Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

That's...not really a given. It'll take a week or so for the waters to level out. Then they can cross with pretty much the same difficulty as before. It also has the possibility of making the crossings easier as the higher waters may open up add'l crossing sites.
The mud and debris around the river will take months to both dry and be cleaned up, and teh lakes/swamps created/refilled by the flood will be a problem for a while.

Only place to actually effectively cross is above the lake that drained, I don't expect more than arty duels or SoF raids/recovery down stream of it for the foreseeable future.
 
The mud and debris around the river will take months to both dry and be cleaned up, and teh lakes/swamps created/refilled by the flood will be a problem for a while.

Only place to actually effectively cross is above the lake that drained, I don't expect more than arty duels or SoF raids/recovery down stream of it for the foreseeable future.
I expect several sorties by the Ukrainians within the next week or two, and potentially a major push if they can find an exploit.
 
I expect several sorties by the Ukrainians within the next week or two, and potentially a major push if they can find an exploit.
...maybe; there are ways to do crossings in situations like this; it's just none are...'good' options in most cases, as long as Russia has local arty superiority, and Ukraine does not have air superiority yet.

Slow rolling the F-16s for Ukraine was a dumb move, should have had those spinning up 8 months ago.
 


Yeah, with 3 more days of rain on the flooded areas, don't expect things to dry out there any quicker.
 


Well,this ought to be interesting to see play out; if Wagner doesn't respect this decree, then thats another step towards another Russian civil war.

Edit: Russia has added even more territory to the 'pre-condition of negotiations' list, even though they do not actually have troops in those regions at this point.



Russia is delusional and not operating in good faith at all, and Ukraine has no reason to accede to these even more ridiculous demands.
 
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Those generals are on Columbian Puro and Fentanyl if they think that will happen. Ukraine will not negotiate until 1991 borders are restored. Then depending on Russia's situation by then they may push for 1890 borders.

Zaporizhia alone have 80% of its men in Ukrainian uniform or village organized Cossack raiding bands. Steppe ponies and swords included. Those Cossacks will never again submit to a Russian Tzar. There's a rather infamous cossack right now who fought under Stalin as a 12 year old conscript and is serving as hetman of a warband. He's a very good sniper and raider.

He's not the only one. A lot of those tribes have grievances with Russians in general and Moscovites in particular.
 
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Those generals are on Columbian Puro and Fentanyl if they think that will happen. Ukraine will not negotiate until 1991 borders are restored. Then depending on Russia's situation by then they may push for 1890 borders.

Zaporizhia alone have 80% of its men in Ukrainian uniform or village organized Cossack raiding bands. Steppe ponies and swords included. Those Cossacks will never again submit to a Russian Tzar. There's a rather infamous cossack right now who fought under Stalin as a 12 year old conscript and is serving as hetman of a warband. He's a very good sniper and raider.

He's not the only one. A lot of those tribes have grievances with Russians in general and Moscovites in particular.

Funny how almost every war in Eastern Europe seems to open a Pandora's box of hundreds-of-years-old ethnic grievances, with people willing to take up weapons and fight over things that would elsewhere be considered ancient history.
 
Funny how almost every war in Eastern Europe seems to open a Pandora's box of hundreds-of-years-old ethnic grievances, with people willing to take up weapons and fight over things that would elsewhere be considered ancient history.
🤨 Well... North and South America don't have that problem because the people who had hundred's of years of ethnic grievances got pretty much wiped out. In the wars where they were, long standing divisions were used to pit one group of native people against another regularly. Though, last time the USA had a big war on their home turf it did in fact lead to some small degree of conflic over ethnic grievance. In Africa you don't tend to see ethnic grievances, because there's greater ethnic homogeneity. Even then you do get some, and you certainly do get hundred's of years old tribal or similar grievances when things kick off. Same for the middle east, and to a degree south-east Asia.

War is always a good excuse to grab your gun/pitchfork/whatever and settle the equivalent of the local Hatfield-McCoy feud. It shouldn't be surprising that places with centuries more history have grievances going back centuries longer than places that don't have such history. The idea that no where else fights over stupid old shit is just ridiculous.
 
Those generals are on Columbian Puro and Fentanyl if they think that will happen. Ukraine will not negotiate until 1991 borders are restored. Then depending on Russia's situation by then they may push for 1890 borders.

Zaporizhia alone have 80% of its men in Ukrainian uniform or village organized Cossack raiding bands. Steppe ponies and swords included. Those Cossacks will never again submit to a Russian Tzar. There's a rather infamous cossack right now who fought under Stalin as a 12 year old conscript and is serving as hetman of a warband. He's a very good sniper and raider.

He's not the only one. A lot of those tribes have grievances with Russians in general and Moscovites in particular.

Still could happen,if:

1.Moscov had hidden army of robots,T.14 Armata and half apes.
2.Democrats would gave away Europe to Moscov for notching,like in 1945.

If Biden owners agreed to giving everytching to Putin,and his generals knew that,their demands are logical.
 
Pravda commented on Russian Defense Ministry ban on the practice of large ammo depots for 122 mm and 152 mm artillery shells because of self detonation problem the latest batches from the factories have. And the logistical bottlenecks they are under.

So . . . Ukrainian drones or actual Quality Control problems? Or Both?
 
Eh, lot's of Russian arty ammo is from the North Korean's these days, often passed into the CCP and reskinned as CCP products to dodge sanctions.
I forgot about that. Most North Korean factories are prison slave labour and still use hand tools from WW1 for the majority. Which granted works for Russian style tubes. But leaves much to be desired especially with an angry, starving death camp labor force.
 


Guess who's probably about to start selling/giving direct lethal aid to Ukraine.

Though hopefully this also means the US can buy some US-2 seaplanes now, and maybe get some Akizuki-type frigates to go with the FREMM-clone we have set up for production.
 
In Africa you don't tend to see ethnic grievances, because there's greater ethnic homogeneity.

Dude.. LOL no.
In Africa, people who speak almost the same language will up and try to wipe out that other tribe anytime the government permits it. But less for stuff from centuries ago, than from immediate conflict of interest, along the lines of:
"They are taking our land, our jobs, and our women!"
 
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Dude.. LOL no.
In Africa, people who speak almost the same language will up and try to wipe out that other tribe anytime the government permits it. But less for stuff from centuries ago, than form immediate conflict of interest, along the lines of:
"They are taking our land, our jobs, and our women!"

African civilization outside of Eithopia is a young one, europeans were much the same when they were starting out.
 

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