The Americas The Tyranny of Trudeau's Canada

Circle of Willis

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Christians trying to copy militant Islam would be a horrible mistake, because it would only serve to prove the Leftists right, and give them an excuse to crack down on other Christians. They would not start shitting themselves the way they do with Muslims, because in their heads, Islam is coded to brown people and Christianity is coded to white people, and we will see the same kind of double standard that we already see with them in everything else.
While I would certainly never recommend anyone copy ISIS, I think it's important to note that at their core, modern leftists are sadistic cowards to a man and womyn - ever eager to attack targets they deem soft, but quick to retreat in the face of actual resistance. I would point to the example of all those Antifa thugs getting sent running when the cops can't protect them or Kyle Rittenhouse putting an end to the Summer of Love with three bullets, but since this is a Canada thread, I will instead say that Trudeau (a 'man' who instantly fled his own capital and disappeared for weeks on end when confronted by truckers honking in its streets) exemplifies this better than most. Literally the only thing keeping said truckers from overthrowing the government in those first days after Trudeau fled Ottawa was their own niceness and continuing willingness to abide by the law: the cops couldn't have gotten them out of the streets without their cooperation, even after a month, and our military is in such extreme disrepair that they'd be of no use in rooting a determined enemy out of a Canadian city. (And for all that, in the end the Freedom Convoy still got what they wanted - an end to COVID restrictions - anyway.)

It isn't being brown that gives Muslims so much of their power: yes, leftists will fawn over them to stick it to the big bad evil straight white Christians, but as that Edmonton teacher at the start of this line of conversation reveals, the instant Muslims don't play along with progressive dogma in any way they drop hard & fast in leftists' esteem. In this regard they are no different than, for example, Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder-esque blacks who stray off the plantation (in Canada, an equivalent to these guys would be Leslyn Lewis, a major leader of our Tories' social conservative wing) or Asians who just want to work hard & make a living.

The only meaningful difference which keeps progs from bullying, canceling, attacking, etc. Muslims as they do any other minority that steps out of line is that they aren't law-abiding and will respond to provocations not by peaceably allowing themselves to be arrested or removed by police, but with the bomb and machete. I suspect a similar fear of violent reprisal also plays at least as much of a role in leftists' attitude toward black criminals as their own racial fetishes. The globalist respects nothing and nobody, not even xirself, but they do genuinely fear strength and its application.

Leftists already believe the mere existence of Christians is violent oppression: there is no use for any Christian to appeal to whatever good nature they might possess. They are already deploying the full force of the state against Christians, arresting them and freezing their bank accounts for peaceful protest (whether it be against drag kids or COVID restrictions, both have happened here). When the Christians' incredible patience has been worn down to a snapping point, and even the cops flee from their explosion of wrath in terror, and no longer respond to orders to crack down on Christian protests (whether peaceful or 'peaceful') - that's when you'll start seeing a cultural sea change in Christianity's favor; at least here in Canada, where Christianity still being a (dwindling) majority is one of the very few threads we still have to the idea of a Canadian nation at all in what is otherwise a wholly rootless, acultural globalist colony.

The only question in my mind is not whether this will happen eventually (you can only push people so hard before they snap) but whether our establishment is smart enough to understand this eventuality and will try to relieve some pressure before it explodes (maybe by letting the Tories win our next election and reverse Trudeau's most egregious bullshit, for example). I doubt it though, even before the Trudeaus our Laurentian establishment's infamously insular and so arrogant that even Lucifer would tell them to be more humble, and they must have become like 10,000x worse since PET.
 

TheRomanSlayer

Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
I shudder at how a civil war within Canada would look like, given the large territories that have to be covered. It would basically be like Finland on steroids, only we're getting Super Size Me! Finland as a perfect analogue.

The left would always use the moral angle as a cudgel to beat their opponents, so the best way to counter it would be to not play the moral angle, but striking back. Heck, I'd love to see the globalist left get the Odessa Trade Union treatment in Canada.
 

IndyFront

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When I first read it (I hadn't drank my coffee yet), I thought you'd titled it "The Tranny of Trudeau's Canada" and that certainly woke me up!




This is why I'm increasingly of the mind that the average citizen should well armed. Like how in medieval Britton every peasant was expected to be able to maintain and use a bow.
Also the mentally ill should have the right to bear arms, because the mentally ill are oppressed in many ways just by existing
 

Sir 1000

Shitlord
>Muslims giving a shit about Groomers United events

...She does know that muslims in the Middle-East have "support groups" on top of buildings, right? Or if you're in Iran, they basically force you into being a trans-trender to "stop being gay", otherwise they cut off heads?

Fucking Leftoids are delusional again. smh
No, they know this is what happens to them, they just consider that a strategic ''alliance''. They hate you(fellow citizen with a mere difference of opinion) more than the people throwing them off roof tops. Which is as irrational as it sounds though it makes perfect logical sense to them.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Quebec just needs to leave take the bandage rip it off and form their own country. This middle ground thing isn't working for anyone

Yeah, but as "slanted" as CBC's coverage of the matter is, there'd probably be a heck of an outcry if a newly seceded Quebec banned English in government and commercial contexts (since lots of Quebecois still speak it regularly).

Making French the official language, I can understand to an extent. However, I suppose that in the event of Quebecois secession, my suggestion to add an amendment to their charter that still upholds protection for minority languages (again, English) would be a tad self-defeating for the Quebecois nationalists, wouldn't it? :cautious:
 

Cherico

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Yeah, but as "slanted" as CBC's coverage of the matter is, there'd probably be a heck of an outcry if a newly seceded Quebec banned English in government and commercial contexts (since lots of Quebecois still speak it regularly).

Making French the official language, I can understand to an extent. However, I suppose that in the event of Quebecois secession, my suggestion to add an amendment to their charter that still upholds protection for minority languages (again, English) would be a tad self-defeating for the Quebecois nationalists, wouldn't it? :cautious:
Honestly this whole situation is bad for everyone not just the quebecoise. If Quebec had left in the 90s Canada would have rebuilt a more stable national identity in it's absence. Instead we are most likely going to see a much worse disintegration when this all blows up.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Honestly this whole situation is bad for everyone not just the quebecoise. If Quebec had left in the 90s Canada would have rebuilt a more stable national identity in it's absence. Instead we are most likely going to see a much worse disintegration when this all blows up.

Yeah…

As Americans, you and I hear about National Divorce all the time, even if not much of anything in the way of “concrete” (other than counties wanting out from certain states) has been realized yet.

Canada, on the other hand, seems much more serious about it and is barreling in that direction way, way faster than the US is currently. Much as the people of Canada pride themselves on niceness and social cohesion, a flashpoint like this is something observant foreigners will take note of, and could bring out much a “darker” side in Canadians and Quebecois alike if it goes off. :oops:
 

TheRomanSlayer

Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
Perhaps the new slogan for a disintegrating Canada should be War, Chaos, and Bad Governance.

There should actually be a huge reorganization of Canada and the US along ideological lines. As I've said in an earlier post, sending the woke crudlibs to the Laurentian part of Canada would be ideal, but attach the New England region and New York to it, and in exchange, the temporarily truncated US could get all of Central and Western Canada. They also have to cut out the parts of California that's hopelessly woke, and turn that into an independent state on its own. Alternatively, there's the option of sending the woke crudlibs to various US Pacific Islands and Hawaii as well, as a kind of internal exile.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Perhaps the new slogan for a disintegrating Canada should be War, Chaos, and Bad Governance.

There should actually be a huge reorganization of Canada and the US along ideological lines. As I've said in an earlier post, sending the woke crudlibs to the Laurentian part of Canada would be ideal, but attach the New England region and New York to it, and in exchange, the temporarily truncated US could get all of Central and Western Canada. They also have to cut out the parts of California that's hopelessly woke, and turn that into an independent state on its own. Alternatively, there's the option of sending the woke crudlibs to various US Pacific Islands and Hawaii as well, as a kind of internal exile.

Color me curious as to how you’d enforce that?

Other than, you know, Stalinist mass-deportations in which tons of people are forcibly deported or expelled from their current homes. Granted, I’m sure many would move voluntarily if US states and Canadian provinces self-segregated along ideological lines, but what you’re proposing sounds awfully authoritarian to me and would give the central government far, far more power than I’d be comfortable with in practice.
 

TheRomanSlayer

Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
Color me curious as to how you’d enforce that?

Other than, you know, Stalinist mass-deportations in which tons of people are forcibly deported or expelled from their current homes. Granted, I’m sure many would move voluntarily if US states and Canadian provinces self-segregated along ideological lines, but what you’re proposing sounds awfully authoritarian to me and would give the central government far, far more power than I’d be comfortable with in practice.
In practice, it may not work in the long run, but there's a growing trend of people from other provinces wanting to move to Alberta because of the recent victory of Danielle Smith. However, there are also a good chunk of people from out of the provinces that move to Alberta and bring their woke dead weight ideas to them.

To be honest, we have definitely reached a point where we could no longer tolerate living peacefully with certain types of people that only one or two years ago, are cheering for excluding certain unwanted peoples from society for not getting on with the jab program, and for brutally cracking down on the Freedom Convoy. Playing niceties with such woke dead weight is the reason why the Conservatives constantly lose to the deranged Lib-NDP coalition.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
In practice, it may not work in the long run, but there's a growing trend of people from other provinces wanting to move to Alberta because of the recent victory of Danielle Smith. However, there are also a good chunk of people from out of the provinces that move to Alberta and bring their woke dead weight ideas to them.

To be honest, we have definitely reached a point where we could no longer tolerate living peacefully with certain types of people that only one or two years ago, are cheering for excluding certain unwanted peoples from society for not getting on with the jab program, and for brutally cracking down on the Freedom Convoy. Playing niceties with such woke dead weight is the reason why the Conservatives constantly lose to the deranged Lib-NDP coalition.

Sorry to hear that.

Upon reflection, I might’ve come across as a bit snooty when using the term “Stalinist”, for which I apologize. Even so, can’t say I’m comfortable with mass-coercion to solve the problems you describe, despite how that’s inevitably how more and more people will feel — and eventually, start acting on in more “concrete” terms. Seems everywhere is going to pot as the Center falls apart at the seams, really. 😔
 

Jormungandr

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In practice, it may not work in the long run, but there's a growing trend of people from other provinces wanting to move to Alberta because of the recent victory of Danielle Smith. However, there are also a good chunk of people from out of the provinces that move to Alberta and bring their woke dead weight ideas to them.

To be honest, we have definitely reached a point where we could no longer tolerate living peacefully with certain types of people that only one or two years ago, are cheering for excluding certain unwanted peoples from society for not getting on with the jab program, and for brutally cracking down on the Freedom Convoy. Playing niceties with such woke dead weight is the reason why the Conservatives constantly lose to the deranged Lib-NDP coalition.
This I do have to agree with.

On the one hand, most of the Left are, well, hopelessly Woke and batshit insane. "They cannot be reasoned with. They cannot be bargained with. And they absolutely will. not. stop... until you and your children are dead/subsumed."

That's not including the rich wanting a modern day caste system/serfdom, anarchists, fascists, communists, Kiddie-Fuckers and Mutilators/Groomers United, and Black Power movements (AntiFa, BLM, general and casual Black American racism to everyone else, et cetera), mind.

On the other hand, you've got the more crazy religious and Right-wing elements stirring shit up too (especially the Bible Nuts), but they're a minority compared to the Left and everyone else with common sense and sanity (which includes most of the Right).

The ideological divide is basically terminal, by this point.
 

hyperspacewizard

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On the other hand, you've got the more crazy religious and Right-wing elements stirring shit up too (especially the Bible Nuts), but they're a minority compared to the Left and everyone else with common sense and sanity (which includes most of the Right).
I’m curious can you point to a group or incident etc… just a couple of examples so I understand what your saying .Like when you talk about the left I have names of organizations, people, and programs that pop into my head but I’m drawing a blank on right wing elements like it’s the most fringe of the fringe with so little power or influence its barely worth talking about
 
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Jormungandr

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It's mostly fringe and grassroot elements on the Right side of things, such as Evangelicalists, certain protests especially/mostly where abortion is concerned (protests there can get pretty radical at times), stuff I've come across on various bits of soc-med in passing (Quora is especially fascinating to see elements on both sides of the aisle rant and rave), and such -- very, very little when compared to the Left as a whole, but it's there.

It's also why I said most of the Right is pretty sane.
 

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