Police Corruption Thread.
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IndyFront
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Why is it always American cops? Why do our police have to suck so bad?
Ixian
Professional Gatekeeper
Because it takes 6 months to complete police academy, and 3 years to be a certified hairdresser.
Over militarized, and under trained.
6 months are for things like State troopers.
Most are only a month or two.
Because there are millions and bound to be bad apples.
On average ours actually stop crimes more then they do this, but bad apples make news
Because the ones in charge and running the unions are bad cops and they protect their fellow bad cops.
First, there's a fair bit of blame for the cops here, the undertraining being an example.
But also, there's little accountability. A cop who does something wrong is not punished because of the police union and qualified immunity. So there's no filter to get rid of bad cops.
Add on a filter that gets rid of good cops (resigning during covid and cops who report cops are fired), and you get a bad cycle.
Now add that America is a more violent country than europe, and is about the size of Europe, and that's why you get these stories.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Training can help but the quality of men who become cops in most cases leaves a lot to be desired, In many cases the men tend to be the sort of scum that are only barely better than the goons who join gangs.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
There's more of a political fight over what cops in the US should and should not be doing, and we have actual free speech here, so you hear about this stuff a lot more.
Do you think the police in countries like Pakistan, China, or Belarus are any better?
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
You literally went and cherry picked some of the worst possible examples, Why don't you go ahead and add North Korea to that list while you're at it?
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I specifically avoided picking NK and Russia because they would probably be the absolute worst.
We could, instead, talk about the police in the UK telling muslim mobs 'we're on your side' while arresting actual Englishmen for mean tweets, or the police in Germany tackling people defending themselves from muslim 'refugees,' then getting stabbed by the people they're 'protecting,' but those actually did make it into the news, so it didn't seem like an entirely appropriate comparison.
My point was about the terrible things we don't hear about.
You also have to add in reporting bias.
"Cop patrols neighborhood, throws some hoops with the kids, and helps old lady across the street" stories just don't make the news, nor do "cop car pulls over person speeding, sees person is having medical emergency, gets them back on the road ASAP and escorts them to hospital with no ticket issued" stories. Yet these happen all the time and if you ask around you can find them, but good news makes for bad press, and if it bleeds it leads, thus even discounting the wild leftist bias of the news you're not likely going to see many news reports of cops just doing their job and being members of the community. Heck, it barely makes headline when cops crash a massive human trafficking ring or other major crime busts... so of course you hear more about the bad cops.
"Cop patrols neighborhood, throws some hoops with the kids, and helps old lady across the street" stories just don't make the news, nor do "cop car pulls over person speeding, sees person is having medical emergency, gets them back on the road ASAP and escorts them to hospital with no ticket issued" stories. Yet these happen all the time and if you ask around you can find them, but good news makes for bad press, and if it bleeds it leads, thus even discounting the wild leftist bias of the news you're not likely going to see many news reports of cops just doing their job and being members of the community. Heck, it barely makes headline when cops crash a massive human trafficking ring or other major crime busts... so of course you hear more about the bad cops.
Even many "regular" cops are absolute scumbags who will obey authority before common sense. The cops ought to lose their job for this. No, I don't care 'but the law said': it was flagrantly and obviously unconstitutional to anyone with a brain.
Obviously, the person who ordered the cops ought to lose his job as well (the mayor I think).
Terthna
Professional Lurker
Interestingly, a number of people in the comments for that video mention that the test in that story was only ever supposed to be used as a preliminary to get cause to send the substance to a lab, not as evidence in and of itself to justify arresting someone; and yet the latter is exactly what most cops ended up using it for. Even worse, apparently there are cases where an actual lab test is never done, and the results of the unreliable field test gets used in court to convict people.
No, most of the time it's cop being reckless that causes people to die unnecessarily.
Though I guess you also have the Uvalde end of the spectrum with coward cops who won't attempt to stop a gunman if it puts their personal safety at risk.
The problem is most LEO depts do not want the best of the best or intelligent cops; they actually have tests where if you score too high, police won't take you, because police depts want people who do not question authority and do not attempt critical thinking about Constitutional issues, just beat cops who do what their bosses say, regardless of Constitutionality.
If a personal is too intelligent, they might question internal dynamics and actions of the police, and the Thin Blue Line brooks little to no deviation from certain narratives.
Idk what departments you are talking about but every department I tried to get with wanted the best and brightest.
Especially the sheriff's office. They had you do like 4 interviews to get it.
And...*Looks at the cop who almost died to a woman basketball player with a knife in a crowded hallway*
Or...I could pull out the large amount if cases that have had innocents get in the way due to policies that restrict cops.
Oh, and departments with bad shooting are often due to lack of training due to funding.
Or be like NYC and have a 12 pound trigger pull