Macron is doing what is in his interest. Which in this case is trying to create himself a reputation as a great diplomat. It doesn't have to be true, he just needs the reputation.So, Macron is high on copium?
Macron is doing what is in his interest. Which in this case is trying to create himself a reputation as a great diplomat. It doesn't have to be true, he just needs the reputation.So, Macron is high on copium?
I saw that briefing clip yesterday elsewhere nothing of substance was revealef beyond a 'trust us' and when the the reporter pressed as to something of substance actually be put out to the public, he was accused of being a disloyal.It was the first ones to show it. Look for sources you trust then.
Fine more of them.
‘Alex Jones territory’: Reporter battles State Department spokesman on Russian ‘false flag’ claim - Washington Examiner
A reporter challenged State Department spokesman Ned Price on claims that Russia might be cooking up a propaganda video showing a fabricated attack by Ukrainian forces to justify military action against Ukraine. Associated Press correspondent Matt Lee pressed Price for evidence to support his...www.washingtonexaminer.com
But obviously you would rather suck off Russia then think they would do something to make themselves look good.
I never saw Macron having said that the Russians were promising not to move units in their territory or in Belarus.He did according to... Macron.
Considering that the military maneuvers are remaining on their previous, concerning course, i see no sign of it being a success. Hence it is a flop.
I read both articles, it seems like people want to imply Macron is saying it, in response to a pledge by Putin that only seems to exist in the minds of the same people.
I want proof of the pledge by Putin, and proof of Macron saying it was broken, from the mouths of the leaders themselves, not any 'anonymous sources' or 'sources close to the matter' via media outlets.
They already have units in Ukraine and Belarus, and the article says nothing about Putin or Russia saying they'd be moving those units as part of any deal.MSN claims france24 (partially owned by public broadcaster of France) source, not BBC like others, so unlikely they would try doing any funny business against Macron.MSN
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Talks were confidential, so you will never know what Putin said.
Welp, if you want to find excuses in technicalities of statements to insist that all the media owned by different parties must be wrong, you will find them, but that doesn't mean they are worth anything.They already have units in Ukraine and Belarus, and the article says nothing about Putin or Russia saying they'd be moving those units as part of any deal.
So again, I see no evidence of any pledge regarding Russian units, or any indication that Macron feeling a pledge was broken.
This very much seems like another 'wag the dog' establishment media story trying to twist the words of both leaders to try to keep the war hysteria/hype building.
Welp, what could RUssia gain from a False Flag?I saw that briefing clip yesterday elsewhere nothing of substance was revealef beyond a 'trust us' and when the the reporter pressed as to something of substance actually be put out to the public, he was accused of being a disloyal.
Just like you did, when I dared to doubt what the sources 'official' DC sources are saying.
The article you linked actually shows why people are not trusting DC when it says they have proof of an imminent Russian false flag op; daring to question if DC actually does gets insults, not facts, from the establishment.
I never saw Macron having said that the Russians were promising not to move units in their territory or in Belarus.
I read both articles, it seems like people want to imply Macron is saying it, in response to a pledge by Putin that only seems to exist in the minds of the same people.
I want proof of the pledge by Putin, and proof of Macron saying it was broken, from the mouths of the leaders themselves, not any 'anonymous sources' or 'sources close to the matter' via media outlets.
Russia has units in Ukraine? since when?They already have units in Ukraine and Belarus, and the article says nothing about Putin or Russia saying they'd be moving those units as part of any deal.
So again, I see no evidence of any pledge regarding Russian units, or any indication that Macron feeling a pledge was broken.
This very much seems like another 'wag the dog' establishment media story trying to twist the words of both leaders to try to keep the war hysteria/hype building.
But you see Marduk, if the Mainstream claim it, it must be false beacuse they are warhawk libs who want to go to war!Welp, if you want to find excuses in technicalities of statements to insist that all the media owned by different parties must be wrong, you will find them, but that doesn't mean they are worth anything.
Fact is that Macron claimed no new escalations, while Russia "denied it will cease new military initiatives near Ukrainian border". Interpret that how you will, but that seems to be the case, and it does seem roughly similar to the mainstream narrative of the matter.
I'm just looking at what is said by the main parties involved, not the media twist and spin.Welp, if you want to find excuses in technicalities of statements to insist that all the media owned by different parties must be wrong, you will find them, but that doesn't mean they are worth anything.
Fact is that Macron claimed no new escalations, while Russia "denied it will cease new military initiatives near Ukrainian border". Interpret that how you will, but that seems to be the case, and it does seem roughly similar to the mainstream narrative of the matter.
It's in ours too; and the warhawks really want Russia to invade Ukraine to get the war they are itching for.Welp, what could RUssia gain from a False Flag?
Perhaps reaosn to invade?
I mean, it is somewhat in Russias playbook
I miss typed; meant to type 'near Ukraine'.Russia has units in Ukraine? since when?
Why are you thinking the US is going to get invovled?I'm just looking at what is said by the main parties involved, not the media twist and spin.
If Macron himself comes out and says Putin violated a pledge to him, then I will believe it.
It's in ours too; and the warhawks really want Russia to invade Ukraine to get the war they are itching for.
I guess a 'No Russian'-type joint false flag by warhawks on both sides is possible.
I miss typed; meant to type 'near Ukraine'.
Why would Macron humiliate himself by doing that, especially if the story is true?I'm just looking at what is said by the main parties involved, not the media twist and spin.
If Macron himself comes out and says Putin violated a pledge to him, then I will believe it.
A false flag to start the conflict lets the warhawks seems 'on top of things' and gets the 'we should have listened to the warhawks' rhetoric going in the media, creates another conflict to sell even more US weapons, expends Russian military resources, may hurt their relationship within the CSTO, and makes Ukraine even more dependent on the US and NATO for support, and allows the Biden regime to push for more 'war-time' type emergency powers to use to deal with their domestic opposition ahead of the midterms.Why are you thinking the US is going to get invovled?
NATO and the US have already said they will not do anything.
Why would a false flag benefit the US?
A false flag to start the conflict lets the warhawks seems 'on top of things' and gets the 'we should have listened to the warhawks' rhetoric going in the media, creates another conflict to sell even more US weapons, expends Russian military resources, may hurt their relationship within the CSTO, and makes Ukraine even more dependent on the US and NATO for support, and allows the Biden regime to push for more 'war-time' type emergency powers to use to deal with their domestic opposition ahead of the midterms.
You think it would matter to the Biden Admin if it wasn't 'our' troops at war with Russia, when it would come to trying to grab and justify an attempt to grab more emergency powers based on Russia moving on Ukraine formally?Except you’re putting the cart ahead of the horse. If the Biden admin is going to push for “war time emergency powers” it has to go to war first, that means putting actual US troops in Ukraine, which is something no one has stated either plans for a desire to do so. For now they’ll just keep selling or giving weapons to the Ukraine and that’s it.
I loathe and despise the Biden admin as much as most others here, but putting out conspiracy hysteria and trying to beat up political strawmen doesn’t help.
You think it would matter to the Biden Admin if it wasn't 'our' troops at war with Russia, when it would come to trying to grab and justify an attempt to grab more emergency powers based on Russia moving on Ukraine formally?
After these last few years, and what the Wu Flu allowed DC to justify, along with the legacy of the Patriot Act, I think expecting that sort of action by the Biden Admin ahead of the midterms is not unreasonable.
US media legacy like Reuters also has a very definite motive to play by the narrative DC wants, and disrupt any deal/agreement made between European powers and Russia, if said deal was not DC approved/embarrassed DC by being left out.
Putin never did promise not to do stuff with Belarus or in Russian territory, in the BBC article.
So first you go to CNN to get articles hyping up the hysteria, and now you go to NPR.
It's almost as if legacy media and the establishment Left are also full of neolib warhawks.
Same way they stole the 2020 election; a compliant and willing media and political establishment that would run cover for them, control of all three branches of power (even if SCOTUS is iffy for them), and are facing seriously shit polling facing the midterms, and getting the US involved in a war in Europe against Russia, even if Biden had previously said he'd not send troops to Ukraine.Okay Bacle, explain then how the Biden admin plans to implement war time emergency powers to screw the midterm elections while NOT going to war over the Ukraine. Because anyone with half a brain knows any us confrontation with Russia in the Ukraine is likely gonna end badly for everyone involved.
Seriously, how?
Don't forget the Yellow Press lied about the Sinking of the USS Maine either.