DarthOne
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You assume they'll actually do it. The current lineup has been a severe disappointment and more interested in playing politics than doing their actual damn job...
Things get worse in The Southwest
- Thread starter Cherico
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Im just going to ask a very simple question.
Do you personally know of any one who likes my state?
And don't say washington or Oregon, secretly both of them would be pleased as punch if we were taken down a notch.
AspblastUSA
Well-known member
Actual California or the idea of California? I live in the rust belt, and while I haven't met anyone aware of the current state of the place who like it, plenty of other people still only know it from TV shows and think it sounds great.
What they did is perfectly legal and constitutional.
But it's also meaningless, because all it actually means is that various politicians can't take all expenses paid trips to those states.
You and I both know the politicians will take private jets and break thier rules
Of course they will, which is part of why it's completely meaningless and nothing more then political theater like so much else politicians say and do.
Buba
A total creep
Weren't the first such travel bans introduced by California in 2016?
And the people of Cali will still vote for them
I never said we were smart .
DarthOne
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More like the smart ones are outnumbered by the idiots...and the grifters.
Welcome to the danger of voting for someone just because they have an R or D next to their name.
Airedale260
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Well, actually…
…d’oh, ninja’d
Anyway, yes, I fully expect someone, if not Newsom himself then some high-ranking politician, to pull a Gretchen Whitmer on travel.
Anyway, @Cherico sure I like your state…redwoods, Yosemite National Park, Death Valley, the Golden Gate Bridge, its importance as part of the U.S. intermodal shipping system that’s actually on par with the Panama Canal for shipping things from Atlantic to Pacific, and, of course, Napa and Sonoma Valley wines…
As for the rest…well, I’m a lifelong New Jerseyan so I totally get the whole “shaking your head at the idiots running your state and the even bigger idiots who keep voting them back in” thing. Though we just got slapped down by SCOTUS this week for some shenanigans or other but I forget what. I do know we deserved it.
Val the Moofia Boss
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California used to be a hard red state, but the Left allowed swathes of illegal immigrants in, pushing it into a blue state. Legally only citizens are supposed to vote, but the police don't check. Someone did the math (in 2016): if it wasn't for the illegal immigrants voting, Donald Trump would have won California. That is how red California is. Just because California is ostensibly a "blue" state doesn't mean everyone there is blue. Take a two minute drive outside of LA and visit rural and suburban California. You will find that they don't think like Los Angeles or San Francisco or Hollywood at all. If California were to become it's own country, it'd face the same "blue city dwellers vs red countryfolk" divide like the current US.
Rather than seceding, it'd be better if California was broken up into smaller states/countries. Keep the insane megacities of LA and San Francisco isolated from the rest of us.
As for the Supreme Court... why do you think it's going to protect you? The Supreme Court is the Left's weapon. They got abortion legalized through the Supreme Court. If you put abortion to a popular vote, it would lose. California didn't vote to legalize gay marriage; most people hate it. It was legalized through the courts. If you put it to a popular vote, it would lose, and the left knows that. That's why they have to bypass the democratic process to force their crap onto us.
Ofcourse, the government only has as much power as you give them. California was supposed to have been locked down in 2020... but in actuality it was only really enforced in the megacities. Sacramento was pissed that local law enforcement in places like Barstow weren't enforcing stupid lockdowns, because the local law enforcement aren't beholden to them. They're paid by and beholden to local taxpayers. The lockdown didn't exist outside the big cities and people carried on with their lives as normal.
f1onagher
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I live in Texas. California is verging on being a slur here.
That being said...
California used to be a hard red state, but the Left allowed swathes of illegal immigrants in, pushing it into a blue state. Legally only citizens are supposed to vote, but the police don't check. Someone did the math (in 2016): if it wasn't for the illegal immigrants voting, Donald Trump would have won California. That is how red California is. Just because California is ostensibly a "blue" state doesn't mean everyone there is blue. Take a two minute drive outside of LA and visit rural and suburban California. You will find that they don't think like Los Angeles or San Francisco or Hollywood at all. If California were to become it's own country, it'd face the same "blue city dwellers vs red countryfolk" divide like the current US.
Any conversation about the subject acknowledges this fact pretty quickly. California is a state held hostage by a nigh-treasonous political class that gleefully reduces its population (legal and illegal) to modern serfhood to enrich itself and a select cadre of approved fellow elites. That someone hasn't snapped and taken to sniping politicians from the hills is a miracle by this point.
I'm in the Army and people from Cali we joke about it being commiefornia. Except not joking
hyperspacewizard
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I’m from Texas as well and I fear that Dallas and Austin will soon turn into our version of those areas. Especially with all the people from blue areas coming to here I haven’t done any research on it but I assume they’ll want to move to those cities. I mean those cities already and have been for a while more out there than the rest of Texas.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Urban life is posionous for the psyche, and it does create leftists. So how to limit influence of the cities on politics in general?
In Croatia, Communists forcibly relocated rural population to cities, presumably for exactly this reason.
f1onagher
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The blueing of Texas is more the result of Texan colleges than immigration from any direction. Remember, Texas is a historically Democratic state and it took decades of hard work for the Republicans to flip it. There's a natural tendency to shift back, especially in the grotesquely tainted academia. Heavy urbanization leans blue due to the mechanics of Machine politics but Texas enjoys a number of insulators against such tactics. I'm hoping recent political trends continue as it will leave Dem-leaning urbanites voting against Rep-leaning literally everyone else. It will require Abbot to act like a conservative more than he's historically been comfortable with, but I think it's in the realm of possibility.
But yes, Austin has long been the California satellite campus in Texas.
We really should start pushing for an electoral college on a state level. We're big enough for it to be prudent.
This is actually an enforcement action that the state Attorney General is required to take under the terms of the 2016 California law that enacted those travel bans.