Oh, I think they are working on fixing that. Three dams gone, and all their "too little water" problems disappear like sugar in water.
Taiwan Straights Tension
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Taiwan says they will down rogue Chinese drones that fail to heed warnings when violating Taiwanese airspace.
Taiwan Says It Will Now Shoot Down Rogue Chinese Drones
After a string of embarrassing incursions by Chinese drones over its outlying islands, Taiwan has vowed to shoot them down, if necessary.www.thedrive.com
This comes after a flurry of Chinese drones, both military and civilian, have been spotted over the Taiwanese controlled islands close to the Chinese mainland.
Well that didn't take long at all...
Taiwan shoots down civilian drone over its island just off China's coastline
Taiwan shot down an unidentified civilian drone after it entered airspace over its Shiyu islet, just off China's coastline, amid tensions with China.
www.foxnews.com
They downed an unidentified civilian drone near a Taiwanese island just off the Chinese coast.
This is getting very unnerving.
This sort of stuff is a good way to smoke out AA sites for SEAD missions, using low cost measures.
If things have gotten so bad in the CCP that Xi is considering moving on parts of Taiwanese territory, and many distracted by the war in Ukraine...
I do not like the look of this at all.
This sort of stuff is a good way to smoke out AA sites for SEAD missions, using low cost measures.
If things have gotten so bad in the CCP that Xi is considering moving on parts of Taiwanese territory, and many distracted by the war in Ukraine...
I do not like the look of this at all.
TheRomanSlayer
Proud Anti-Catholic Bigot
Unlike Russia though, I don't think China would care at all about civilian casualties. To them, it's basically unfinished business from the Chinese Civil War.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
The CCP is an unstable authoritarian regime. It launching a war of conquest to regain legitimacy is a certainty.
This is actually why I view a Chinese invasion of Taiwan as being slightly/marginally more justified than a Russian invasion of Ukraine. As in, still not very justified at all, of course, but still a tiny bit more justified than what Russia is currently doing:
Specifically, with China and Taiwan, it's two countries who nominally have a claim to the entire territory of the same country. In other words, they're rival governments. It's similar to Korea and Vietnam. In contrast, the Ukrainian government has never actually claimed to be Russia's rightful government. So, while the China-Taiwan dispute could be classified as a civil war (albeit one where Taiwan is the good side, hence me obviously supporting Taiwan in this conflict), the Russo-Ukrainian War cannot really be classified as a civil war.
I can't even get here. The Taiwanese were NEVER a part of the CCP. Thus, there can't be a civil war...well...maybe if Taiwan invaded Western Taiwan.
Taiwan's official name is the Republic of China. It's Chiang Kai-shek's government in exile. They're the descendants of the people who fought Mao and his Communists during the Chinese Civil War.
Taiwan still technically claims all of China (and Mongolia) for itself even nowadays:
"The political status of Taiwan is contentious.[43] The ROC no longer represents China as a member of the United Nations, after UN members voted in 1971 to recognize the PRC instead.[44] The ROC maintained its claim of being the sole legitimate representative of China and its territory, although this has been downplayed since its democratization in the 1990s. Taiwan is claimed by the PRC, which refuses diplomatic relations with countries that recognise the ROC. Taiwan maintains official diplomatic relations with 13 out of 193 UN member states and the Holy See,[44][45][46] though many others maintain unofficial diplomatic ties through representative offices and institutions that function as de facto embassies and consulates. International organisations in which the PRC participates either refuse to grant membership to Taiwan or allow it to participate only on a non-state basis under various names. Domestically, the major political contention is between parties favouring eventual Chinese unification and promoting a pan-Chinese identity, contrasted with those aspiring to formal international recognition and promoting a Taiwanese identity; into the 21st century, both sides have moderated their positions to broaden their appeal.[47][48]"
Also:
"Name of the country
The official name of the country in English is the "Republic of China"; it has also been known under various names throughout its existence. Shortly after the ROC's establishment in 1912, while it was still located on the Chinese mainland, the government used the short form "China" (Zhōngguó (中國)) to refer to itself, which derives from zhōng ("central" or "middle") and guó ("state, nation-state"),[n] a term which also developed under the Zhou dynasty in reference to its royal demesne,[o] and the name was then applied to the area around Luoyi (present-day Luoyang) during the Eastern Zhou and then to China's Central Plain before being used as an occasional synonym for the state during the Qing era.[62] The name of the Republic had stemmed from the party manifesto of Tongmenghui in 1905, which says the four goals of the Chinese revolution was "to expel the Manchu rulers, to revive Chunghwa, to establish a Republic, and to distribute land equally among the people.(Chinese: 驅除韃虜, 恢復中華, 創立民國, 平均地權; pinyin: Qūchú dálǔ, huīfù Zhōnghuá, chuànglì mínguó, píngjūn dì quán)." The convener of Tongmenghui and Chinese revolutionary leader Sun Yat-sen proposed the name Chunghwa Minkuo as the assumed name of the new country when the revolution succeeded.
During the 1950s and 1960s, after the ROC government had withdrawn to Taiwan upon losing the Chinese Civil War, it was commonly referred to as "Nationalist China" (or "Free China") to differentiate it from "Communist China" (or "Red China").[64] It was a member of the United Nations representing China until 1971, when the ROC lost its seat to the People's Republic of China. Over subsequent decades, the Republic of China has become commonly known as "Taiwan", after the main island. In some contexts, including ROC government publications, the name is written as "Republic of China (Taiwan)", "Republic of China/Taiwan", or sometimes "Taiwan (ROC)".[65][66][67]
The Republic of China participates in most international forums and organizations under the name "Chinese Taipei" as a compromise with the People's Republic of China (PRC). For instance, it is the name under which it has participated in the Olympic Games as well as the World Trade Organization. In 2009, after reaching an agreement with Beijing, the ROC participated in the World Health Organization for the first time in 38 years, under the name "Chinese Taipei".[68] "Taiwan authorities" is sometimes used by the PRC to refer to the current government in Taiwan.[69]"
Oh, I get it. I'm just to the point that these are two separate countries that are competing for the same geography.
Really though...it's all just semantics.
Really though...it's all just semantics.
Yeah, I mean, North Korea and South Korea claim the same territory but it would still be very bad for NK to conquer SK since NK is a totalitarian dictatorship and SK is not. Same logic applies to China conquering Taiwan. Taiwan is much freer than China is, after all. China, meanwhile, has a social credit system and whatnot. And no democracy.
Taiwan hosted an unannounced event in Taipei which was attended by legislative officials from various countries in Africa, Asia and Europe including officials from Australia, Britain, Canada, India, Japan, Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Ukraine. The main subject of the visit was to push sanctions against China in the case of growing Chinese Aggression against Taiwan.
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www.reuters.com
EXCLUSIVE Taiwan hosts dozens of foreign lawmakers in Washington to push China sanctions
Taiwan's de facto ambassador in Washington, Hsiao Bi-khim, hosted on Tuesday dozens of international lawmakers who back sanctions on China for aggression toward the island, a show of support for Taipei amid military pressure from Beijing.
www.reuters.com
Last Spring it was apparently revealed that the US military had been training the Taiwanese military on Taiwanese territory before but now the program, at least with the US National Guard, is going to be expanded.
History Learner
Well-known member
DPP Chairman and former Vice President of the DPP publicly counter-signaled independence:
For those that don't know, he's the likely 2024 candidate for the DPP, which is the Pro-Independence party in Taiwan.
For those that don't know, he's the likely 2024 candidate for the DPP, which is the Pro-Independence party in Taiwan.
In what sense are they not?
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
The fevered dreams of the CCP.
Who know that as long as any part of Chinese territory remains under the control of that country's legitimate government, their own right to rule is in question.
Ironically, independence for Taiwan would resolve that issue.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
It really says something about the Communist mindset, that they can't just go 'Well, those losers can go suffer under the horrors of capitalism. We'll go clean up their mess once it inevitably collapses.'
They don't even believe in their professed ideology themselves.
gral
Well-known member
Marx, Lenin and Mao are jealous gods.