Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
But that takes work! Daddy Government should do those things like raising my kids and making sure I am safe and comfortable! /s
United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School
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But that takes work! Daddy Government should do those things like raising my kids and making sure I am safe and comfortable! /s
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
You're thinking "Assault Rifle" which is capable of automatic fire. "Assault Weapon" vaguely means "Gun that looks scary."
So, more details are emerging, and it's looking like the school lacked security or a SRO, and the cops failed to aggressively engage the shooter and actually stop him, until a team of border patrol agents arrived and actually killed him.
A lot of details are unclear, but the most plausible sounding version of events is the shooter entered the school unopposed, shoot a bunch of kids in a classroom and barricaded himself inside, then drove off the first wave of police responders. The shooter then stayed put for the rest of the incident, until the border patrol finally arrived and put him down.
It's doesn't appear that the police's failure gave him more time to keep shooting, but it's very possibly that the delay in getting medical attention to the wounded lead to additional deaths.
That said, this is based on putting thought fragments of a bunch of media reports from varying sources, so I can't say for sure this is what happened. It could be just as accurate as the "shooter was engaged by cops going in and was just unstoppablefor some reason, good guys with guns don't work hur dur" narrative that was getting pushed out yesterday.
A lot of details are unclear, but the most plausible sounding version of events is the shooter entered the school unopposed, shoot a bunch of kids in a classroom and barricaded himself inside, then drove off the first wave of police responders. The shooter then stayed put for the rest of the incident, until the border patrol finally arrived and put him down.
It's doesn't appear that the police's failure gave him more time to keep shooting, but it's very possibly that the delay in getting medical attention to the wounded lead to additional deaths.
That said, this is based on putting thought fragments of a bunch of media reports from varying sources, so I can't say for sure this is what happened. It could be just as accurate as the "shooter was engaged by cops going in and was just unstoppablefor some reason, good guys with guns don't work hur dur" narrative that was getting pushed out yesterday.
Robovski
Well-known member
Just retreat into their stations, collect their paychecks and let the street police itself like they do in Chiraq, Portland, San Fran, Baltimore and so on. Hiring practices are still too loose / lowest common denominator and decentralized to turn them into the KGB wannabes the 'Capitol Police' have become.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
As the guy points out, it's quite similar to the Parkland Shooting that gave us David Hogg and La Goblina. They ignored red flags (which would also mean that red flag laws wouldn't have stopped), responded horribly and now are muddling the water.
I wanna know who was the guy who actually did his job and shot the fucker. Seems very weird that it's been almost 48 hours and the hero hasn't shown up. Does the MSM hate border control that much? Or is it a case that he might speak some truths about the local police response I wonder...
I wanna know who was the guy who actually did his job and shot the fucker. Seems very weird that it's been almost 48 hours and the hero hasn't shown up. Does the MSM hate border control that much? Or is it a case that he might speak some truths about the local police response I wonder...
No lawsuit the cops were legally (and only legally) in the right. Which is why the worship of cops is a problem. They aren't sacred or heroes because of the uniform. People who risk their lives are heroes. Some cops risk their lives and protect people, and they are heroes for doing that, not for wearing a uniform.
Other cops do shit like this.
Ultimately, a cop is a person with a badge, and that's about it. They are just in a high stakes job where whether they've got it will out.
Lol, only he's white!
Nothing glowy needed. This is normal shittiness. Cops are scared, so they default to the easy thing of setting a perimeter, and waiting for someone else. Then when parents object, they maintain the perimeter.
Yeah the cops not doing their damn job isn't what glows about this. That's just par for the course for city cops. What does glow in the dark is the heavy veil around the shooter and the alleged online connections between him, the Bufallo guy and the FBI.
Ixian
Well-known member
I just had a sudden thought, so I'm going to throw this out here.
I predict that within the next few days the Uvalde Police Department will try and use the excuse of a "hostage situation" to explain why they didn't immediately enter the classroom.
The issue with this is that when you are standing outside and hear repeated gunshots and screaming kids you can no longer assume the "hostage taker" (read: mass shooter) is willing to negotiate, which is a hole in their story they will of course ignore.
I predict that within the next few days the Uvalde Police Department will try and use the excuse of a "hostage situation" to explain why they didn't immediately enter the classroom.
The issue with this is that when you are standing outside and hear repeated gunshots and screaming kids you can no longer assume the "hostage taker" (read: mass shooter) is willing to negotiate, which is a hole in their story they will of course ignore.
Ixian
Well-known member
Terrible idea, unless the parents all went home and came back as an armed mob, by which point the whole situation may well be long over, all a single person pulling their gun on those police officers would have gotten was arrested at best, shot and killed at worse.
So unless they had all been armed from the second they showed up, they never had a chance of getting to their children.
It's because people are conditioned (wrongly IMO) to believe cops are the good guys. Each one of those cops was the enemy at that point though. Imagine if they didn't have badges and they were civilians. We'd probably call them evil.
Those badges don't make them not evil. Stopping someone from trying to save the day is wrong. It's their body, their choice. The parents really couldn't have made it worse for anyone but themselves, and that's a risk they chose.
Arlos
Sad Monarchist
Honestly doesn’t matter if it’s a terrible idea, with the kids inside the school with an active shooter, being able to keep your cool when the cops are not only not going in, but actively stopping you from doing so isn’t really something I’d expect, it’s basically watching your kids being executed from the front row while the people supposed to protect you are keeping you at bay.