Sergeant Foley
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Hmm NOPE!
The Coming Polish-Belarusian War
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Hmm NOPE!
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I recall him mentioning shortly after the war began, that he had financial investments in Russia which tanked after the war and sanctions set in.
Take that with a grain of salt though, this is me remembering something he posted more than a year ago, and I sure as heck am not going to bother thread-diving to find the motivation behind his personal delusions.
He was bragging that he was making bets on Ukraine falling in a certain amount of days IIRC with some friends.
Well, that aged badly.
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
I think that I have outlined all of that already.
The reasons are multiple, and more complex than "Ree Putler Fanboi"
1. Multipolarism and balance of power, I am a big proponent of that, since I dislike the stupid US-led hegemony.
Frankly, only through external competition between the slimy oligarchic blocks can some actual freedom and progress be achieved and neo-feudalism be staved off, in my opinion.
2. "Muh Democracy" is something I do not believe in, Republic with checks and balances - sure.
Limited voting based on actual property ownership and paying taxes - much better.
Capitalism - hell yes.
This moronic "muh democracy" globalist, crony capitalist neo liberal bullshit - no thanks.
This shit does not work, Gaetano Mosca and Vilfredo Pareto and James Burnham and Sam Francis have explained why that shit doesn't work and why democracy is a sham:
Also see the "most bestest fortified covid elections ever" as an example.
3. The USA and the EU have turned into fat, bureaucratic-run leeches where size and first mover advantage and cronyism and account for everything, run by perverts, tyrants and degenerate, power hungry scum that wants to block all competition and oppress any dissent of the ruling oligarchy and professional managerial class.
Having uneducated, short attention span cowardly Das Man hordes obsessed with twitter is more advantageous to them.
I see anything that they want as something that must be denied them, if they want Ukraine, then Ukraine must be torn to bits and covered with radioactive salt.
4. The EU's further expansion is something I see as a way for it to justify more central control, more unellected, unaccountable, uncontrollable supra-national bureaucracy etc, and the oligarchy over there will be happy.
Furthermore, an extra "captive market" and human resource pool there will let the EU kick the can down the road economically.
5. From a purely economic presective, Russia was a source of cheap energy and materials, and a buyer of our goods and services, we lost that.
6. The USA wants to fuck over the EU, because as much as they are the two sides of a neoliberal coin the EU is a sort of competitor and the USA always had a negative trade balance with it, now like some fat leech it is sucking out industries from Europe.
7. The very important cultural aspect.Russia, Ukraine, other Slavic Orthodox countries can all be seen as descendants of the medieval Bulgarian Orthodox Cyrilic using culture.
Since individualism is mostly a sham and humans are for the most part naked, collectivist chimps I want to strengthen what I see as my group and kick back the greedy hyenas away from it, ones that have trying to pounce whenever that ethno-cultural-linguistic group has been down, like the Polish papists, the Baltic shitstans, the Swedes, the Turks, etc.
All those people have treid to push their culture and religion upon the Eastern Slavs, and I do not want them to succeed.
They are butthurt to this day, if you haven't noticed the Bornepapagal.
8. The help the Russian provided us during the Bulgarian liberation from the Turks, and their supporters, the British, French and in some cases Poles and Baltic Shittistanis.
In any case, I am sick and tired of this bullshit, and 'Murika, fuck yeah/muh freedumb' is to the (American) right what CRT and Gender/LGBTQ choppadictomy nonsense are to the left.
9. I view Ukraine as something similar to Macedonia, a sham invented by the Krauts during WWI and then expanded by the USSR commie scum for their own purpose, with land taken from Russia proper and given to Ukraine by force.This is more decommunization, and Russia has historic and legitimate claims to part of that land backed by the existence of the Russian minority there, which the Ukronazis were trying to suppress and genocide.
Now, if you wish to proceed with this discussion we can do so in PMs.
10. Having the Debil Zov Sliva usrana appreciators broken and destroyed and listening to their lamentations.
Yo @Free-Stater 101 mind permabanning me from this thread?
Do the same with the other Russia-related threads.
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Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
Your lack of history education does not concern me, or the fact that you don't understand that civilizations and countries work on cycles, sometimes flourishing and sometimes falling, and sometimes turning into orwellian degenerate shitholes.
Or that you think that the sun rises out of the West/the Pope/Poshpolita's ass.
Reeing plus no relevant content, as per usual.
The fact that you are asking that question shows you are either too stupid to understand the situation or just trying to troll.
And if you haven't noticed I post quite a lot in those sections, as opposed to you, who just rees about muh russia.
However, I can post wherever and whatever I want, as long as it is OK with the TOS, I just despise wannabe tinpot dictators and their sycophants, and giving your little echochamber of idiocy a nice smack with the big sledgehammer is both fun and healthy.
If anything, having your oversized ego deflated a bit might be very good for you, too, as would understanding that this is just the fucking internet, and that in the grand scheme of things you and your silly sycophants do not matter.
But, I shall never turn a full of himself autistic prick nobody obsessed with getting somebody else to fight his grudge wars for him into something normal, so I prefer to not deal with the stench by not touching the shit.
And frankly, you are like a low quality, discount, diet version of MJ12 from SB from back in the good old days.
Same attitude.
@LordSunhawk @Emperor Tippy mind banning me from this thread and the Russia-Ukraine politics one permanently?
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I think that I have outlined all of that already.
The reasons are multiple, and more complex than "Ree Putler Fanboi"
1. Multipolarism and balance of power, I am a big proponent of that, since I dislike the stupid US-led hegemony.
Frankly, only through external competition between the slimy oligarchic blocks can some actual freedom and progress be achieved and neo-feudalism be staved off, in my opinion.
2. "Muh Democracy" is something I do not believe in, Republic with checks and balances - sure.
Limited voting based on actual property ownership and paying taxes - much better.
Capitalism - hell yes.
This moronic "muh democracy" globalist, crony capitalist neo liberal bullshit - no thanks.
This shit does not work, Gaetano Mosca and Vilfredo Pareto and James Burnham and Sam Francis have explained why that shit doesn't work and why democracy is a sham:
Also see the "most bestest fortified covid elections ever" as an example.
3. The USA and the EU have turned into fat, bureaucratic-run leeches where size and first mover advantage and cronyism and account for everything, run by perverts, tyrants and degenerate, power hungry scum that wants to block all competition and oppress any dissent of the ruling oligarchy and professional managerial class.
Having uneducated, short attention span cowardly Das Man hordes obsessed with twitter is more advantageous to them.
I see anything that they want as something that must be denied them, if they want Ukraine, then Ukraine must be torn to bits and covered with radioactive salt.
4. The EU's further expansion is something I see as a way for it to justify more central control, more unellected, unaccountable, uncontrollable supra-national bureaucracy etc, and the oligarchy over there will be happy.
Furthermore, an extra "captive market" and human resource pool there will let the EU kick the can down the road economically.
5. From a purely economic presective, Russia was a source of cheap energy and materials, and a buyer of our goods and services, we lost that.
6. The USA wants to fuck over the EU, because as much as they are the two sides of a neoliberal coin the EU is a sort of competitor and the USA always had a negative trade balance with it, now like some fat leech it is sucking out industries from Europe.
7. The very important cultural aspect.Russia, Ukraine, other Slavic Orthodox countries can all be seen as descendants of the medieval Bulgarian Orthodox Cyrilic using culture.
Since individualism is mostly a sham and humans are for the most part naked, collectivist chimps I want to strengthen what I see as my group and kick back the greedy hyenas away from it, ones that have trying to pounce whenever that ethno-cultural-linguistic group has been down, like the Polish papists, the Baltic shitstans, the Swedes, the Turks, etc.
All those people have treid to push their culture and religion upon the Eastern Slavs, and I do not want them to succeed.
They are butthurt to this day, if you haven't noticed the Bornepapagal.
8. The help the Russian provided us during the Bulgarian liberation from the Turks, and their supporters, the British, French and in some cases Poles and Baltic Shittistanis.
In any case, I am sick and tired of this bullshit, and 'Murika, fuck yeah/muh freedumb' is to the (American) right what CRT and Gender/LGBTQ choppadictomy nonsense are to the left.
9. I view Ukraine as something similar to Macedonia, a sham invented by the Krauts during WWI and then expanded by the USSR commie scum for their own purpose, with land taken from Russia proper and given to Ukraine by force.This is more decommunization, and Russia has historic and legitimate claims to part of that land backed by the existence of the Russian minority there, which the Ukronazis were trying to suppress and genocide.
Now, if you wish to proceed with this discussion we can do so in PMs.
10. Having the Debil Zov Sliva usrana appreciators broken and destroyed and listening to their lamentations.
Yo @Free-Stater 101 mind permabanning me from this thread?
Do the same with the other Russia-related threads.
1,2,3,4 - mostly agree.
5.Russia is long dead,kgbstan.And they sell cheap to fuck us later.
6.Optymist,Biden want EU taken by germans.
7.Optymist.It coud be true,but for Moscov all orthodox countries always would be vassals at best,and new provinces at worst.
About polish papists - we do not care about that anymore.
8.Yep,Russia liberated your country.ANOTHER REASON FOR HATING KGB MAFIA which cosplay as long-dead Russia.
Becouse KGB mafia did notching for anybody except themselves.
9.Not true,ukrainians as nation were created by austrians after 1848,to counter poles,not Russia.
But - now THEY are nation who fight for their country.When Russia is long dead,that is why nobody tried stop Progożyn from taking Rostow.
You cry for something which no longer exist.
10.Why care? i do not even knew who they are.
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stephen the barbarian
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in moderation that would be reasonable, but he takes it way to far.
but back on topic, this is distraction to make the Poles focused on Belarus and not the Ukraine. Right now it's unlikely the Ukrainians can push the Russians out of the disputed territories prior to the 2024 US presidential election. with the full support of the Poles the math changes.
Idk, I think there is a chance they could
No,it could not.Even if we gave ukraine all our weapons,it would be still not enough - mainly becouse 500+ tanks/that much we have now/ and about 80 planes would change notching there.
Only USA could change that.
Aside from that - considering that Ukraine still do not agreed to made cementaries for 200.000+ polish cyvilians tortured to death by UPA,i do not belive that we should gave them anytching now.
Logically,only reason for supporting Ukraine was fear of powerfull Moscov army.Now,when we see how powerpuff they are,we could forget about them.
Lithuania closed two border posts with Belarus.
Latvia and the other Baltic States are reportedly moving military forces closer to the border in response to the ongoing Belarussian/Wagner LARP.
Latvia and the other Baltic States are reportedly moving military forces closer to the border in response to the ongoing Belarussian/Wagner LARP.
Not unexpected reactions.
Huh... Apparently Belarus has modified some of their D-30 Howitzers to operate autonomously, independent of requiring an actual artillery crew.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
So… given the subject matter, what would an actual Polish-Belarusian War actually look like?
My best guess is it'd be a replay of the Cambodian-Vietnamese War, with a cocky (but militarily incompetent) Belarus as our "Cambodia" taking a crack at invading its neighbors — only to be repelled by a wary, well-armed Poland as our "Vietnam" that counter-invades its attackers.
Wagner Group shenanigans aside, I suppose the big wildcard here is Russia itself. Essentially, it'd serve as "China" in this analogy, being the oversized Big Cheese of the region that astroturfs the diminutive loony (again, Belarus as "Cambodia") in this conflict.
My best guess is it'd be a replay of the Cambodian-Vietnamese War, with a cocky (but militarily incompetent) Belarus as our "Cambodia" taking a crack at invading its neighbors — only to be repelled by a wary, well-armed Poland as our "Vietnam" that counter-invades its attackers.
Wagner Group shenanigans aside, I suppose the big wildcard here is Russia itself. Essentially, it'd serve as "China" in this analogy, being the oversized Big Cheese of the region that astroturfs the diminutive loony (again, Belarus as "Cambodia") in this conflict.
Not going to happen.Łukaszenka knew,that no matter who win,he would lost power.