AnimalNoodles
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I've heard stuff about poa.st on the fediverse. I avoid social media so i cant comment on whether its good or not,
United States The Glowie Infestation: No Longer a Fringe Excuse
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I've heard stuff about poa.st on the fediverse. I avoid social media so i cant comment on whether its good or not,
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
So Patriot Front apparently did another march, in Chicago of all places, to join up with a Pro Life march. Which is interesting as it would provide SOME substance to their "conservatism" and give a sign of what they actually stand for. Except, as you might expect, it was all very... sus.
Pro-lifers confront PF, seem unhappy to have them around
A vague statement, really vague, what bullshit? The museum?
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't taping over license plates illegal to do? Wouldn't cops pull you over ASAP if they see you driving with a taped over license plate? Interesting how Chicago PD is just letting them get away with it...
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479931520215576576
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479932888623816713
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479932888623816713
Apparently they just took videos, and simply let the blatant traffic violation and ground for easy money for a city near bankruptcy drive away... Orders to not interfere? Wouldn't do to have your provocateurs caught by the cops again now would it D.C.?
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479976934901792774
Pro-lifers confront PF, seem unhappy to have them around
A vague statement, really vague, what bullshit? The museum?
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't taping over license plates illegal to do? Wouldn't cops pull you over ASAP if they see you driving with a taped over license plate? Interesting how Chicago PD is just letting them get away with it...
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479931520215576576
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479932888623816713
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479932888623816713
Apparently they just took videos, and simply let the blatant traffic violation and ground for easy money for a city near bankruptcy drive away... Orders to not interfere? Wouldn't do to have your provocateurs caught by the cops again now would it D.C.?
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1479976934901792774
AnimalNoodles
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remember, rightwingers are supposed to be fat, stupid and disorganised. Only the feds are capable of being in shape, buying some matching clothes, making some simple shields and marching together.
And why would random rightwingers decide to do specifically that, while being more vague about their politics than the average political facebook group (or even the wordpress blog of one teenage activist in that group), and committing minor traffic violations on camera?
AnimalNoodles
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If they were feds they would be actively trying to get people arrested by creating manifestos full of calls for violence. they would be getting into brawls, making explosives and walking around like retards with assault rifles. If you want to see how a fedop actually works, look at atomwaffen, the base or those guys accused of trying to kidnap Whitmer.
Peacefully marching around in matching clothes while being fit doesnt accomplish any of that. Again, conservatives are so demoralised they cannot comprehend a group of people being in shape marching in good order with matching clothes. Real conervatives are fat slobs spewing jibberish about 1776, shaking their ar-15s, milling about, self doxxing themselves and getting into brawls with methheads.
Which is why i said the usual feds aren't necessarily the only organization, state or non-state, who may want a pet fake right wing movement.
Which is part of the suspicion. They go to such lengths to do their marching (which looks surprisingly fitting to how an idiot CNN journo would imagine a much dreaded and awaited *bad people* march to look, which in turn means it is no surprise that they talk about it more than right wingers) and their "image" focus in general...
Yet for a group so tightly organized, they do surprisingly little in very obvious areas like, say, explaining wtf are they about politically, nevermind arguing for that on the internet, something all sorts of political movements, left to right, serious to joke, do these days.
Come on, they got CNN to talk about them, but they aren't capitalizing on that at all, in right wing infosphere they still are more known for the front than the patriot part, and they are doing absolutely nothing to dispel that notion. So either it hits too close to home, or they are trolling everyone and keeping everyone guessing is part of the plan.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Strawman harder.
The overwhelming focus on this thread has been 'They have a very ambiguous ideology and they don't express any political stances clearly, just vague-sounding stuff that fits leftist stereotypes about scary pseudo-fascist right-wingers.'
If their leader(s) and website clearly and aggressively expressed constitutional values, support for limited government, a decisively clear pro-life position, lower taxes, etc, we'd think it much less likely they were glowies.
Instead they have collectivist-sounding crap on their website with overtones of white nationalism, which has nothing to do with conservative values.
It has been very clearly expressed to you that this is key to why they seem suspicious to us. Either address the point, or keep coming across as someone who just wants an excuse to bitch at people on the internet.
Bear Ribs
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Complete strawman. Nobody ever said "they're not fat," they said "They all have identical body types." Which is the case. Just take a look at the Proud Boys march:
Clearly, they made an effort to color coordinate and most of them look healthy, but they're not all of the same age, same height, same haircut, same clean-shaven look common to feds. They also include a fair number of women and minorities while fedops will typically stick very strictly to white males in order to make the group look more racist and sexist, which the Patriot Front does. Could such a well-organized, well-funded, well-equipped group really not manage to find a single black or Hispanic person who shared their values? Why not? Do beards and long hair that aren't regulation for feddies also somehow prevent a person from deciding to join the Patriot Front? Peculiar. Does the Patriot Front believe that walking for fifteen minutes is too strenuous for women so they shun them? That's rather strange.
And that's without getting into the main objection most people have, their bizarrely mealy-mouthed and nonsensical "goals" which appear to consist entirely of soundbites with no substance and no actual position.
AnimalNoodles
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Complete strawman. Nobody ever said "they're not fat," they said "They all have identical body types." Which is the case. Just take a look at the Proud Boys march:
Clearly, they made an effort to color coordinate and most of them look healthy, but they're not all of the same age, same height, same haircut, same clean-shaven look common to feds. They also include a fair number of women and minorities while fedops will typically stick very strictly to white males in order to make the group look more racist and sexist, which the Patriot Front does.
Could such a well-organized, well-funded, well-equipped group really not manage to find a single black or Hispanic person who shared their values? Why not? Do beards and long hair that aren't regulation for feddies also somehow prevent a person from deciding to join the Patriot Front? Peculiar. Does the Patriot Front believe that walking for fifteen minutes is too strenuous for women so they shun them? That's rather strange.
And that's without getting into the main objection most people have, their bizarrely mealy-mouthed and nonsensical "goals" which appear to consist entirely of soundbites with no substance and no actual position.
1) Patriot front explicitly rejects the slob/biker wannabe look of groups like the III%ers and proudboys. Thier uniform is descended from the uniform for groups like Identity Europa and Vanguard America
2) Patriot front has no women or non-whites in it because they do not recruit women and non-whites. They do not care if they appear racist oir sexist as those are concepts and terms defined by the opposition and used as control mechanisms.
3) Patriot front has fitness and appearance requirements to march. You can join if you fat, but you are required to follow a fitness regime and cannot march if you are obese
4) The leader of Patriot Front has a beard. He is open faced and fully doxxed and doesnt need to mask. Most do not have large beards because its annoying to fit a balaclava over a large beard.
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AnimalNoodles
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There is nothing ambiguous at all about what they believe. They dont espouse your conservative policies because they arent conservatives and dont work with conservatives.
Responds to point about ambiguity on their website with ambiguity on this website.
Fine, then quote me their positions on some definitely current and much discussed by general public political matters like:
-Preferred presidential candidate
-Climate policy
-COVID policy, especially vax passports and mandates
-China trade policy
-Public schooling and its curriculum
Its not that they don't espouse conservative policies, its that they neither espouse them nor argue against them, nor even stake out some weird alternative of their own. They just don't talk politics much, which is very odd for a political movement. They only happen to sometimes let the public know of a specific policy, when they do its by show rather than tell, so you can keep guessing until your issue of choice becomes their pick for an op, when they happen to take some stickering or marching action in favor of it. Yet once they pick something, its either something one would expect from stereotypical badwhites like vaguely whining about Israel, or indeed boomer tier conservatism like "drugs bad" or "abortion bad".
Its almost as if they were trying to imply a connection between the above two view types, yet avoiding inserting themselves into more current political debates or more complicated topics.
They are like a TV drama whose script was written few years ago and they had neither time nor funds to adjust all the details to feel more natural, reacting to the unforseen events and changes in political world, so obviously they couldn't get too specific about anything.
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Bear Ribs
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Well okay then, since they're not ambiguous and you have such understanding, perhaps you can clear up some questions I wasn't smart enough to figure out.
Which political candidates do they endorse? Which ones are they vehemently against?
Which specific laws do they oppose, and what laws do they want to have passed?
Which religions are they for and against? Not just a vague "Christianity," do they support Catholocism? Methodism? Voodoo?
Are they for vegetarianism? Do they eat meat? How about the environment, climate change?
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Mmm hmm. How almighty convenient that they have all these restrictions that just happen to make them look like a fedop. How do you happen to know all these things which are nowhere to be found in their manifesto or website? And while we're at it, give me some citations for all of them.
I saw this noted in the tweets Sobek posted, but it was pretty nice that the law enforcement didn't seem to care about the taped over license plates of their private vehicles since they apparently didn't want to do the whole U-Haul thing this time around.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
I am also intrigued that Animal is refusing to address that point.
Why would the Chicago Police let go of such a quick source of some desperate needed cash? It's a super explicit traffic violation that makes them stand out very obviously. It's highly sus no one seemed to do their job.
As for the complete uniformity of their bodies and builds, I actually have a theory: The FBI is full of competent agents who meet all the criteria to get a job but can't because the diversity quotas mean no white men, this job has to go to a black man, this one to a white woman, this one to a Asian... So they have a bunch of people passed up for promotion or job because of wrong skin color on the new Diverse and Equitable FBI. Then some smart cookie realizes how they can be used as Glowies, and boom: The agents get a job and the higher ups get their straw-man opponent.
Anyways here's a nice story about the CHAZ Saga that occurred in Seattle a while ago and how the Seattle Police really went above and beyond in not doing their jobs, but the Leftists jobs.
So why aren't they quoting Enoch Powell? Or Erryl Barrow or hell, any number of the American right wing or Japanese nationalist/imperialist leaders that right wing groups quote?
What sort of moron claims to be interested in restoring America to its preeminent height but is a nordicist?
Northern Europeans stopped having fuck all to do with America's founding by the 1720s when they got absorbed by the fake celts aka the Ulster Scots and the Angloids.
No self respecting right wing militia anywhere in the Americas gives a shit about nordicism outside of Paraguay and with lone exception none ever have.
That's the purview of skinheads and neo Nazis and the Aryan brotherhood. All groups for which profiting off the drug trade takes priority over their ideology.
Or here.
Lemme rephrase it
What part of "Nordicism is not nor ever has been a priority among the hard right in the Americas it's always been about tradition, family and exterminating subversive thinkers. The groups that priotizie snow ape supremacy have ways been seen as heretics who threaten their pan americanism mindset and thus a fringe which only makes this group look even weirder" do you not understand?
Even the neoconfederates reject Nordicism.
They don't, see Charles Manson, Whitey Bulger, Timothy McVeigh and Eric Harris and Dylan klebold for examples of FBI puppets gone off the rez.
Or the entirety of AIM. Which at one point literally got an FBI handler to give up his fellow agents for a piece of ass.
Because it's not enough the Indian-Nazi-commie-Mafia group you created evolved beyond your control but you had to become SIMPs for their female members as well
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