Serious question about anti-Semitism.
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They became the townships, most became subjects of the Crown and integrated lol.
Sorry but Angloids didn't need to do the genociding Cortes did or the Spanish in the South West because while the Hurons and other groups were brutal and savage in war they were also not genocidal lunatics for the Lulz like Central and South Americans were.
Especially when most English brought families and the Chiefs recognized the opportunity for political marriages which the English settlers were fine with since again Anglos were doing that for centuries at home with Norman's, Vikings, Saxons etc.
And most of those conveniently came into existence during Allendes time.
It's a larp for welfare.
Ñoquis man.
There are you have any idea how many people in the states talk about being 1/16th tribe or some such?
You have to remember our part of america wasn't like mexico with its large civilization it was a lot more spread out and had much smaller numbers. Then you had an utterly apocolipitic series of plagues wipe out 90% or so of the population. That by the way might be why america produces so much post apocoliptic media. We litterally had a localized appoclipse wipe out most of the population. And those plagues just kept killing people and no no one back then understood germ theory so yeah.
So you have a population getting massacred by disease, that was already small to begin with and then a massive movement of imigrants. So yes the Metizos are there its just a much smaller admixture then further south.
I mean... you want evidence that the English Settlers tended to be more integrationist and respectful to the local tribes?
Consider that the Commonwealth of Virginia continues to recognize and respect treaties made with the Pamunkey and Mattaponi (both part of the Powhattan Confederation) from the 17th century to this day, and, while there was a bit of early and mid-20th century racism directed at them for a time that sought to erase their tribal legacies, they continued to recognize those tribes, even when the Federal Government did not, and ended up fighting for Federal Government recognition.
Most modern members of those tribes are clearly of mixed blood too, so interbreeding was quite common over time. Also, the history of the Virginia Indian Wars is almost never taught or looked into, as they are not clear "evil white settlers vs poor innocent natives", no, they were frequently "local tribe and settler allies vs other local tribes" and often featured a very Game of Thrones esq. set of changing alliances and massacres for everyone by everyone!
90% died in Mexico,too.And still it is country with metises and local indians.And Spain take over in 1520,when Powhattan territories after 1650.even after 90% die,that still remain 20 big villages.Enough to populate Virginia with metis population now.And we told about one tribe.They were not nomad,but settled people - and probably their numbers combined were as big as Aztecs.
Moreover,if you look at churches at Mexico,all painting and sculptures from about 1600 are made by local indians,only architect were from Europe/Not Spain - Italy/
Why? becouse they were treated as Spain crown subject,when anglos belived that they are New Israel - and did to locals what they thought old Israel did in Canaan.Even if Caanan genocide is bullshit,genocide in East is,sadly not.
Which is a damn shame because it's honestly some of the most fascinating parts of American History.
All the people who love alt history and what if stories and you literally had an age of sail empire make contact with multiple dark age powers, and some of these tribes even had a proud marshal tradition, their own schizophrenic brand of feudalism and an equivalent to knights..with both the privateers and merchants scheming with the "nobles".
"What would happen if the Union Army that Grant built up during the ACW and was honed and perfected in the subsequent generation clashed with the Mongol Hordes?"
Yeah..happened..The Sioux, the Comanche and the other lords of the plains were basically Mongols with repeating rifles.
"What would happen if Frontiersmen and Rangers and militiamen of the Early United States/Colonial era fought Vikings?"
Yeah what the fuck do you think the Great Lakes tribes were? The River peoples? Go read any account by Canadians and Americans or Scottish and Russian fur trappers about shitstorms with them and with Huron peoples?
It's honestly no wonder the US took to the intrigue game so well even while actively disdaining it, when it was such an integral part of its formative years and why American soldiers are so versatile when they spent most of their early years fighting expies of a bunch of different civilizations.
And a damn shame they don't do more fiction in this setting.
I like how I'm the guy who memes about Anglos being bog apes who destroy their own civilizations in chimp outs and work against themselves and even I'm telling you. you're full of shit.
Also its a complete fabrication that the Spanish treated the Indios well outside of certain parts of Mexico as anything other than dirt and both Indios and Spanish teamed up to shit on Mestizos.
I mean for fucks sake...there was a war declared on a South American Country because a single half Mestizo..was passed miscegenation laws between criollos and Mestizos and it resulted in every major South American power teaming up to literally drive the people of that nation closer to extermination than any group has been in a thousand years.
They got fucked, objectively worse than the Jewish people did in the Holocaust (Between 35-80% of the male population was obliterated, even Hitler wasn't that thorough, not by a longshot). Their children got subjected to bayonet charges and it was literally written up as I ordered my men to grease the blade.
No English colony ever came close to that level of savagery.
Ironically the Comanche did. They considered genocide a fantastic fucking way to kill a slow summer. Literally starting genocidal wars with their neighbors because they had nothing better to do that week.
But you don't care about that do you?
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Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Bear in mind, these guys or their ancestors probably scalped actual fucking Vikings.
Native cultures are hardcore. Need I mention the Zulu?
Let's just say, there's a reason the English settlers kept so many place names from the Natives... why so much of the US' military hardware is named after Native tribes, and also why so many sports teams used Native symbols... the US has long had a love/hate relationship with the Natives, and it has long been recognized that the US did not treat with them fairly long before modern political correctness and social justice came about. At the same time, modern political correctness actually does nothing to actually address the harms done by those historic wrongs, all it does is erase the symbols of respect that the US did, what w8th renaming sports teams and insisting that non natives never use Native symbols or ideas. In some respect, it puts the Indians out of sight, and thus, out of mind... and leaves them to languish on reservations...
About proof that anglos genocided indian becouse they thought that it is what God want - Mystic massacre - Wikipedia
Spaniard could massacre,too - but they never belived that God send them to kill indians,like anglos.That is why we have native indians in Mexico,but not on East of USA.
And i am taking about catholic spaniards,not mason-ruled countries which emerged in 19th century.They massacred indian precisely becouse they were not longer catholics.Nicaragua indian lost their land,which they owned under Spanish Kings,when USA puppets ruled there.
P.S if you wrote about Paraguay war,then ruler was madmad who attacked all countries nearby,and killed most catholic bishops becouse they do not want declare him Saint.As a result of lost war almost all male population died,not only metises - becouse they were ordered to fight by madman.
Of course thre are - but they are all white people cosplaing as indians,descendents of womans which get not killed but enslaved.Like so called argentinian indians.
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That's a Wiki pedo article, citing that is like citing a Q anon article.
It's a psyop
Lol no, Lopez barely got a chance to do any of that because Mitre and Sarmiento didn't even let them get that far. They saw the size of the Paraguayan military and chimped out and used that as a pretext to commit genocide.
Also Paraguay is and was mostly mestizos.
Stop cope posting about Angloids.
If you look at how militantly opposed to progressivism most of those tribes were last century and the century prior?
That's a feature, not a bug.
The left is deliberately trying to annihilate the tribes that resisted them and replace them with Salvadorian rapists and Chicana skeezoids and couching it in respecting their culture to boot.
Absolutely vile.
That's a Wiki pedo article, citing that is like citing a Q anon article.
It's a psyop
Lol no, Lopez barely got a chance to do any of that because Mitre and Sarmiento didn't even let them get that far. They saw the size of the Paraguayan military and chimped out and used that as a pretext to commit genocide.
Also Paraguay is and was mostly mestizos.
Stop cope posting about Angloids.
If you look at how militantly opposed to progressivism most of those tribes were last century and the century prior?
That's a feature, not a bug.
The left is deliberately trying to annihilate the tribes that resisted them and replace them with Salvadorian rapists and Chicana skeezoids and couching it in respecting their culture to boot.
Absolutely vile.
King Arts
Well-known member
So I hate to be that guy but this stuff has nothing to do with Israel or anti semetism.
So did you guys here about porn star Mia Khalifa bitching about Israel being colonizers? She said a lot of stupid shit like she’d be better off being in Saudi Arabia or Palestine instead of Israel because she’s born in Lebanon. She must have replaced her brains with cum she’d get rocks thrown at her for being a whore.
So did you guys here about porn star Mia Khalifa bitching about Israel being colonizers? She said a lot of stupid shit like she’d be better off being in Saudi Arabia or Palestine instead of Israel because she’s born in Lebanon. She must have replaced her brains with cum she’d get rocks thrown at her for being a whore.
King Arts
Well-known member
Ewww I thought dicks were the most disgusting things she put in her mouth but it turns out it’s crap.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
So you reference a conflict in which some tribes allied with the English, some with the Dutch, and there was a war. The Pequot lost, and some of their civilians were massacred when that particular settlement was razed.
That's terrible. It's also not genocide.
It's also not even close to supporting the idea that all of the East-coast tribes were wiped out in a campaign of genocide.
Try again.
This. Let's try to keep things a bit more on topic here.
"Person on social media discusses Israel-Palestine conflict in simplistic, absolutest terms, ends up with really dumb take"....not exactly a shocking outcome.
Pequot ceased to exist as tribe ,and important thing about massacre is that people who did so thought that they are doing God work.Spaniards never did so,and they almost always try to made most of people slaves.Anglos were puritans,belived in bullshit about genociding all caananites - and becouse they were "New Lsrael" indians were caananites and must all die.Well,except virgin girls.Thanks to them we have white american with indian blood there.
And considering that Spaniards conqered Mexico in 1520 and most population is made of metises,and anglos conqered indian lands after 1650 and there are only white people there/some cosplaing as indians/,it is proof enough.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
No 'I assert this' is not 'proof enough.'
If we're going to argue at the level of 'I say so, therefore it is,' then I have a simple counter-argument:
You're wrong.
There. I win the argument. Now either get some real evidence and argumentation, or admit you're just pushing a line of propaganda you swallowed at some point. You haven't even bothered to try to come up with responses to any points others made.