Star Wars The Mandalorian

Husky_Khan

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Season Three is here.

Almost through the first episode and Uhhh... They really invested in the "Humor" this episode. 🤨

I'm so interested in this episode I'm live posting about it while it's still playing.

Also these Pirates seem pretty cringeworthy. I hope they all die off screen.
 

Husky_Khan

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So regarding the rumors/reports they do mention Gina Caranos character by name in this episode. So be interesting to see if Cara Dune returns. I doubt they'd bother mentioning her if she wasn't going to come back.

If she does, it'll be a highlight of the season from the way things are looking IMHO.
 

Jormungandr

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MJ was slandered.

Freddy was bisexual.
Actually, FM was a hundred percent gay.

He tried to "make it work" with the woman in his life to appear "normal", but when they finally did call it quits because he was quite literally living a lie and it was tearing him apart mentally, she supported him as his best-friend/cover.

His dying of AIDS years later was fucking tragic, and the world was and still is worse off for his passing.
 

Sailor.X

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Season Three is here.

Almost through the first episode and Uhhh... They really invested in the "Humor" this episode. 🤨

I'm so interested in this episode I'm live posting about it while it's still playing.

Also these Pirates seem pretty cringeworthy. I hope they all die off screen.
I maintain there is fat chance of all Mandelorians following the dogma of The Watch. Din will see that when other Mandos say I am not keeping a Bucket on my head 24/7 around outsiders. And I hear that exact statement flying out of Sabine's mouth.
 
I maintain there is fat chance of all Mandelorians following the dogma of The Watch. Din will see that when other Mandos say I am not keeping a Bucket on my head 24/7 around outsiders. And I hear that exact statement flying out of Sabine's mouth.

Likely w
I maintain there is fat chance of all Mandelorians following the dogma of The Watch. Din will see that when other Mandos say I am not keeping a Bucket on my head 24/7 around outsiders. And I hear that exact statement flying out of Sabine's mouth.

I imagine the mandalorians will go through yet ANOTHER civil war and Din we decide that somtimes tradition means doing the same stupid stuff for too long.
 

Sailor.X

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Likely w


I imagine the mandalorians will go through yet ANOTHER civil war and Din we decide that somtimes tradition means doing the same stupid stuff for too long.
That could happen.
Or he'll bring them together.
That only happens if Din engages his Gray Matter and realizes He won the Darksaber in Martial Combat. In doing so He is Mandelore and outright out ranks the Armorer. Meaning he sets the rules not her. That and I think it will be revealed the Armorer was a follower of Maul.
 

Zachowon

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That could happen.

That only happens if Din engages his Gray Matter and realizes He won the Darksaber in Martial Combat. In doing so He is Mandelore and outright out ranks the Armorer. Meaning he sets the rules not her. That and I think it will be revealed the Armorer was a follower of Maul.
The helmet does make it seem that way
 

Bacle

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I think there is a good chance she is the woman with dark hair next to Saxon in this vid.



However, it sounds like the Children of the Watch as a group broke away from Mandalorian mainline culture before the Clone Wars, so maybe it is just a group he influenced via the Armour.

Oh course a new Mandalore being seated would be a Event of galactic importance, and that would bring the Empire and Rebels out into the open to engage, diplomatically or militarily, with the new leader of the Mandos.

I could see it being something that either draws Thrawn out, or happens after his defeat as a conclusion to a story arc.
 

Skallagrim

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Season Three is here.

And it's off to an underwhelming start.


Also these Pirates seem pretty cringeworthy. I hope they all die off screen.

Their ship is pretty cool, design-wise. Of course, now that our protagonist has gotten away from them in under a minute, it's been telegraphed to be less-than-threatening to the audience. Very poor writing. Could've done way more with that.


So regarding the rumors/reports they do mention Gina Caranos character by name in this episode. So be interesting to see if Cara Dune returns. I doubt they'd bother mentioning her if she wasn't going to come back.

Sounds more like they just gave her an "I must go, my planet needs me" type of exit.


I think there is a good chance she is the woman with dark hair next to Saxon in this vid.

Rook Kast? Would be pretty cool, actually. She'd have a major personal vendetta against both Bo-Katan and Ahsoka. Since last we saw her, she was captured after those two teamed up to defeat Maul's faction.


However, it sounds like the Children of the Watch as a group broke away from Mandalorian mainline culture before the Clone Wars, so maybe it is just a group he influenced via the Armour.

I can't be arsed to look it up again, but I think Bo-Katan said in this episode that the Children of the Watch "split off long before the destruction of Mandalore". But that destruction (by the Empire) happened after the events of Rebels.

So if we assume for a moment that Rook Kast escaped sometime after the Siege of Mandalore in 19 BBY, returned to the Death Watch stronghold on Concordia, and gathered her remaining fanatics to form the Children of the Watch... that would fit. And an attitude of "Maul Did Nothing Wrong" would fit her personality, too.

There was a brief snippet in one of the BoBF episodes where it was mentioned that the Children of the Watch believe that Bo-Katan somehow caused the destruction of Mandalore by accepting the Darksabre as a gift (seen in Rebels), instead of winning it in combat. Later, in The Mandalorian, we get hints that Bo-Katan believes this as well. (She refuses to accept the sabre from Din.) We also hear that the Children of the Watch survived the putge because they were "cloistered on Concordia".

So that all makes sense, as far as the time-line goes. Regardless of whether ms. spiky-helmet is actually Rook Kast, I do think that the Children of the Watch are the remnants of Maul's erstwhile loyalists among Death Watch.
 

Sailor.X

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I think there is a good chance she is the woman with dark hair next to Saxon in this vid.



However, it sounds like the Children of the Watch as a group broke away from Mandalorian mainline culture before the Clone Wars, so maybe it is just a group he influenced via the Armour.

Oh course a new Mandalore being seated would be a Event of galactic importance, and that would bring the Empire and Rebels out into the open to engage, diplomatically or militarily, with the new leader of the Mandos.

I could see it being something that either draws Thrawn out, or happens after his defeat as a conclusion to a story arc.

I am going with Children of the Watch............ Death Watch. Add in the fact that a Vizsla is follower of the Armorer practically cements they are the same as Death Watch.
 

Husky_Khan

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Their ship is pretty cool, design-wise. Of course, now that our protagonist has gotten away from them in under a minute, it's been telegraphed to be less-than-threatening to the audience. Very poor writing. Could've done way more with that.

Yeah the nerds on the internet were stating it was reminescent of the R-41 Starchaser which first made an appearance in the old Lucasarts TIE Fighter games which is pretty wild and neat.

But yes the Pirates were extremely poorly written. From their introduction to final evasion. They literally started a fight with the Greef Karga who I assume they know is a badass (gone soft or not) and a Mandalorian in full Beskar armor casually standing beside him because they insisted on having a drink inside of a school. :rolleyes:

I'm sure there is puffery within criminal organizations but the way the characters were written was made to be so obvious and devoid of nuance and subtlety as to be simplistic. And of course when they get their expected comeuppance, they do manage to ambush Mando with an overwhelming superiority of numbers and further prove their incompetence. They even bring in a capital ship... captained by some almost painfully typecast alien pirate (like if there is alien central casting, that is it) whose equally evaded. I wasn't sure if I liked the way it ended more with Mando just blitzing out of there with the known quality of his N-1 Fighter or the thought of such dullards actually managing to pull a Homer Simpson and capturing them.

My fear is that they'll be a recurring villain who'll eat up more time to show how formidable Din Djarin is, because... if you haven't noticed yet, he's actually pretty good.

The frustrating thing is better writing has existed in this show even for throwaway villains going back to the very first episode of this series with the mysterious 'The Client' (who got killed off like a clown) or the one off episode with the Imperial Magistrate with the Beskar staff and Michael Biehn as his underdeveloped right hand man. Like it's not hard making marginally interesting villains IMHO and setting them up as something more then cardboard targets.

It's so kiddish (especially with the forced Humor to boot) while the earlier seasons were merely Kid Friendly.
 

Bacle

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I am going with Children of the Watch............ Death Watch. Add in the fact that a Vizsla is follower of the Armorer practically cements they are the same as Death Watch.
Good point about Paz; he's a surviving Visla, that point's heavily to this being the remnant of Maul's Mando's.

Kinda surprised Bo-Katan would want to leave Rook, if it is her, and a surviving Visla to their own devices, if she knows of the group.
 

Zachowon

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Good point about Paz; he's a surviving Visla, that point's heavily to this being the remnant of Maul's Mando's.

Kinda surprised Bo-Katan would want to leave Rook, if it is her, and a surviving Visla to their own devices, if she knows of the group.
She might not know who all is still around from them
 

Sailor.X

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Good point about Paz; he's a surviving Visla, that point's heavily to this being the remnant of Maul's Mando's.

Kinda surprised Bo-Katan would want to leave Rook, if it is her, and a surviving Visla to their own devices, if she knows of the group.
Kind of what Zachowon just said. Bo-Katan may not know about who are all the current members of the Watch. After all she has only met Din in the modern time period.
 

ShadowArxxy

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I can't be arsed to look it up again, but I think Bo-Katan said in this episode that the Children of the Watch "split off long before the destruction of Mandalore". But that destruction (by the Empire) happened after the events of Rebels.



There was a brief snippet in one of the BoBF episodes where it was mentioned that the Children of the Watch believe that Bo-Katan somehow caused the destruction of Mandalore by accepting the Darksabre as a gift (seen in Rebels), instead of winning it in combat. Later, in The Mandalorian, we get hints that Bo-Katan believes this as well. (She refuses to accept the sabre from Din.) We also hear that the Children of the Watch survived the putge because they were "cloistered on Concordia".
The destruction of Mandalore is pretty directly indicated to be the direct Imperial retaliation for the open rebellion on Mandalore that was sparked in Rebels Season 3 and 4.

So it kind of *is* Bo-Katan’s fault, but it has nothing to do with her not following Mandalorian traditions. Rather, it is because she was stupidly naive enough to believe that the Alliance to Restore the Republic would *ever* help defend Mandalore when the Republic had always been a hostile power, to the point of having canonically actually attempted genocide against Mandalore *during peacetime* in the past. The Alliance hung Mandalore out to dry almost immediately, the unopposed Imperial counterattack pretty much wiped out the Mandalorians, and you’ll notice that Moff Gideon seems awfully alive for someone supposedly convicted and executed for war crimes by the New Republic.
 

Husky_Khan

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and you’ll notice that Moff Gideon seems awfully alive for someone supposedly convicted and executed for war crimes by the New Republic.

Only Din Djarin stated that he thought it likely that Moff Gideon would be executed by the New Republic IIRC. I don't recall Cara Dune, the only New Republic representative there, stating he'd be executed. She prevented him from killing himself because she wanted him specifically for interrogation.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Only Din Djarin stated that he thought it likely that Moff Gideon would be executed by the New Republic IIRC. I don't recall Cara Dune, the only New Republic representative there, stating he'd be executed. She prevented him from killing himself because she wanted him specifically for interrogation.
No, I mean Gideon was supposedly *already* executed. Din mentions it in Season 1, saying it should have been impossible for it to be Gideon.
 

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