bintananth
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I wasn't going to bring up saggy tits ...
Mothers often have tits which aren't perky.
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Mothers often have tits which aren't perky.
bintananth
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I wouldn't call rockets a WWII 'nascent' technology. Liquid fueled rockets? Yeah, those were new. Solid fueled rockets? c800AD according to the Chinese*.
The Koreans had an MLRS called the Hwacha firing rocket powered arrows c1450AD. The earliest European experiments with multi-stage rockets were done by an Austrian named Conrad Haas in 1551.
* Chinese claims of "we did it first" are always suspect because the official Chinese versions of history are propaganda meant to make the Chinese look brilliant when compared to everyone elses foolish barbarism.
That was nascent rocket technology, more of a morale weapon and gimmicks than the city destroying artillery it has become in WW2. It's like comparing muskets to the Maxim gun. The general principle is the same, but the engineering involved and practical results are a completely different league.
bintananth
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The US National Anthem explicitly mentions rockets being used to provide nightime illumination over 200 years ago. When RMS Titanic was sinking her crew fired off signal rockets to let everyone nearby know that the ship was in distress. Using a loaded Hwacha was "we just sent a whole cloud of unpleasant 'gifts' addressed 'to whom it may concern' towards your unfriendly asses."
I wouldn't call any of those uses "nascent".
As for muskets? You and I could be standing on the opposite goal lines of an NFL field shooting at each other and neither of us would need to be all that worried about getting shot.
Congreve rocket - Wikipedia
Yes, they were nascent when it comes to use as an actual method of getting payloads to places, nevermind doing so accurately or at distance beyond visual range. They weren't nascent just for making smoke, fire and noise for all that was worth.
bintananth
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Rocket artillery has been a thing for quite some time as I pointed out when I brought up the Korean Hwacha.These kind of rocketsCongreve rocket - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Mostly as a morale weapon in several ways, with chances of igniting things. But as i said, it has about as much in common practically with the WW2 rocket artillery, nevermind first strategic rockets like V2, as muskets have with the Maxim gun.
bintananth
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Consider what they were facing, what they had access to, and what they were used for before you bring up commonality.
The rockets mentioned in "The Star Spangled Banner" have more in common with signal flares and the starshells fired from high-elevation guns during night battles than they do with modern rocket artillery.
To get somewhat back on topic ...
The M61 Vulcan is not derived from the Maxim gun in any way. It's derived from something older: a hand-cranked multi-barrel rotary cannon called a Gatling Gun capable of 200 rounds per minute.
Replace the hand crank with an electric motor and an 1860s Gatling Gun is capable of about 3,000 rounds per minute continuous without overheating.
Take them in the same calibers, and even Maxim gun is a decent enough competitor to even electric gatling guns, which wins being dependent on specific application. So no, those are still much closer.
Not so sure about that. There is a whole lot more engineering going into modern gatling guns than just that. There are reasons why they weren't used in WW2, despite many larger aircraft and AA emplacements having their own electric systems good enough to even rotate turrets.
bintananth
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General Electric actually pulled a Gatling Gun out of a museum and hooked it up to an electric motor when they were developing the M61.
An M61 runs out of ammo before it gets too hot to use.
bintananth
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Give me 1,000 Ashigaru equipped with Tanegashima Matchlocks c.10,000BC and I could probably conquer the entire world even though hitting someone 100yds away you're aiming at with a ball fired from one is random chance and sheer dumb luck.
That is not even remotely part of this scenario. Please pick a Nation in the past you want the forces listed and the equipment given to protect.
bintananth
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Ur, c3,800BC, and it wouldn't even be close to fair.
It is plenty fair.
1: It is a Defensive Force not Expeditionary.
2: They will only be there for 30 years
3: They will not be attacking the attacking Nations Capital or heart of their territory.
4: All combat operations will only take place in the country being protected.
5: Diplomacy is also on the table to give the enemy the option to just turn back.
bintananth
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Um, Ur was a nation-state back when stuff like reading and writing hadn't yet been invented.
Any enemies of Ur would understand that if you attack this place we will killy killy you. Especially if one raiding party gets yeeted out of existence by MA Deuce.
bintananth
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Ur didn't need 0.50" machine guns to say "don't fuck with us".
Dude just role with the scenario or make your own thread.
bintananth
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You posted a horribly implausible and awful Alt History scenario.