time to make the tournament adjustments, the transgendered males were not asked to compete with other males and the female competitors who self excluded themselves had their complaints ignored apparently by the NAGA officials.
I thought it was the female league, not the "dudes-in-dresses-and-wigs" league? sigh This insanity needs to stop.Female Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitors dropped out of a North American Grappling Association (NAGA) tournament after being told they would be forced to compete against transitioning males.
As a result, one of the transgender Men, Corissa Griffith, took home four gold medals in a tournament on October 21st. In some cases, due to the withdrawal of actual Women competitors, there were more transgendered Men grappling in some tournaments then actual biological females. In one case two tranny Men, Corissa Griffith and Cordelia Gregory, who are apparently friends, won gold and silver in a tournament of which they were the only participants and celebrated their win on Instagram.
EXCLUSIVE: Women Abandon Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Tournament After Being Forced To Fight Males - Reduxx
Female martial artists have come forward to reveal that male athletes claiming to be transgender have completely overtaken the women’s categories of a major grappling association, leaving them fearing for their safety in many instances. One of the men, Corissa Griffith, took home four gold...
What makes this truly peculiar is that NAGA has a reasonably sane policy which is as follows:
"NAGA does not require biological women to compete against transgender women. Instead, we give the choice to the biological women and if they decline, they compete in a division only with other biological women. For those who chose not to compete with the transgender female, we will inquire if they have an interest in entering a separate division which includes the transgender female. This additional division will be offered at no cost to those competitors. However, if individuals decline this opportunity, the transgender female will be directed to compete with the males in their respective weight and skill level category."
This policy is apparently not enforced as the female participants were not informed in time to make the tournament adjustments, the transgendered males were not asked to compete with other males and the female competitors who self excluded themselves had their complaints ignored apparently by the NAGA officials.
Although, it is hilarious that women are losing their spaces because of feminists who pushed this shit. How fucking short-sighted of them. smh
Perhaps to you it's hilarious but to those of us who have daughters who train it isnt hilarious so much as infurating
Buba
A total creep
As there is no HUGGZ emoticon I gave you a heart.
There's such a thing as dark, depressive humour, my friend. This is one of those times where it's apt, and it's the context behind my finding this hilarious that matters.
Yeah this is messed up.Female Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitors dropped out of a North American Grappling Association (NAGA) tournament after being told they would be forced to compete against transitioning males.
As a result, one of the transgender Men, Corissa Griffith, took home four gold medals in a tournament on October 21st. In some cases, due to the withdrawal of actual Women competitors, there were more transgendered Men grappling in some tournaments then actual biological females. In one case two tranny Men, Corissa Griffith and Cordelia Gregory, who are apparently friends, won gold and silver in a tournament of which they were the only participants and celebrated their win on Instagram.
EXCLUSIVE: Women Abandon Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Tournament After Being Forced To Fight Males - Reduxx
Female martial artists have come forward to reveal that male athletes claiming to be transgender have completely overtaken the women’s categories of a major grappling association, leaving them fearing for their safety in many instances. One of the men, Corissa Griffith, took home four gold...
What makes this truly peculiar is that NAGA has a reasonably sane policy which is as follows:
"NAGA does not require biological women to compete against transgender women. Instead, we give the choice to the biological women and if they decline, they compete in a division only with other biological women. For those who chose not to compete with the transgender female, we will inquire if they have an interest in entering a separate division which includes the transgender female. This additional division will be offered at no cost to those competitors. However, if individuals decline this opportunity, the transgender female will be directed to compete with the males in their respective weight and skill level category."
This policy is apparently not enforced as the female participants were not informed in time to make the tournament adjustments, the transgendered males were not asked to compete with other males and the female competitors who self excluded themselves had their complaints ignored apparently by the NAGA officials.
But you also need to realize, (I am ranked in NAGA btw,) that NAGA has never been great for women. BJJ is a small sport, especially for women, and whole NAGA is a somewhat bigger tournament series, there's been times even ar NAGA tournaments when the women's divisions were so small that they combined weight classes, or just folded them into the men's divisions.
But yeah, they should just make the trans people roll with men.
As for not giving them notice or time to prepare? I fully believe that they had no idea the competitors were trans until they showed up looking like obvious dudes. There is no sort of screening for these tournaments aside from weigh ins.
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Women wanting attention and men fawning over their looks for their own personal gains have been prevalent in every piece of media since time began -- even graffiti back in ancient Roman and Egyptian times.
The Internet, and by extension the soc-med boom in the late 00's, is just the most recent iteration of this trend, and one where they can expand their attention-seeking to its fullest extent because of how capable it is.
The Internet was never going to be "neutral", and you're naive to ever think so.
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Yeah, we need men's only gyms back.
On the plus side, this attention-seeking 304 got herself banned. She ain't coming back.
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mrttao
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Canadian swim competition allows 50-year-old transgender professor to compete against 13-year-old girls
On Friday, October 20, a 50-year-old male named Nicholas J. Cepeda (who goes by "Melody Wiseheart") participated in a swimming competition at Markham Pan Am Centre - a city near Toronto.
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50 year old man who looks like a creep, is a toronto university professor for "child studies". Wore a dress and then allowed to compete against the girls.
the meet had different age brackets and gender brackets for kids of all ages.
including one for "17 year old girls" bracket
he didn't go there though, instead he specifically competed in the "13 year old girl" bracket instead.
...Yeah, this is the type of guy you'd say "check his hard drives" for.Canadian swim competition allows 50-year-old transgender professor to compete against 13-year-old girls
On Friday, October 20, a 50-year-old male named Nicholas J. Cepeda (who goes by "Melody Wiseheart") participated in a swimming competition at Markham Pan Am Centre - a city near Toronto.
50 year old man who looks like a creep, is a toronto university professor for "child studies". Wore a dress and then allowed to compete against the girls.
the meet had different age brackets and gender brackets for kids of all ages.
including one for "17 year old girls" bracket
he didn't go there though, instead he specifically competed in the "13 year old girl" bracket instead.
There's just something... I dunno. Gut instinct? Something feels off?
Buba
A total creep
Makes me want to vote Taliban ...
Also, WHO let him in? ANd why the 13 y/o heat? Why not entered in the VSenior Ladies event?
mrttao
Well-known member
He just looks like a pedophile.
That smile, that posture, those clothes, those glasses...
clearly that is the age of girls that give him a boner.
the 17 year old girls were too old for his taste
evilchumlee
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I don't think it's contradictory to be for trans rights, while also being against trans women in women's sports.
We understand Gender and Biological sex are not necessarily linked. "Gender" is really more of a social construct that has generally fallen on Biological sex lines.
I accept all of that. That's fine. Live your life.
With sports... the gender is irrelevant. Women's sports aren't about wearing skirts and looking feminine. Women's sports are separated due to the biological differences between men and women.
Most of the time, gender and sex can be irrelevant. In this specific instance, gender doesn't matter at all. You are free to present however you wish in your appropriately fitting biological sex sport.
We understand Gender and Biological sex are not necessarily linked. "Gender" is really more of a social construct that has generally fallen on Biological sex lines.
I accept all of that. That's fine. Live your life.
With sports... the gender is irrelevant. Women's sports aren't about wearing skirts and looking feminine. Women's sports are separated due to the biological differences between men and women.
Most of the time, gender and sex can be irrelevant. In this specific instance, gender doesn't matter at all. You are free to present however you wish in your appropriately fitting biological sex sport.
He misread Jormanders post he was talking about combative women not men. Basically women who like to argue and are aggressive up often up to physical violence for no reason. Except to try and prove they're dominant due to thier insecurities and being aware that thier outward projections of dominance and independence are frankly laughable. Despite the way they're trying to present themselves to the world. In effect the "girl bosses" masculinity is ironically in effect that of a weak insecure man trying to act tough.
See in a rational world what your saying would be the position that was being pushed forward publically. The thing is that isn't the world we currently inhabit and what is being pushed is men in drag entering into direct competition with women. Not only in softer sports either which is already unjust in the extreme but also in combat sports. Which is both horrifying and disgusting take Fallon Fox for example,a "trans" MMA fighter. Who quite literally beat the piss out of women on live television and was celebrated for doing so. The public face of "trans rights" not only loudly and proudly supports such things. They also routinely castigate anyone who objects to the clearly bogus "competitions" as bigots. As well as using the MSM to do thier absolute best to finicially,socially,and politically destroy thier lives. This is unacceptable and unless the trans community at large publicly denounce and push back against such things. Thier rights will be stripped and quite frankly violent reprisals will be used against them. That's not even including the communities obvious and blatant attempts to push thier lifestyle onto children. Anyway all I'm saying is if they want to not only maintain their rights but even thier lives. The average trans had better stand the hell up and put thier crazyass brethren in check. Because the patience and tolerance of us "cis" people is wearing very very thin...
evilchumlee
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I don't that I word it quite like that, but I agree in sentiment.
Reactionary extremists are never a good thing and sometimes people/groups can push too hard. They are currently pushing way too hard.
My litmus test for rights is that I believe in doing anything you want, until it infringes on another. Biological men in sports specifically protected for biological women is just fundamentally wrong. What gender one is expressing is irrelevant in that regard.
I would be completely ok and supportive of a trans/open category for sports. Let's get on that.
I think i'm a pretty reasonable, progressive guy. Trans women are women... in most aspects of life. But also there is the reality that trans women are... trans women, not just "women" full stop. It usually doesn't matter. One a few occasions, it does.
Ixian
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Trans "women" are men, full stop.
They can call themselves whatever they want, dress however they want, be with whomever they want.
But they don't get to dictate reality, nor force others to play pretend with them.