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That was disappointing you'd think they'd know that selling an idea like this is guranteed to have both sides watching you to sling mud at each other. No fucking way will you run away laughing at selling snake oil.
 

That was disappointing you'd think they'd know that selling an idea like this is guranteed to have both sides watching you to sling mud at each other. No fucking way will you run away laughing at selling snake oil.

I give slightly better than even odds that it's not a legit charge, that this is a political smear job. However, only slightly better than even; I honestly don't know much about Bannon, just the habits of leftists.
 
I give slightly better than even odds that it's not a legit charge, that this is a political smear job. However, only slightly better than even; I honestly don't know much about Bannon, just the habits of leftists.
The timing is suspect, that's for fucking certain.

I won't speak either way until more info comes out. It could just be a political attack, though.
 
SDNY was also the team that went after Dinesh D'Souza, if you needed more reason to be cynical.

My take on this whole debacle is very simple:

1) Steve Bannon is a useless grifter who Trump has wisely distanced himself from, so I wouldn't put something like this past him.

2) This level of grift almost certainly occurs hundreds of times every day around the country without prompting prosecution.

3) Rather than defending Bannon, I would like for conservative US Attorneys to take this as the go ahead to indict everybody involved with various left-wing NGO money-laundering schemes.
 

Coincidence that this warning comes from Guatemala's political leadership now... as well as the clear statement that physical walls won't work... only a wall of prosperity across Central America that the West must help with?

Hmm, convenient, a globalist "president"-"elect" and then suddenly a country that would stand to benefit from globalism makes an ultimatum based on globalism. Yes, it is entirely a convenient coincidence.
 
To give this thread a bump, a phenomenon we've all heard before about how Big Tech companies prefer importing more H1-B visa workers they can more easily employ and exploit then American citizens. Of course this time it's Facebook, but they're only the latest in a long line of Big Tech companies doing this stuff.

 

Through more executive orders Biden will end the deals that the Trump Administration signed with Guatemala over blocking Central American asylum seekers from coming directly to the United States instead of the "first country of refuge," accords that were implemented in the wake of the Covid-19 Pandemic. This deal prevented thousands of migrants from Central America from travelling through Mexico to the United States and also resulted in the deportation of hundreds of other Central American asylum seekers from US detainment and sending them back to their countries of origin.
 
To give this thread a bump, a phenomenon we've all heard before about how Big Tech companies prefer importing more H1-B visa workers they can more easily employ and exploit then American citizens. Of course this time it's Facebook, but they're only the latest in a long line of Big Tech companies doing this stuff.

Of course - these people are always talking out of both sides of their mouths. For all the bluster about raising minimum wage and the like, they would still much rather pay poverty wages to some poor foreigner that they can exploit and then line their pockets with all the extra profit they make. Yet somehow they have all these wannabe commies supporting them. And then there's cases like Apple, where they speak out against slavery and make virtue signals like eliminating "master/slave" terminology, yet they turn around and fight against bills that would actually try to do something to combat the use of slave labor.


Through more executive orders Biden will end the deals that the Trump Administration signed with Guatemala over blocking Central American asylum seekers from coming directly to the United States instead of the "first country of refuge," accords that were implemented in the wake of the Covid-19 Pandemic. This deal prevented thousands of migrants from Central America from travelling through Mexico to the United States and also resulted in the deportation of hundreds of other Central American asylum seekers from US detainment and sending them back to their countries of origin.
Things like this help to illustrate just how seriously the left takes the threat posed by COVID, which is to say not all that much.
 
Through more executive orders Biden will end the deals that the Trump Administration signed with Guatemala over blocking Central American asylum seekers from coming directly to the United States instead of the "first country of refuge," accords that were implemented in the wake of the Covid-19 Pandemic. This deal prevented thousands of migrants from Central America from travelling through Mexico to the United States and also resulted in the deportation of hundreds of other Central American asylum seekers from US detainment and sending them back to their countries of origin.
The story you linked appears to me to be referring to an agreement that was signed in July 2019 and entered into force in November 2019. Obviously that time period would not have been "in the wake of the pandemic". What am I missing here?
Things like this help to illustrate just how seriously the left takes the threat posed by COVID, which is to say not all that much.
Biden is canceling agreements whose terms have been postponed since March 2020; clearly the pandemic-related consequences of this decision will be catastrophic because...?
 
Do I really have to explain why the mass movement of people across and into other countries is an especially bad idea during a pandemic?
Unless I misread the story, nothing Biden did changed the situation because the activities the agreement facilitated had already been on hold for 10 months. Canceling the agreement will not worsen the pandemic because it won't actually change what is currently happening.

Where in the above logic have I gone wrong?
 
Here's an example of one of the latest Covid Caravans thankfully stopped by Guatemalan forces as linked in the previous article.
Would it be fair to infer from your lack of response that you concede to error in your characterization of the temporal relation between the Trump administration's deal and the pandemic?
 

Here they come... 😁

I wonder if the incoming Biden Administration is having any effect on the alleged surge of immigrants coming to the US borders.
 
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Unless I misread the story, nothing Biden did changed the situation because the activities the agreement facilitated had already been on hold for 10 months. Canceling the agreement will not worsen the pandemic because it won't actually change what is currently happening.

Where in the above logic have I gone wrong?
As Husky's above post demonstrates whether it means anything in law or not is irrelevant to the situation.

The fact is that by ripping up this agreement even if it was on hold, Biden is symbolically sending a gesture of the opening the floodgates, as already people in Central America are seeing it as a greenlight to immigrate illegally to test the waters further, and quite frankly that is the last thing we need.

If the agreement really meant that little because it was on hold then Biden should have been divesting his time elsewhere where it is actually needed, rather than giving symbolic signals that invite a worsening of the present situation.
 
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As Husky's above post demonstrates whether it means anything in law or not is irrelevant to the situation.

The fact is that by ripping up this agreement even if it was on hold, Biden is symbolically sending a gesture of the opening the floodgates, as already people in Central America are seeing it as a greenlight to immigrate illegally to test the waters further, and quite frankly that is the last thing we need.

If the agreement really meant that little because it was on hold then Biden should have been divesting his time elsewhere where it is actually needed, rather than giving symbolic signals that invite a worsening of the present situation.
I am not at all convinced that Biden's action with respect to this specific agreement is a significant reason they (allegedly) perceive that their prospects of getting in are now better.

To clarify my earlier post, when I said "nothing Biden did changed the situation" I meant "nothing about Biden canceling that agreement changed the situation".
 

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