The Coming Polish-Belarusian War
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Agent23
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If this is about Lukcho trolling you and threatening you with Wagner then I actually have a bridge in Ukraine to sell you that is part of my ancient Bulgar heritage.Well then i guess if that's the eastern understanding of how acts of war work, Poland needs to take a page from history and at least formally privatize its effort to liberate Belarus, and form a PMC to do it.
Then by your standard Belarus or Russia will be the aggressor to retaliate against Poland for hosting the PMC liberating Belarus, and so article 5 will be invoked
In any case, you have been the people that have been trying, on your own, with the help of your various buddies in the USA, GB and the Baltic toiletbowl, to destabilize Belarus and do a color revolution there...
Do you simp for all dictators or just the Russia allied ones?If this is about Lukcho trolling you and threatening you with Wagner then I actually have a bridge in Ukraine to sell you that is part of my ancient Bulgar heritage.
In any case, you have been the people that have been trying, on your own, with the help of your various buddies in the USA, GB and the Baltic toiletbowl, to destabilize Belarus and do a color revolution there...
If they didn't want us to destabilize their satrapies they should not have been buying up influential politicians in our western neighbor, two can play at cheeky games like that.
Buba
A total creep
Who potato man? AFAIK that term used by German media for the Chairman of Chairmen - A Thousand Blessings be Upon HIM - Kaczyński?
Yeah, I am sure that Germany and France and a few other countreis will be happy to back Poland in an aggressive war with a Russian ally, especially since Poland has created so much trouble for them in recent years.
Believe what you want to believe just know that regardless of what RT News says the rest of the world doesn't have the same line of thinking.
Your point?
Ah yes yet another pointless deflection, bottom line as usual remains unchanged.
Yes, embezzlement in corruption happens but the amounts were trivial in the grand scheme of things, also Iraq didn't collapse due to lack of fund being funneled into the country, but because Islamic fundamentalist don't give a shit about anything other than getting a harem in the afterlife and screwing the jews .
Sounds like something a leftist would say when they are asked how communism will succeed this go around and despite being so lazy you will respond to this post in a vein effort to get last word in while giving half the effort of the last attempt.
We won't need to promote a western backed candidate, merely let them do so naturally. After all, even before a new government is formed, we would prohibit the formation of any future Russian-Belorussian economic cooperation until their war with Ukraine is ended and beyond that ban any military alliance in perpetuity with Russia and a pro eastern candidate in Ukraine is relegated to just being person promoting appeasement.
Thats the price you pay for losing a war.
Agent23
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Do you simp for all idiot interventionalism, or just the type that can make Pozdpolita a thing again/quench your Russia hate boner and inferiory complex?
And I am oh so very respective of Lukcho by calling him Lukcho, of course.
Yeah, cause CNN is much less of a politicized, biased rag, I am sure.
Lukcho might want to fuck over Poland for them pushing regime change in his country and for the Ukraine situation, but he is not suicidal.
Here is the thing, not everyone likes the west or wants to simp for it, or didn't the Arab spring where you murikan buffoons were simping for muh democracy and the locals ended up electing islamists clue you in on that fact.
As to Zelyo, do I have to remind you that his initial platform was to end the war and give the Russian minority the authonomy they wanted.
And where is the democracy in Saudi Arabia again?
Oh, yeah, they pay you off not to bother them.
Come to think of it Kachinski does look a bit like one.
So potatos onions, hots of maybe nuclear heat and some oil from your good friends the Russians and we get a great oven dish out of what we have.
Your obsession about much western interventionism hit you so bad you can't even spell it.Do you simp for all idiot interventionalism, or just the type that can make Pozdpolita a thing again/quench your Russia hate boner and inferiory complex?
No, the West and Poland have zero duty to let Russia build an empire on its borders without interference, no muh interventionism shit here, go be a hippy in America or something, this isn't some shit in a shithole on another continent, it is literally on our borders, it absolutely is our business.
Your servility complex for Muscovites is showing....
Ah, so it's not personal, it's for muh wannabe empire in Moscow.And I am oh so very respective of Lukcho by calling him Lukcho, of course.
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Agent23
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Lol, talk to my phone's autocorrect or lack thereof.
In all fairness, I spell better than Zach.
You do realize that Belarus literally means White Russia, right...
And that they have always had close relations with the Russians even after the fall of the USSR.
Poland doesn't have a vote here, neither do the baltic shitholes.
Oh, excuse me, should I rather be supporting your wannabe Rhchposhpolita revival/we wuz promethean power grab in central and eastern Yurup/anti-Russia revanchism?
Also, INB4 muh NAFOO, it is a defensive alliance that defends actual members, not an onahole for your rageboner or a tool for some form of democracy promotion/forcing a particular political system and block alignmnet globally or even in Yurup.
Nor is it a convenient paravan for you to hide your interference in your neighbors' affairs behind.
And that means jack shit for my point. It's still on our borders, and it doesn't matter what they call it. It wasn't called Belarus when we owned it lol.Lol, talk to my phone's autocorrect or lack thereof.
In all fairness, I spell better than Zach.
You do realize that Belarus literally means White Russia, right...
So fucking what?
If Russia gets a vote in Ukraine, we get a vote in Belarus.
Yeah, sure, not being a fanboy to Moscow and wanting it to respect sovereignty of other countries is a power grab and revanchism, got it.
Yeah, if it was actually forcing a particular political system, Erdogan would be history for one, and many problems that important people in Berlin and Washington have would follow into history.
It's only that in fever dreams of various malcontents, idiots and influence agents.
Oh my, where were you all the times when Russia interfered in neighbor's affairs?
Why do they get to do that regularly but you whine at us when we do anything?
You know what, i'm realizing isolationism is a great idea, it's so great i want all my enemies to practice it strictly and without exception. It's just such a great idea to try sell to countries you think are a pain in the ass for ya.
Agent23
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Only reason you "owned" it was because the Mongols and the Turks basically wrecked the Kievan Rus successor states.
And it was not you who owned it IIRC but the Lithuanians.
I mean, you can always try and invade and see how far you get.
And you kinda muscled in on the "vote" for Ukraine, by supporting the Yurupmegdan shit.
Well, parts of Russia and their populations were forcibly grafted onto the Ukrofrankenstein's monster, brought to you by zhe Germans, so yeah, I do support the restoration of Russian ethnic and territorial sovereignty.
Yup, I am sure the west and its media and financial institutions have nothing to do with some of Turkey's problems, or that the little coup against him and all the other megdan bullshit that happened was not aided by western NGOs and institutions.
However, Turkey is too big and powerful and close to the west to do the same shit to it that they did to Iraq.
are we talking about that war that Georgia started with the Russians now, or about the megdan bullshit again?
Or maybe you are pissed because they try to defend ethnic Russians from the nasty discrimination your buddies in the Baltostans are inflicting upon them?
No matter, none of those places are of any strategical importance and I don't give a damn about them.
Mmmm-Muskoovvv tried to organize a pro-Russian coup against the duck party in Poland/a megdan movement?
When?
Who were their supporters exactly, last I checked your communist party was, like 3 grannies?
Some isolationism would do a lot of good for Poland, maybe you can focus on improving your industries, retaining more people and bringing back valued cadres that went abroad and moving up the value chain in industry and technology.
Like maybe building some nuclear power plants, already.
And it is not like you can't promote the expansion of Polish trade and culture throughout the Slavic part of the EU.
You do have some interesting things to offer, but instead you are playing idiot games with the Russians and
Again, irrelevant. If historical events went a different way, there would be no Muscovite Russia overall, this isn't an alt history thread.
Poor Russian satraps, lemme get the world's smallest violin.I mean, you can always try and invade and see how far you get.
And you kinda muscled in on the "vote" for Ukraine, by supporting the Yurupmegdan shit.
Then let them fuck off and be sovereign in Russia.Well, parts of Russia and their populations were forcibly grafted onto the Ukrofrankenstein's monster, brought to you by zhe Germans, so yeah, I do support the restoration of Russian ethnic and territorial sovereignty.
Oh, you support territorial sovereignty? So how did Russians come to be in Crimea and Prussia and when are they leaving these places to their rightful owners?
LMAO, yeah, the watermelon seller is a great ruler, only West gives him problems
Counterpoint: Orban.
Besides, how is NATO supposed to be this forceful political system enforcer when it can't even enforce it among own members like Turkey?
And Iraq wasn't in NATO, again, fuck their particular dictator regardless, lol, i refuse to care about "muh interventionist" hippy outrage, fuck them, every decade NATO should be knocking down a at least one third world shithole that as much as offends it just to make the leftists rage and make third world respect it.
Yeah, sure, Georgians are crazy and invaded Russia, sure buddy, did you read that in Pravda?
Ah, so Russians are allowed to be like third world migrants who want to live in other countries and get special treatment and whine about muh discrimination, got it.
If they hate it so much, Russia has bad demographics, they can fuck off to live there, it's not like it's low on living space.
And speaking of multiculturalist whataboutism, what about ethnic Poles living in Siberia?
Can we go and do a referendum there?
Ah, but i do, and i know more about strategic importance of places than you with your Moscow simping, so sod off.
Yes.
New pro-Russia party emerges in Poland
A new pro-Russia party has emerged on the Polish scene, hoping, but not expected to, get 12 percent in the next election.
euobserver.com
Russia 'spent hundreds of millions' to influence elections in Europe
A new US intelligence report says the Kremlin spent $300 million since 2014 to try and influence several European countries using front companies and think tanks.
www.euronews.com
I repeat, isolationism is great, i want my enemies to practice it, i'm such a generous guy, just like you, we can come to an understanding on that topic as you seem to have exactly the same policy.
Just because their services are slumping down in competence doesn't mean the efforts and intents aren't there.
And we would need the antithesis of isolationism to succeed in any of these things.
North Korea has isolationism, look how great its industries are and how eager are people to return there.
Yes, and we are doing it with USA and SK, ironically.
But that would not be very isolationist.
And when Russians become isolationist we can think about it
Agent23
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Bronekokoshka, we have been over all this shit, over and over, as nauseam, in the various other threads.Again, irrelevant. If historical events went a different way, there would be no Muscovite Russia overall, this isn't an alt history thread.
Poor Russian satraps, lemme get the world's smallest violin.
Then let them fuck off and be sovereign in Russia.
Oh, you support territorial sovereignty? So how did Russians come to be in Crimea and Prussia and when are they leaving these places to their rightful owners?
LMAO, yeah, the watermelon seller is a great ruler, only West gives him problems
Counterpoint: Orban.
Besides, how is NATO supposed to be this forceful political system enforcer when it can't even enforce it among own members like Turkey?
And Iraq wasn't in NATO, again, fuck their particular dictator regardless, lol, i refuse to care about "muh interventionist" hippy outrage, fuck them, every decade NATO should be knocking down a at least one third world shithole that as much as offends it just to make the leftists rage and make third world respect it.
Yeah, sure, Georgians are crazy and invaded Russia, sure buddy, did you read that in Pravda?
Ah, so Russians are allowed to be like third world migrants who want to live in other countries and get special treatment and whine about muh discrimination, got it.
If they hate it so much, Russia has bad demographics, they can fuck off to live there, it's not like it's low on living space.
And speaking of multiculturalist whataboutism, what about ethnic Poles living in Siberia?
Can we go and do a referendum there?
Ah, but i do, and i know more about strategic importance of places than you with your Moscow simping, so sod off.
Yes.
New pro-Russia party emerges in Poland
A new pro-Russia party has emerged on the Polish scene, hoping, but not expected to, get 12 percent in the next election.Take this isolationist bullshit to people who know less.Russia 'spent hundreds of millions' to influence elections in Europe
A new US intelligence report says the Kremlin spent $300 million since 2014 to try and influence several European countries using front companies and think tanks.
I repeat, isolationism is great, i want my enemies to practice it, i'm such a generous guy, just like you, we can come to an understanding on that topic as you seem to have exactly the same policy.
Just because their services are slumping down in competence doesn't mean the efforts and intents aren't there.
And we would need the antithesis of isolationism to succeed in any of these things.
North Korea has isolationism, look how great its industries are and how eager are people to return there.
Yes, and we are doing it with USA and SK, ironically.
But that would not be very isolationist.
And when Russians become isolationist we can think about it
You want my answer, you got itz you just need to learn to read.
Or are you responding just so you can push your propaganda/because you are paid by the word?
However, your little comment about the "Alt history" is entertaining.
Let me put it this way, the Polish-Lithuanian latinized catholic elite would have been hard pressed to keep all those lands under their control and to continue oppressing the Cyrillic-Orthodox majority.
Your options would have been to:
a) Orthodoxize and/or Cyrillicize.
b) Get assimilated by the majority.
c)Watch your empire fall apart, Austria-Hungary or HRE style, probably with a 30 years war level big bang.
Now, there you have it.
Slavs started converting to Orthodoxy and using Cyrillic long before Poland was even a thing.
So in a bunch of alternate histories you would be contending with the great Empire of Bulgaria, rather than the Russians.
Remember, the same one you temp banned me for a day in the Alt history subfoeum because you were salty?
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Are you back writing in a loosely Russia related thread you're not banned from because you get paid by word for pushing your propaganda?Bronekokoshka, we have been over all this shit, over and over, as nauseam, in the various other threads.
You want my answer, you got itz you just need to learn to read.
Or are you responding just so you can push your propaganda/because you are paid by the word?
If "Russian world" is so great why aren't you moving to it, instead of plaguing us NATO assholes with your bullshit spewing presence?
Two can play at this game.
Agent23
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I fail to see how you trying to turn from a bronekokoshka into a bronepapagal (bronepapuga)is related to this thread, either.
Yes, Bronepapuga sounds like a lovely new nickname for you.
Your stinky onuc attempts at childish insults do not add any gravitas to your already badly aged and repetitive anti-western talking points.I fail to see how you trying to turn from a bronekokoshka into a bronepapagal is related to this thread, either.
Agent23
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Your forced simping for an increasingly degenerate, oligarchic and retarded west run by *studies graduates and special interests is quite laughable, and obvious pandering to the few simps here who still overdo it on the Murikah Special/Globalist liberal chest pumping/neoconitis sufferers.
We all know that you'd gladly throw them under the bus if you got someone to fight your wars with Russia for you more effectively.
Frankly, this conversation has, as always, degenersted into our usual shit throwing, immovable object vs. irresistible force situation.
While I, for one, find ridiculing your silly takes and showing you my absolute disdain for your opinions somewhat entertaining it brings jack shit to a discussion and gets old fast.
How about we agree to stop the shit flinging and let othe rpeople participate without subjecting them to 50 pages of us I dulting each-other?
I mean, this thread is very silly to begin with, and I have stated my opinion, and my opinion about your opinion, so that should be that.
Oh, and I do come here about the actual science fiction discussion and about making g fun of SJW-infested forums that deal with similar themes, I would rether not talk about this shit, it I wanted to do politics exclusively I would stay on Minds or GAB.
Dunno about you.
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Don't care, better than degenerate, oligarchic and retarded east. At least it was better, proving that it can be fixed. The east? That's the norm there.
Well if someone like that existed then world maps would be different and so we would be living in a different world, unfortunately we live in this one, not that one, so we have to deal with the cards on the table.
Wow, they are fighting a war with Russia for us, shit, where are the battles, where are the Tomahawks?
Agent23
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Newsflash dude, for almost 1000 years after the Tetrarchy the East was richer and more advanced than the West.
And history does not repeat but it often rhymes.
Captain obvious.
Thing is, we all know you are butthurt over the Russians taking away Poland's chance at being a great power.
Yup, still playing dumb.
They do not like you enough to start a nuclear war, obviously.No one likes obsessive compulsive polish irredentists that much, not even the majority of Poles.
I shall reiterate my precious proposition, since you did not see the edit.
LMAO, sorry, sell that shit to hippies, i'm not interested in drugs or bullshit, sure, and few thousands of years earlier Babylon was more advanced than anyone else so Iraq will soon make its star empire.
Yeah, sure, totally not about Russia exercising "muh great power rights" against us, nothing to do with that.Captain obvious.
Thing is, we all know you are butthurt over the Russians taking away Poland's chance at being a great power.
No, i'm responding appropriately to your hyperbolic propaganda talking points by mocking them.
So are they fighting a war with Russia for us or not? Make up your talking point and stick to it.
So what the fuck are you doing posting in political forums and threads, and posting such provocative views at that?
We even have nice categories exclusively for the kinds of content you claim to want, called