Anime & Manga RWBY General discussion thread.

[Circle of Willis]

Welp, Rooster Teeth is now officially dead. I had a feeling it was coming, but thought (clearly wrongly) they'd last through 2024 at least on account of those RvB and Camp Camp announcements. WBD is mentioned to still be looking for a buyer for RWBY and Gen:Lock, but from the article it sounds like they've already been trying & failing to sell those properties off for a while before the decision to ax RT in its entirety was made. If they can't find a taker soon, this looks to be the end of the road for RWBY.

 

[Zachowon]

Damn, let's hope someone does buy RWBY, and maybe the RvB group can work at 343 or Paramoint making a better Halo series.

They lasted so long.
I think they truly died when AH died though

 

[Terthna]

So RWBY ended on a season entirely comprised of filler, that contributed nothing to the show's overarching narrative, and a terrible Justice League crossover. Fitting. Now we just have to wait and see if Warner Bros manages to find someone willing to buy the IP; and considering how Crunchyroll apparently refused to fund a tenth season, I doubt it's going to be them.

 

[Zachowon]

Who knows.
We may get someone.
I hope at least.

 

[Abhorsen]

I personally think the creative ideas sorta died with Monty Oum.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

I feel sad, while RWBY had its fair share of problems, I still immensely enjoyed the show, I hope someone picks it up if only to do a reboot or remake.

To add further Volume 9 was creative and fun but beyond minor character development ultimately nothing happened, my hope was that maybe someone like Blake would die in the volume given how her arc is over and that Jaune would stay older which would make thing's interesting when they got back to Remnant but ultimately the show caved to Bumblebee fans as the highlight of the season which was incredibly forced.

Literally the only lasting plot point of Volume 9 is that the Tree in theory might offer a way to kill Salem, but I don't even know if that's possible.

 

[DarthOne]

Rooster Teeth Shut Down By Warner Bros. Discovery, The Roost Podcast Network To Continue

A pioneer in digital content creation is going away. Rooster Teeth, a subsidiary of Warner Bros. Discovery, is ceasing operations after 21 years.

deadline.com

"despair for the conceited"

 

[Blasterbot]

at least we got some wonderful memes of homophobic Ruby and DILF Jaune in the end.

 

[DarthOne]

at least we got some wonderful memes of homophobic Ruby and DILF Jaune in the end.

Yeah the Ruby one in particular is hilarious. If only because of how funny everyone seemed to find it and how badly the Redditors and Tumblr-tards flipped out over it.

 

[Circle of Willis]

Realistically, a buyer can just use Ice Queendom as the ideal launchpad for a remake. Even if you don't want to keep its original plotline, it still pretty effectively condenses the first volume without losing much of significance. Probably won't happen for 5-10 years though, they'll want time to let people forget the latter half of the show and build up hype/nostalgia. And that's assuming a buyer can still be found at this point. According to the Deadline article, most of the companies that expressed an interest in buying RWBY from WBD/RT have themselves died off already.

Oh well. Shane Newville's now working with another ex-RWBY animator who was inspired by Monty Oum and worked with him on parts of V3 before getting canned, Dillon Gu - seems they're mostly making Genshin Impact fan animations these days and their latest video just hit 10 million views. Can definitely sense some of that early-RWBY magic in these scenes. It'd be pretty great if they could pony up the cash to take RWBY off Zaslav's hands and redo it their way, but I doubt they're that rich. Even if they don't though, at least they can now have a laugh at the people who screwed them over all those years ago being taken out behind the shed while they're enjoying viral success which, ironically, rather mirrors that of the early RWBY trailers and V1-2.

 

[DarthOne]

The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

 

[DarthOne]

 

[ATP]

That.It was good series in the beginning,but now i honestly do not care if they die or not,or who would win.

 

[f1onagher]

I personally think the creative ideas sorta died with Monty Oum.

RWBY was always built as a vehicle to host spectacle-grade fight scenes and no one else at RT was able to even imitate Oum. Even after season six, I think, when the fight scenes got better they were still less amazing than the creaky, low-graphic ones from seasons 1-3. Without that, RWBY needed to run on plot or characters and well... *gestures helplessly*

Realistically, a buyer can just use Ice Queendom as the ideal launchpad for a remake. Even if you don't want to keep its original plotline, it still pretty effectively condenses the first volume without losing much of significance. Probably won't happen for 5-10 years though, they'll want time to let people forget the latter half of the show and build up hype/nostalgia. And that's assuming a buyer can still be found at this point. According to the Deadline article, most of the companies that expressed an interest in buying RWBY from WBD/RT have themselves died off already.

Oh well. Shane Newville's now working with another ex-RWBY animator who was inspired by Monty Oum and worked with him on parts of V3 before getting canned, Dillon Gu - seems they're mostly making Genshin Impact fan animations these days and their latest video just hit 10 million views. Can definitely sense some of that early-RWBY magic in these scenes. It'd be pretty great if they could pony up the cash to take RWBY off Zaslav's hands and redo it their way, but I doubt they're that rich. Even if they don't though, at least they can now have a laugh at the people who screwed them over all those years ago being taken out behind the shed while they're enjoying viral success which, ironically, rather mirrors that of the early RWBY trailers and V1-2.

See that's what I don't get. Dillon Gu was clearly capable of picking up Oum's work and from what I understand was probably not the only one. I don't keep track of the RT drama, but it honestly looks like they ditched Oum's team after he died. Which is baffling.

 

[Abhorsen]

RWBY was always built as a vehicle to host spectacle-grade fight scenes and no one else at RT was able to even imitate Oum. Even after season six, I think, when the fight scenes got better they were still less amazing than the creaky, low-graphic ones from seasons 1-3. Without that, RWBY needed to run on plot or characters and well... *gestures helplessly*

In fairness, imitating Oum is hard. He's an artist when it comes to animated fight choreography, with a particular and distinct style, and continuing a art project after the artist died is very hard.

 

[Terthna]

See that's what I don't get. Dillon Gu was clearly capable of picking up Oum's work and from what I understand was probably not the only one. I don't keep track of the RT drama, but it honestly looks like they ditched Oum's team after he died. Which is baffling.

Not that baffling, when you factor in the egos of the two men who took charge of the show after Monty die; Miles Luna, and Kerry Shawcross. Those guys clearly had their own, shittier vision for RWBY; one that ran counter to what Monty's animation team thought their mentor would have wanted. So, they obviously had to go; so that Miles and Kerry could turn the show into a vehicle for stroking their egos.

In fairness, imitating Oum is hard. He's an artist when it comes to animated fight choreography, with a particular and distinct style, and continuing a art project after the artist died is very hard.

It would have been far easier had they not ousted the people who had worked alongside him, animating the show for years.

 

[Circle of Willis]

RWBY was always built as a vehicle to host spectacle-grade fight scenes and no one else at RT was able to even imitate Oum. Even after season six, I think, when the fight scenes got better they were still less amazing than the creaky, low-graphic ones from seasons 1-3. Without that, RWBY needed to run on plot or characters and well... *gestures helplessly*


See that's what I don't get. Dillon Gu was clearly capable of picking up Oum's work and from what I understand was probably not the only one. I don't keep track of the RT drama, but it honestly looks like they ditched Oum's team after he died. Which is baffling.

Yeah I can't claim to know what exactly happened behind the scenes either, and I understand Shane's got his own biases and wasn't exactly in the best mental state when he published his open letter, but it really does seem like RT jumped at the chance to 'make RWBY their own' once Monty was out of the picture and deeply disliked the thought of deferring to his former team (Shane & Dillon both) for whatever reason, only to then prove decidedly incompetent at their self-appointed task. Was it a question of clashing egos, not wanting to share the profits from what was then a booming cash cow, simple spite because Shane might've ticked off the wrong person years before, etc.?

Knowing what we've come to know about how screwed up things were at RT over these past few years, I'd believe any or all of those could be the truth. (I can't buy the pro-RT explanation that Shane was too difficult to work with, considering they clearly kept far worse people on board and were totally cool with far more toxic workplace behaviors & practices for years after sacking him.) And speaking of former RT screwups, Vic Mignogna's probably pretty happy at both Funimation and RT now biting the dust after fucking him over in that whole KickVic debacle too. At least it's something of a consolation prize after Ty Beard tanked his case.

And on the note of Dillon & Shane potentially finally taking up the mantle of RWBY, they've now formally expressed interest in acquiring the property. Which would be the best possible outcome for RWBY at this point if they can pull it off, IMO, considering their obvious talent and lingering connection to the IP. Fingers crossed that Crunchyroll's either lost interest in buying RWBY after IQ and V9 apparently failed to pull in enough dough to get them to greenlight V10, reducing the competition that Gu & Newville will be facing in their bid, or if they still are the ones to acquire RWBY that they'll license it out to DillonGoo Studios (God knows they have no business trying to make more anime of their own in-house).

 

[Terthna]

And on the note of Dillon & Shane potentially finally taking up the mantle of RWBY, they've now formally expressed interest in acquiring the property. Which would be the best possible outcome for RWBY at this point if they can pull it off, IMO, considering their obvious talent and lingering connection to the IP. Fingers crossed that Crunchyroll's either lost interest in buying RWBY after IQ and V9 apparently failed to pull in enough dough to get them to greenlight V10, reducing the competition that Gu & Newville will be facing in their bid, or if they still are the ones to acquire RWBY that they'll license it out to DillonGoo Studios (God knows they have no business trying to make more anime of their own in-house).

Sadly, I don't like their chances even if there's no other buyers; as companies tend to not want to sell IPs for less than they think it should sell for, which is usually more than they're actually worth.

That said, if they manage it I'm hoping they're planning to either redo season 3 and go on from there, or start over from the beginning. The latter might be easier, since I expect they'd have to recast all of the voices; considering how most of them are terrible people who probably wouldn't be on board with trying to fix the show.

 

[Circle of Willis]

Sadly, I don't like their chances even if there's no other buyers; as companies tend to not want to sell IPs for less than they think it should sell for, which is usually more than they're actually worth.

That said, if they manage it I'm hoping they're planning to either redo season 3 and go on from there, or start over from the beginning. The latter might be easier, since I expect they'd have to recast all of the voices; considering how most of them are terrible people who probably wouldn't be on board with trying to fix the show.

Pretty much inevitable if they manage it, I believe. Setting aside how they parted with RT on very bad terms and how that has likely affected their opinion of CRWBY's work without them, the writers have written themselves into a corner. It makes literally no sense to try to pick things up where they were left off in such a difficult position by other people (who you don't even agree with or necessarily like, to put it mildly) like 6-7 years after you parted ways and to untangle the mess they've made, when you could just restart from a point you're much more familiar with (and probably have far more positive memories).

They could do character-focused, relatively low-stakes shorts in the vein of the trailers perhaps (that seems like the format Remnant's stories would be best told in), or if they must have a long narrative, I'd trust Dillon and Shane's writing abilities over those demonstrated by Miles and Kerry. Hell if they must, they could probably hire some of the more popular RWBY fanfic writers and get them to put together a better story than the trainwreck that followed Beacon's fall.

Also, the memes about RT's and RWBY's demise are starting to fly now. Many are funny, some are sad, all are pretty great so far.

 

[Zachowon]

Yeah, the Bumblebee group ruined a lot.