Can you cite the relevant international maritime law which allows the hot pursuit and seizure of shipping without reason or probable cause in a straight/sea lane?
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Can you cite the relevant international maritime law which allows the hot pursuit and seizure of shipping without reason or probable cause in a straight/sea lane?
bintananth
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No, but it's irrelevant because "good reason" and "probable cause" are sorta at the discretion of the country doing the enforcing.
But you said it's "technically not piracy." Where does the "technically" part come into play then? What's its basis? Piracy might just be a term thrown around but you said it's "technically not piracy."
bintananth
behind a desk
*sigh*
It's the Iranian military doing this bullshit. Legally, it's no different than the US Coast Guard stopping, searching, and seizing a vessel 50nmi off the coast of Hawaii for violating a US law or regulation.
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Yes but then that would be hypocrisy as opposed to "technically not piracy."
bintananth
behind a desk
Semantics and pedantry.
Actually they have completely different meanings.
The above sounds like you are making an argument based on international law, not just "your opinion." You said "a country does have the right to stop, search and inspect vessels within their EEZ..." yadda yadda. Who (ie what international body) gave every country this right? This is what I was asking.
You stated it was due to Iranian actions not being piracy for a 'technical right' (read: legal) reason. You also stated what Iran did is no different from what any other country does, we just don't like them. That implies that there is an international law that they are following as opposed to a maritime law established by Iran (or the United States) but since there isn't, I'm not sure why you said that Iran has a 'technical right' to engage in non-piracy.
If it's not based on international law, but Iranian Law, then there's no reason to bring up other countries conduct in a legal/technical sense. That's a case of hypocrisy, not "technical right.'
BTW I found the relevant international laws a few posts ago lol.
Article 101 and 111 seem particularly relevant.
Semantics and Pedantry it is not!
Article II covers territorial and EEZ's.
And Article III covers Straights and Sea Lanes.
Part VII is the juicy part of the UNCLOS tho.
Article 101 and 111 seem particularly relevant.
Semantics and Pedantry it is not!
Article II covers territorial and EEZ's.
And Article III covers Straights and Sea Lanes.
Part VII is the juicy part of the UNCLOS tho.
China
Aaron Fox
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Harder than it looks, especially since Iran isn't Iraq (who can't fight as a group out of a wet paper bag) or Russia. This means that US/NATO SEAD/DEAD tactics aren't cut it, at all.
... Iran doesn't have to nuke a CBG; there are many...
... and beaten to it.
If you think those nukes would survive intact for more than a month. Then I have Beach Front property to sell you in Arizona. Israel will take them out. The US could take them out. Insert random spy agency taking them out. The world won't tolerate Iran trying to stranglehold a major trade waterway.
Iran isn't even Russia, and NATO SEAD\DEAD tactics are designed to deal with Russia.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Not to mention the whole massive fleet of stealth aircraft the US and its allies between them have
Azeri Authorities reportedly foiled an attack upon the Israeli Embassy in Baku, Azerbaijan. An Afghan national was arrested by Azerbaijans State Security Service, the DTX. The suspect in question was apparently only one member of several in this conspiracy.
Some are positing that Iran is behind this attempted attack but that remains unconfirmed as of yet.
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Some are positing that Iran is behind this attempted attack but that remains unconfirmed as of yet.
i24NEWS
www.i24news.tv
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TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
@Husky_Khan Azerbaijan is probably the last country that can be trusted considering how it is an hereditary republic and it seems to be organ harvesting his own dead soldiers.Azeri Authorities reportedly foiled an attack upon the Israeli Embassy in Baku, Azerbaijan. An Afghan national was arrested by Azerbaijans State Security Service, the DTX. The suspect in question was apparently only one member of several in this conspiracy.
Some are positing that Iran is behind this attempted attack but that remains unconfirmed as of yet.
i24NEWS
3 cruise missiles and 8 drones is the official number so far.
I have a feeling things are going to go stupid in the near future, and that it won't be limited to Gaza.
The CCP want the mideast against Israel, because it interrupts the US Belt-and-Road alternative from India to Saudi Arabia up to the Med via Israel. The Israeli's are still useful external enemies for Gulf states to aim dissidents against, and Iran is already friends with the CCP, Russia, and North Korea.
Keep your eyes on Pongyang, Kim may decide to do something retarded while he feels the west is distracted with both Ukraine and Israel at the same time.
Pretty neat to hear about (heavily modernized) Standard Missiles putting in work after over fifty years in service and barely any real world engagements. For the first few decades of the existence of air defense missiles, it feels like missiles hitting other missiles seemed like a real crapshoot but interception technology has come a long way in recent decades.