It's an important concern though. And it's the only way the war ends. Ukraine isn't going to lose or win. The stalemate's been going for months with no progress. There's no reason to continue the war.
So what? Few months of stalemate, in this scale of war, do not mean much.
Iran-Iraq war lasted for almost 8 years.
... It would be once Ukraine would be in NATO.
Though I will thank you for admitting that you are happy to kill Ukrainians to kill Russians, you just want more people dead. These are real people who are really dying. Families without sons or fathers. War is shit. Wanting it to end as swiftly as possible is basic humanity. You balance this against that Russia will continue the war in a part 2 if nothing changes, hence the NATO stuff.
According to pooling Ukrainians themselves are more often sharing my view than your attempt to "protect" them. Sorry, but this sort of anti-war sentiment is not popular in this corner of the world. There are worse things than war. One of such things, as Ukrainians are being constantly reminded, is being occupied by Russia. They aren't a progressive western country, they care about their compatriots. Your "basic humanity" to them sounds like leaving their cousins, friends and acquaintances to the highly lacking mercy of an authoritarian state who has recently revealed its cards saying that their nation should not exist, or if they are lucky, leave their hometowns, businesses and ancestral houses behind.
It's like asking Taiwan to surrender to China from their perspective.
Most Ukrainians favor fighting until the country wins the war. To them, victory means retaking all territory seized by Russia since 2014, including Crimea.
news.gallup.com
A lot of this support is new, and ironically, created by Russia's... unscrupulous way of waging the war and political climate around it, artificially increasing the perceived cost of all concessions and souring the relation in general. It may well be that by the end of this war, Russian-Ukrainian relations will be at meme Balkan level, if they aren't there already.
Baseless? I've clearly pointed out that Russia used up all of it's soft power. It no longer has the Nordstream pipeline. It doesn't have any neighboring countries that are non-NATO other than Belarus, which is also ringed by NATO. Ukraine would be the final nail in the coffin, because being ringed by NATO countries means Russia can't do anything.
Maybe don't throw around words you don't know the meaning of.
Again, just because you don't know things doesn't mean they don't exist.
Russia has some of soft power of its most favorite kind left, corruption and behind the scenes deals. This is why some countries in EU still import their energy, and why NATO membership of Sweden is still in limbo.
And again, Moldova, Georgia, Serbia and rest of Balkans, and all the MENA places that mess with Europe with migration and energy stuff.
No, they wouldn't. Only Russia and Ukraine and NATO would need to have mutual understanding re:Russia's Borders.
NATO is not a hivemind, and few members would cause issues. Again, see the point in case, Sweden.
Funny I didn't think of it.
So you are asking the impossible, both politically and legally, and merely call it difficult.
Meanwhile it took over a year since the beginning of the war to have Finland join, and that's easy and ordinary procedure compared to the kind of strange maneuvers your plan requires for Ukraine.
Read what I actually said. Russia will support those rebel movements, but they won't create them out of thin air like Bacle is saying. When you create your own rebel movements you make ones that are friendly to you. China might make commies to create them since they on paper believe the same thing, Russia if it is going to be creating rebels whole cloth they would make something similar to Trump.
So Bacle's statement that as long as Moscow exists we can't stop the commies because Moscow is the secret puppet master of commies is stupid.
That's opportunism, not limitation, bolstering already existing disruptors is easier. And the red kind of disruptors is spread around like vermin, so they count as that, and Moscow's spymasters have handling this particular kind mastered, why try to figure out a whole new thing to do something that they already have figured out how to do the old way, with leftist movements. See: Cuba, Venezuela, Kurds, even without being commies they still hold close relations with all the remaining commies.
