Netflix Post-Roman Mob Whining About African Queen Cleopatra Series

The Greeks are pissed off too, from all accounts.

Yesssss... Greece and Egypt versus Numidia! I wish I could do a "We Wuz Kweenz!" playthrough of Rome: Total War but alas, Creative Assembly is deeply racist and after a decade or whatever, still hasn't made Numidia a playable faction without mods. 😞
 
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Greece should join the suit. It's a insult both to the country Cleopatra's family came from and the people who she ruled over as a great queen.
Just so you and everyone knows the CCP is sitting back watching all of this. They have a long list of beefs about how their historical figures were portrayed in Western Media and Historical textbooks. People won't be cheering when suits start coming from them so don't give them a greenlight now. And they have way more money to flood world courts with suits than both Egypt and Greece combined a hundred times over.
 
You know one more thing. Something might be brought up in this suit that Egyptians don't want to bring up. They will have to admit that for 100 years Egypt was ruled by Nubia.



Egyptians don't mind the concept of Greeks ruling over them. But they hate the fact the Nubians once did.
 
Just so you and everyone knows the CCP is sitting back watching all of this. They have a long list of beefs about how their historical figures were portrayed in Western Media and Historical textbooks. People won't be cheering when suits start coming from them so don't give them a greenlight now. And they have way more money to flood world courts with suits than both Egypt and Greece combined a hundred times over.
So what I don’t care about the CCP. I don’t want people fucking around with history. Historically people in china like Confucian or Sun Tsu should not be fucked over so neocons can masturbate.
 
So what I don’t care about the CCP. I don’t want people fucking around with history. Historically people in china like Confucian or Sun Tsu should not be fucked over so neocons can masturbate.
Don't give the CCP anymore leverage. They already have their hooks in World Media and some world governments. This only gives them another in.
 
Don't give the CCP anymore leverage. They already have their hooks in World Media and some world governments. This only gives them another in.
Again I don’t care the CCP isn’t the one making every historical figure gay trans or black. I literally am not gonna fall into the psy op many people on the right fall into where they clutch their pearls at Russia or Muslims or China, I don’t care.
 
You know one more thing. Something might be brought up in this suit that Egyptians don't want to bring up. They will have to admit that for 100 years Egypt was ruled by Nubia.



Egyptians don't mind the concept of Greeks ruling over them. But they hate the fact the Nubians once did.

I mean yes, the Nubians did.
But Cleopatra was not Nubian
 
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can we please have a less insulting thread title?
 
Fun fact.
Cleopatra the 7th was noted as being the first pharoa of her line to even bother learning to speak egyptian (as a second language). with all the other ones speaking only greek.
All of these suits are thrown out for good reason. You can't sue for anything that happens multiple thousands of years ago. No court wants to open up that can of worms.
They are not suing for what happened thousands of years ago. they are suing for what happened right now.
Which is netflix releasing a "documentary" (aka, claiming to be true facts) presenting
 
Octavian was the biggest Chad of the entire lot.

Don't call him that. IIRC, he hated that name, since it basically meant Julius Caesar VIII, which is why he always went by Augustus after the Senate made him princeps. He was finally his own man, and out of his uncle's (and his ancestors') shadow.

Yeah, Augustus had his issues. That said, considering his various achievements - the Pax Romana, the most functional government in Europe until the reign of Louis XIV, stabilizing the Roman state after over a century of turmoil and civil war, among others - it's more than forgivable. He certainly had more self-awareness than other men in his position, as Augustus admitted his flaws and delegated to men who could cover for them. Such as Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, for military expertise, and Gaius Maecenas, for the dirty details of day-to-day administration, for a couple of examples.

I wouldn’t exactly call her great while @Jaenera Targaryen might be too harsh as Egypts glory days were done and Rome was rising she still bet on the wrong horse and led to the fall of Ancient Egypt.

Betting on the wrong horse wouldn't be so damning when Marcus Antonius is so obviously deficient. Again, Marcus Antonius was a known drunk and bankrupt, even before he was legally an adult. It was so bad even Cicero denounced him for it in front of the Senate.

I'll admit, she was short on alternatives, given Augustus made no secret of his animosity towards her even when Caesar was still alive, but still, Marcus Antonius? In her place, I'd have stayed neutral, although again, I'll admit this would only have prolonged the inevitable.
 
Again I don’t care the CCP isn’t the one making every historical figure gay trans or black. I literally am not gonna fall into the psy op many people on the right fall into where they clutch their pearls at Russia or Muslims or China, I don’t care.
You better care. Because I am willing to bet the CCP have a secret police station in one of your cites. As well as other shady things going on in your country.

I mean yes, the Nubians did.
But Cleopatra was not Nubian
The point I am making is that these same Egyptians up in arms now are the same ones who like to pretend that never ever happened. So take there outrage with a grain of salt.

Fun fact.
Cleopatra the 7th was noted as being the first pharoa of her line to even bother learning to speak egyptian (as a second language). with all the other ones speaking only greek.

They are not suing for what happened thousands of years ago. they are suing for what happened right now.
Which is netflix releasing a "documentary" (aka, claiming to be true facts) presenting
Points at the response above this one.

Me I don't have a dog in this fight. But I do hate people pearl clutching over this stuff when stuff they should be up in arms about stuff caused by countries like China and parts of their own government taking place. Why is this individual not filing a suit about shady stuff happening in Egypt. Oh yeah going after Netflix won't get him Whacked that's why.
 
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Yeah, could you maybe come up with a different title.
 
You better care. Because I am willing to bet the CCP have a secret police station in one of your cites. As well as other shady things going on in your country.
I mean the fact you and many conservatives seem to be able to argue against China seems to me like their secret police isn’t a threat. I don’t care about the chi come as long as they stay away from South Korea and Japan the place where anime the last good thing in western society is produced I don’t care.

Points at the response above this one.

Me I don't have a dog in this fight. But I do hate people pearl clutching over this stuff when stuff they should be up in arms about stuff caused by countries like China and parts of their own government taking place. Why is this individual not filing a suit about shady stuff happening in Egypt. Oh yeah going after Netflix won't get him Whacked that's why.
Because the Egyptian state is merely filled with corrupt thugs they aren’t trying to insult or wipe out their own people’s history. Also to be quite honest the Egyptian government is pretty good at protecting its history they have to watch out because there are Muslims who are iconoclasts who would try to destroy egypts history.
 
I mean the fact you and many conservatives seem to be able to argue against China seems to me like their secret police isn’t a threat. I don’t care about the chi come as long as they stay away from South Korea and Japan the place where anime the last good thing in western society is produced I don’t care.


Because the Egyptian state is merely filled with corrupt thugs they aren’t trying to insult or wipe out their own people’s history. Also to be quite honest the Egyptian government is pretty good at protecting its history they have to watch out because there are Muslims who are iconoclasts who would try to destroy egypts history.
The Egyptian Government cherry picks it's own history. Others not just me have pointed that out over the years. Things they don't like they hide or try to change the subject on.
 
You know one more thing. Something might be brought up in this suit that Egyptians don't want to bring up. They will have to admit that for 100 years Egypt was ruled by Nubia.



Egyptians don't mind the concept of Greeks ruling over them. But they hate the fact the Nubians once did.


Actually Dr. Zahi Hawass has brought up the 25th Dynasty.

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He also brought it up in a Facebook post, which in turn was picked up by news articles.

Greek Reporter said:
"If we look at the scenes on the Egyptian temples, we can see that the pharaohs are depicted and in front of them were Nubian, Libyan, and Asian captives; the king is always completely different from all of them," he wrote.

"During the 25th dynasty, the Kingdom of Kush ruled Egypt and those were Kushite pharaohs but they had nothing to do with ancient Egyptian civilization," he continued.


The 25th Dynasty has almost nothing to do with Cleopatra or the Ancient Egypt (the period of King Tut and the Great Pyramids) that some African-American celebrities want to appropriate as their own.
 

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