The War in Afghanistan

[Jormungandr]

It might. But that would never be allowed by the people back home or the international community.

Fact is the Coalition was NEVER going to succeed at making liberal democracies out of these places unless they were willing to do what Hadrian did in Judea. They went in thinking they could do what was done in Germany and Japan after WW2 but those places had wildly different cultures and had recent democratic experiments that had gone decently until upsets happened.

With Afghanistan and Iraq? Nah. Wasn't going to happen. We might, MIGHT have gotten away with making Afghanistan a islamic kingdom under the old King with a conservative constitution, maybe, but when we started trying to emancipate their women and introduce western ideological pushes that chance was gone.

Yep: Basically, commit cultural and societal genocide. This was done all the time during ancient empires and civilizations. How many cities and areas that we know of were once of different names, religions, cultures, and peoples that we don't know of? Hell, we only know of the Etruscan civilization because of it only being mentioned a few times in Roman history, and their language becoming integrated into primitive Latin. Otherwise, we'd have never known of their existence.

Another example? The smaller civilizations the Aztecs encountered and later subsumed, before they founded their infamous city. We know of some names, and... that's it.

Of course, it's heinous, barbaric, and (in this modern day and age) impossible due to communication methods, records, and the Internet.

 

[Bassoe]

They went in thinking they could do what was done in Germany and Japan after WW2 but those places had wildly different cultures...

Also, the Soviet Union, who everyone, Germans and Japanese included, knew if the Americans gave up on imperializing would be taking over the job. And them.

Basically the same role we're gonna be playing in China's propaganda toward the Taliban now. 'We just want you to sell us your natural resources and not attack us in exchange for being important to our economy and therefore under our protection, and you should want to be important to us, because without our protection, they'd come back'.

 

[Marduk]

Also, the Soviet Union, who everyone, Germans and Japanese included, knew if the Americans gave up on imperializing would be taking over the job. And them.

Basically the same role we're gonna be playing in China's propaganda toward the Taliban now. 'We just want you to sell us your natural resources and not attack us in exchange for being important to our economy and therefore under our protection, and you should want to be important to us, because without our protection, they'd come back'.

Ironically enough, the Taliban themselves are also an imperial force representing a foreign power. Just a culturally and geographically closer one (Pakistan).

 

[Arch Dornan]

American Woman Stranded in Afghanistan Says She’s Losing Hope: ‘Am I Going to End Up Dying Here?’

m.theepochtimes.com

Halp.

 

[TyrantTriumphant]

Something to keep in mind on Afghanistan is that it doesn't produce enough food to sustain its population. Before we invaded they had only about as many people as they could feed but after that we started shipping in massive amounts of food and the population exploded.

Which means that unless they want the country to starve the Taliban will have to get it from China, who will demand significant concessions. And the Chinese will have to buy that food from us.

Unless of course Joe Biden is stupid enough to keep giving Afghanistan food for free, which I wouldn't put past him.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Something to keep in mind on Afghanistan is that it doesn't produce enough food to sustain its population. Before we invaded they had only about as many people as they could feed but after that we started shipping in massive amounts of food and the population exploded.

Which means that unless they want the country to starve the Taliban will have to get it from China, who will demand significant concessions. And the Chinese will have to buy that food from us.

Unless of course Joe Biden is stupid enough to keep giving Afghanistan food for free, which I wouldn't put past him.

Remember when the Left panicked about Overpopulation? Wonder why they'd give out food for free if that was the case...

 

[Marduk]

Unless of course Joe Biden is stupid enough to keep giving Afghanistan food for free, which I wouldn't put past him.

The stupid caucus is way ahead of you, and its not just Biden, its all of the world famous stupid political actors. This isn't just ol' boring stupidity, this is organized international stupidity.

U.S. wants aid to Afghanistan to continue despite sanctions on Taliban

The United States is taking steps to allow humanitarian work to continue in Afghanistan despite U.S. sanctions on the Taliban, which seized power 11 days ago.

www.reuters.com

U.N. Return to Afghanistan: ‘This Is Completely Insane’

A month ago, the United Nations was pulling its staff out of Afghanistan. Now, it’s headed back in to avert a major humanitarian crisis.

foreignpolicy.com

Biden Will Fund Taliban Through "Humanitarian Aid" | FrontpageMag

I predicted that when the Taliban take Afghanistan, money will keep flowing to the Jihadist group under the guise of humanitarian aid. On August 17, I

www.frontpagemag.com

EU Tries to Cut Taliban Deal to Block Afghan Migrants | FrontpageMag

The European Union keeps talking about human rights and an inclusive government, but what they really want from the Taliban are two things. 1. The

www.frontpagemag.com

 

[Bacle]

 

[Bacle]

Anyone seeing anything else about this, because it is massive if true.

 

[gral]

Anyone seeing anything else about this, because it is massive if true.

It's true, apparently.

 

[Bacle]

It's true, apparently.

Yeah, the rest of that thread...holy shit.

 

[Zachowon]

Any info on what the Taliban want?

 

[gral]

Any info on what the Taliban want?

What I'm hearing it's money. Supposedly the Taliban have been cut from the international banking system, and it's previous sources of funding(IMF, World Bank and the US Government), with the result being they are fast running out of money. This hostage situation seems to be "restore our access to money and we'll let these Americans go".

 

[Zachowon]

What I'm hearing it's money. Supposedly the Taliban have been cut from the international banking system, and it's previous sources of funding(IMF, World Bank and the US Government), with the result being they are fast running out of money. This hostage situation seems to be "restore our access to money and we'll let these Americans go".

Makes sense.
Still, it seems they are just not letting them leave then holding them hostage.
There is technically a diffrence, horrible either way

 

[gral]

Still, it seems they are just not letting them leave then holding them hostage.

Right now, it seems to be so.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Bacle]

 

[Zachowon]

I feel like there are a large amount that want us to go back just so we can rescue those people, and then stay there because they need us too.

An officer I work with thinks we will.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Honestly the smart move would be to get the people we want out via unblocking the money supply and then the second we confirm we have everyone out snap it shut again and laugh at the dumb terrorists

 

[Zachowon]

Honestly the smart move would be to get the people we want out via unblocking the money supply and then the second we confirm we have everyone out snap it shut again and laugh at the dumb terrorists

I mean, they would probably expect that