Oscars to introduce mandatory "diversity" criteria for winning Best Picture

GoldRanger

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Having at least one Asian, Hispanic/Latinx, Black/African American, Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native, Middle Eastern/North African, Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander or unspecified other underrepresented race or ethnicity as a “lead or significant supporting actor” is a potential requirement under the new guidelines, with those ethnicities also mentioned for prominent production and marketing jobs. Additionally, employing women, LGBTQ+, members of a racial or ethnic group, and people with cognitive or physical disabilities or who are deaf or hard of hearing might be required for at least 30% of actors in secondary and more minor roles; having a storyline centered on an underrepresented group; hiring creative leadership and department heads; maintaining least 30% crew composition; paid internships; and representation in marketing and distribution also are potential areas in order to be a Best Picture contender.
 
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I mean to be honest, at this point the entertainment industry is becoming an overtly political propaganda organ. If nothing else, the more blatant the propaganda becomes, the better. Because then it will hopefully be less effective.
 

LordsFire

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The Oscars already went down the tubes years ago. First as a promotional tool, then subsumed by PCness. Some years ago there was a movie with a title something like 'Seven years a slave' that won Best Picture. One of the people on the selection committee admitted they voted for it without having even seen it, because the PC culture simply *demanded* it win.

The last set of Oscars I'm aware of where movies won on their actual quality, was back during the time of the Lord of the Rings initial releases.
 

Husky_Khan

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The Oscars already went down the tubes years ago. First as a promotional tool, then subsumed by PCness. Some years ago there was a movie with a title something like 'Seven years a slave' that won Best Picture. One of the people on the selection committee admitted they voted for it without having even seen it, because the PC culture simply *demanded* it win.

The last set of Oscars I'm aware of where movies won on their actual quality, was back during the time of the Lord of the Rings initial releases.

Twelve Years a Slave. I too didn't see it but I'm assuming it was about a war hero and former starving artist who was reluctantly catapulted to the highest levels of power and felt compelled to do his best to bring about Change to his nation and Progress for his people and after twelve years of rule eventually paid the ultimate price for his sacrifice, and the sacrifices of his people. A cautionary tale to be sure. Heavy is the burden of the crown...
 

Bacle

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Never watched the Oscars before, definitely won't watch them now.

Hollywood/PC culture is vanishing up it's own asshole and leaving Bollywood/Japan as the last refuges of honest, non-PC pandering creativity in media and fiction.
 

Zachowon

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Twelve Years a Slave. I too didn't see it but I'm assuming it was about a war hero and former starving artist who was reluctantly catapulted to the highest levels of power and felt compelled to do his best to bring about Change to his nation and Progress for his people and after twelve years of rule eventually paid the ultimate price for his sacrifice, and the sacrifices of his people. A cautionary tale to be sure. Heavy is the burden of the crown...
It was a pretty decent movie about life as a slave towards the end iirc. Been awhile since I saw it.


The movies I like armt Oscar material in the forst place, so I don't care if they do thos.
 

ShieldWife

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I mean to be honest, at this point the entertainment industry is becoming an overtly political propaganda organ. If nothing else, the more blatant the propaganda becomes, the better. Because then it will hopefully be less effective.
Yeah, I would say that Hollywood has been a propaganda organ for decades now. It's just becoming a less effective propaganda organ because it's increasingly extreme and overt.
 

Harlock

I should have expected that really
So to win an Oscar you need to be making films about gays, minorities or disabled people and the hardships of their lives?

Yes Hollywood, we already know.

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Just not too gay, too much of a minority or too disabled right :p
 

GoldRanger

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I really don't get it. The majority of the boldest woke crap is experiencing a huge backlash (Star Wars) or flopping horribly (Ghostbusters, Birds of Prey). They don't like money? Why do they keep churning out that crap? You really want to tell me that Hollywood producers are true believers that care more about this loony-toons ideology than about making money?
 

LordsFire

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I really don't get it. The majority of the boldest woke crap is experiencing a huge backlash (Star Wars) or flopping horribly (Ghostbusters, Birds of Prey). They don't like money? Why do they keep churning out that crap? You really want to tell me that Hollywood producers are true believers that care more about this loony-toons ideology than about making money?

Some of them are. The rest will happily move into the next cultural phase once the backlash breaks the hold of wokeness on culture.
 

Cherico

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I really don't get it. The majority of the boldest woke crap is experiencing a huge backlash (Star Wars) or flopping horribly (Ghostbusters, Birds of Prey). They don't like money? Why do they keep churning out that crap? You really want to tell me that Hollywood producers are true believers that care more about this loony-toons ideology than about making money?


um they do not have a choice Ranger.

The SJW crowd is using Metoo# and outrage mobs to force these Hollywood exects to make these losing money projects, and they have become more shrill and controlling with time because the woke crowd realizes they are riding a very angry and pissed off Tiger that is just itching for a chance to rip them to shreds.

You think we hate the woke? Your not being essentially blackmailed with the message that we will destroy your business and career and steal everything you work for if you don't obey us and will use lies to do it and get away with it. You didn't have your parties, girls, and everything you liked taken away by control freak nobodies on fucking twitter.

We dislike the woke on principle the people who actually run Hollywood have deeply personal grievenes and true hate that's only being held back by fear.
 

GoldRanger

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Some of them are. The rest will happily move into the next cultural phase once the backlash breaks the hold of wokeness on culture.
I wouldn't be surprised if the writers, actors and directors are, but aren't producers usually the pragmatic guys that are supposed to be all about the bottom line?
 

Bear Ribs

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I really don't get it. The majority of the boldest woke crap is experiencing a huge backlash (Star Wars) or flopping horribly (Ghostbusters, Birds of Prey). They don't like money? Why do they keep churning out that crap? You really want to tell me that Hollywood producers are true believers that care more about this loony-toons ideology than about making money?
It's a weird thing to realize but fundamentally, Hollywood doesn't know how to make movies. No really. Consider the ratio of flop movies to classics. Now look at cars and compare the ratio of flops to cars people want to drive. Somehow other companies manage it but Hollywood has a terrible batting average.

You see tons of imitative crap and the idea that "X" will make money and "Y" movies don't when in reality, good movies make money and bad movies don't. The problem is that "Good" is hard and Hollywood doesn't grok it very well. Also there's a natural human tendency to try to go with a "great man" narrative and make it all about the person in charge, forgetting the fifteen dozen other people who actually made it work, and Hollywood runs on name recognition which makes the fifteen dozen people harder to find and realize they contributed.

Star Wars is probably the most useful example. For decades it was "The Genius of George Lucas" and it was only until he turned out an array of turds and poorly-received remakes and sequels that the truth of Star Wars came to light; it was George Lucas' skill at special effects... and his wife being surprisingly good at rewriting and doctoring the script... and the luck of managing to get an incredible array of great actors first try... and Irvin Kirshner turning out to be an excellent director who was willing to tell George "that's stupid."

But you can't just happen to have all those good things happen at once over and over without a lot of work and avoiding "great man" name recognition that Hollywood runs off of, so Hollywood can't duplicate Star Wars.
 

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