Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
True bravery is to feel fear, accept it, and overcome it.
I think Lord Miles has something genuinely wrong with his brain where he doesn’t feel much, if any fear. Either that or he’s an adrenaline junky.
The War in Afghanistan
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I think Lord Miles has something genuinely wrong with his brain where he doesn’t feel much, if any fear. Either that or he’s an adrenaline junky.
Agent23
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And people still care about him because?
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
For the meme.
Likely the latter.
Overcoming fear to commit to a course of action is admirable, yes, but when that course of action is still fucking stupid and will likely result in a Darwin Award, it's still a fucking stupid decision.
Agent23
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Meme got old years ago.
Even before the Saigon 2.0 pullout.
DarthOne
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We have to find something to laugh at as it all burns down friend.
Afghanistan's embassy to India might close down. Apparently they keep losing ambassadorial staff who leave their positions to claim asylum abroad.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
I don't blàme them. Who the fuck would wànt to work with the Tàlibàn?
Even if they gàin 40k per month or more, who the fuck who wànts to àssociàte with them?
A Taliban delegation was received in the Russian city of Kazan for diplomatic talks with special envoys from other countries including Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Turkey as well as the Central Asian Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to discuss regional security issues and for Taliban to create a more "inclusive" government.
www.thehindu.com
apnews.com
economictimes.indiatimes.com
While the Taliban yielded on nothing regarding a more representative government, economic integration, giving rights to Women and minorities, relaxing Sharia laws, improving the welfare of its people or conditions that have led to refugees fleeing to neighboring countries or anything else domestically related, they were able to extract assurances from their regional partners that humanitarian aid would continue to flow into Afghanistan. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also helpfully opened the meeting by reading a statement that it was the responsibility of the Western powers to rebuild Afghanistan.
Kazan meet makes no headway on equal rights in Afghanistan
At Moscow Format, India representatives discuss equal rights for all Afghans; Taliban Foreign Minister calls for economic support, political recognition. Participants urge US to unblock Afghan assets, reject return of US/NATO forces. India grapples with Afghan Embassy closure in Delhi.
Russia hosts the Taliban for talks on regional threats and says it will keep funding Afghanistan
Afghanistan's Taliban representatives are in the Russian city of Kazan for talks on regional threats as Russia attempts to maintain its influence in Central Asia.
apnews.com
Moscow format meet calls for inclusive govt in Kabul & ensuring women’s rights
India was represented at Fridays meeting by its Moscow-based envoy Pawan Kapoor. ET was the first to report that India will participate in the Moscow format meet in Kazan on September 29.
While the Taliban yielded on nothing regarding a more representative government, economic integration, giving rights to Women and minorities, relaxing Sharia laws, improving the welfare of its people or conditions that have led to refugees fleeing to neighboring countries or anything else domestically related, they were able to extract assurances from their regional partners that humanitarian aid would continue to flow into Afghanistan. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also helpfully opened the meeting by reading a statement that it was the responsibility of the Western powers to rebuild Afghanistan.
So, they got everything they wanted while giving up nothing, and the other nations (especially Russia and China) are trying to use them as a "gotcha!" against the West.A Taliban delegation was received in the Russian city of Kazan for diplomatic talks with special envoys from other countries including Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Turkey as well as the Central Asian Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to discuss regional security issues and for Taliban to create a more "inclusive" government.
Kazan meet makes no headway on equal rights in Afghanistan
At Moscow Format, India representatives discuss equal rights for all Afghans; Taliban Foreign Minister calls for economic support, political recognition. Participants urge US to unblock Afghan assets, reject return of US/NATO forces. India grapples with Afghan Embassy closure in Delhi.
Russia hosts the Taliban for talks on regional threats and says it will keep funding Afghanistan
Afghanistan's Taliban representatives are in the Russian city of Kazan for talks on regional threats as Russia attempts to maintain its influence in Central Asia.
Moscow format meet calls for inclusive govt in Kabul & ensuring women’s rights
India was represented at Fridays meeting by its Moscow-based envoy Pawan Kapoor. ET was the first to report that India will participate in the Moscow format meet in Kazan on September 29.
While the Taliban yielded on nothing regarding a more representative government, economic integration, giving rights to Women and minorities, relaxing Sharia laws, improving the welfare of its people or conditions that have led to refugees fleeing to neighboring countries or anything else domestically related, they were able to extract assurances from their regional partners that humanitarian aid would continue to flow into Afghanistan. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also helpfully opened the meeting by reading a statement that it was the responsibility of the Western powers to rebuild Afghanistan.
Yeah, this isn't going to end well. I knew the Russians and Chinese were fucking stupid, but what in the hell...
King Arts
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Why are they stupid? Why would Russia and China card if Afghanistan “concedes” on women’s rights or gay rights or whatever liberal policies you and the west care about and want to spread. I’m sure China and Russia asked for Afghanistan to give up things they actually care about and are strategically valuable.
Well first off, Gay Rights weren't mentioned so nice red herring. And actually the Pashtuns are all about fucking and raping boys so there's no worries on that front anyways.
Also there were actually multiple countries at the meeting, not just Russia and China. Several of these countries have shared ethnic minorities inside of Afghanistan with Uzbekistan or Tajikistan for example.
Furthermore I don't know if I'd characterize "relaxing Sharia" and "worrying about mass migration/refugees" and "coordinating to fight the Islamic State terrorists" is a "Liberal policy the West cares about and wants to spread."
You see oppressing ethnic minorities, oppressing women, having hardline sharia law, and everything else that is apparently "Liberal policies the West only cares about" has caused destabilization of neighboring regions. There have been skirmishes between Taliban forces and Iran and some of the other 'stans. There has been unresolved Islamic State activity that has threatened the neighbors as well and no one wants to support a backwards Islamic Rogue State against a slightly more backwards Islamic Terrorist State because the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
There have also been tens of thousands of refugees that have flooded into the neighboring countries as well, and destabilized their neighbors further. Also these issues will result in difficulty in Afghanistan's Taliban government earning international recognition and thus the economic integration that the Taliban want so much, in addition to the tranches of foreign aid they are currently subsisting on.
All of this was touched on in the articles I linked in the post (two from Indian English Language media and one from the Associated Press news wire but yeah... liberal Western mainstream media I guess) and stuff I mentioned in brief after posting the article links in my concluding paragraph but yeah... go ahead with the hot takes and sound off.
Pakistan working on expelling some of the four million Afghan refugees currently within its country and pushing them back into Taliban controlled Afghanistan. Some of the refugees have lived in Pakistan for over twelve years.
There was an October 31st deadline for undocumented migrants to leave Pakistan and according to the Taliban some 60,000 have returned to Afghanistan since September 22nd. Of the four million Afghan refugees in Pakistan, about 1.7 million are undocumented and the focus of the expulsion. What is also interesting is that Pakistan is reportedly intimidating Afghans with legal status into leaving Pakistan as well, with more then twice as many Afghans with legal status already having left Pakistan for Afghanistan this year compared with the year before with many reporting state backed threats of harassment and arrest as a reason for their departure.
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www.reuters.com
No Jews involved though so it's fine.
There was an October 31st deadline for undocumented migrants to leave Pakistan and according to the Taliban some 60,000 have returned to Afghanistan since September 22nd. Of the four million Afghan refugees in Pakistan, about 1.7 million are undocumented and the focus of the expulsion. What is also interesting is that Pakistan is reportedly intimidating Afghans with legal status into leaving Pakistan as well, with more then twice as many Afghans with legal status already having left Pakistan for Afghanistan this year compared with the year before with many reporting state backed threats of harassment and arrest as a reason for their departure.
Afghans return to Taliban rule as Pakistan moves to expel 1.7 million
Reuters interviewed seven refugee families, as well as four Taliban and Pakistani officials who said Islamabad's threat - and a subsequent rise in state-backed harassment - has torn families apart and pushed even Afghans with valid papers to leave.
www.reuters.com
No Jews involved though so it's fine.
Pakistan working on expelling some of the four million Afghan refugees currently within its country and pushing them back into Taliban controlled Afghanistan. Some of the refugees have lived in Pakistan for over twelve years.
There was an October 31st deadline for undocumented migrants to leave Pakistan and according to the Taliban some 60,000 have returned to Afghanistan since September 22nd. Of the four million Afghan refugees in Pakistan, about 1.7 million are undocumented and the focus of the expulsion. What is also interesting is that Pakistan is reportedly intimidating Afghans with legal status into leaving Pakistan as well, with more then twice as many Afghans with legal status already having left Pakistan for Afghanistan this year compared with the year before with many reporting state backed threats of harassment and arrest as a reason for their departure.
Afghans return to Taliban rule as Pakistan moves to expel 1.7 million
Reuters interviewed seven refugee families, as well as four Taliban and Pakistani officials who said Islamabad's threat - and a subsequent rise in state-backed harassment - has torn families apart and pushed even Afghans with valid papers to leave.
No Jews involved though so it's fine.
Not surprised, and I don't really blame Pakistan for that either.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
I have little sympathy for the Pakistani government...don't know any Pakistani, but here in Italy they were known for being honor killing daughters a decade and half ago or slightly more or less, give or take.Pakistan working on expelling some of the four million Afghan refugees currently within its country and pushing them back into Taliban controlled Afghanistan. Some of the refugees have lived in Pakistan for over twelve years.
There was an October 31st deadline for undocumented migrants to leave Pakistan and according to the Taliban some 60,000 have returned to Afghanistan since September 22nd. Of the four million Afghan refugees in Pakistan, about 1.7 million are undocumented and the focus of the expulsion. What is also interesting is that Pakistan is reportedly intimidating Afghans with legal status into leaving Pakistan as well, with more then twice as many Afghans with legal status already having left Pakistan for Afghanistan this year compared with the year before with many reporting state backed threats of harassment and arrest as a reason for their departure.
Afghans return to Taliban rule as Pakistan moves to expel 1.7 million
Reuters interviewed seven refugee families, as well as four Taliban and Pakistani officials who said Islamabad's threat - and a subsequent rise in state-backed harassment - has torn families apart and pushed even Afghans with valid papers to leave.
No Jews involved though so it's fine.
My Iraqi friend tell me that they tend to be the most "stalker-ish" she met.
The fact their governments have been historically sinophiles for the past sixty years doesn't endear me to them, add to the mix they sponsor the Naxalites (Maoist terror group in east India) and that they (or used to sponsor) lots of Salafist groups, which may explain why so many British Pakistanis joined Daesh, in the world.
The only minorities they treat worse than the Afghans are the Hindu and Sikh minorities left, or the even the descendants of Alexander the Great.
Add also to the explosive mix that it has become unstable and you could have a Balkan 1990s style powderkeg rigged for explosion.
DarthOne
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I don't know if I can stand watching ninety minutes of that even with subtitles. From his social media and the articles following his release it seemed like he was being pretty well treated and living in relative luxury while the aid workers that were captured along with him got the standard Taliban captivity experience of poor treatment and perpetual illness.
Agent23
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Where, to Afghanistan?
Is he doing this for the clicks, because he is nuts or just an idiot.