Musk actually buys Twitter.

[ThatZenoGuy]

Just to add some more redpills to the table, its real interesting being told great replacement is a conspiracy and then reading an official UN report literally titled Replacement Migration.



Yeah, my opinion is that they aren't really a monolith in as much as they're the elite cultivated by our current system.

The modern Cathedral is less an ancient shadow council in as much as it is a peer to peer network emerging from the post-managerial revolution system.

Same shit as when "Build Back Better", "New World Order" and "New Normal" were 'radical conspiracy theories' until politicians and WEF goons started saying it on live TV.

 

[liberty90]

Do you tried to read the report, or decided to just skim the title?

This is just a scientific report that says the obvious truth: given that old Germans (and other Western&Asian) decided to live their lives with too few children, migration is needed to replace German children that were never born and to pay pensions to childless elders.

Quote.

Major findings of this study include:
• During the first half of the 21st century, the populations of most developed countries are projected
to become smaller and older as a result of below-replacement fertility and increased longevity.
• In the absence of migration, the declines in population size will be even greater than those
projected and population ageing will be more rapid.
• Although fertility may rebound in the coming decades, few believe that fertility in most
developed countries will recover sufficiently to reach replacement level in the foreseeable future,
thus, making population decline inevitable in the absence of replacement migration.
• The projected population decline and population ageing will have profound and far-reaching
consequences, forcing Governments to reassess many established economic, social and political
policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.
• For France, United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, the numbers of migrants
needed to offset population decline are less than or comparable to recent past experience. While
this is also the case for Germany and the Russian Federation, the migration flows in the 1990s
were relatively large due to reunification and dissolution, respectively.
• For Italy, Japan, the Republic of Korea and Europe, a level of immigration much higher than
experience in the recent past would be needed to offset population decline.
• The numbers of migrants needed to offset declines in the working-age population are
significantly larger than those needed to offset total population decline. Whether those larger
numbers of migrants are within the realm of options open to Governments depends to a great
extent on the social, economic and political circumstances of the particular country or region.
• If retirement ages remain essentially where they are today, increasing the size of the working-age
population through international migration is the only option in the short to medium term to
reduce declines in the potential support ratio.
• The levels of migration needed to offset population ageing (i.e., maintain potential support ratios)
are extremely large, and in all cases entail vastly more immigration than occurred in the past.

Of course, even replacement by immigration is solution for a few decades, no longer viable after around 2070. While for example India can for a few decades serve as population source to replace dying population of the west, their own birth rate is already barely at replacement.

World Population Day 2023: India’s drastic fall in TFR reveals population boom ‘thing of past’ | India News - Times of India

India News: India’s population dynamics have undergone a significant shift over the past few decades. Its replacement fertility rate has fallen below 2.1, which m

m.timesofindia.com

Fundamentally, when last population replacement sources in Africa are exchausted around 2100, the pension systems may collapse worldwide.

That is assuming current technology and no Artifical Intelligence, so obviously it's slightly naive.

I expect replacement by advances in AI.

 

[DarthOne]

Do you tried to read the report, or decided to just skim the title?

This is just a scientific report that says the obvious truth: given that old Germans (and other Western&Asian) decided to live their lives with too few children, migration is needed to replace German children that were never born and to pay pensions to childless elders.

Quote.



Of course, even replacement by immigration is solution for a few decades, no longer viable after around 2070. While for example India can for a few decades serve as population source to replace dying population of the west, their own birth rate is already barely at replacement.

World Population Day 2023: India’s drastic fall in TFR reveals population boom ‘thing of past’ | India News - Times of India

India News: India’s population dynamics have undergone a significant shift over the past few decades. Its replacement fertility rate has fallen below 2.1, which m

m.timesofindia.com

Fundamentally, when last population replacement sources in Africa are exchausted around 2100, the pension systems may collapse worldwide.

That is assuming current technology and no Artifical Intelligence, so obviously it's slightly naive.

I expect replacement by advances in AI.

A lot can change in a few decades.

 

[liberty90]

A lot can change in a few decades.

Yes, the projections of the population replacement study are obviously ceteris paribus.

 

[S'task]

This is just a scientific report that says the obvious truth: given that old Germans (and other Western&Asian) decided to live their lives with too few children,

"Decided"...

Yes... they decided... Due to a taxation and employment regime structured by the government that discouraged childbearing and turned it from an economic benefit to a economic luxury.

The way our entire society has been shifted since after WW2 has been to make having children economically unviable unless one is of the middle and upper class. This was not by accident either if you go back and look at the early 20th century eugenicists, they explicitly wanted to create a regime where the lower, undesirable classes, were outbred and eliminated themselves. They accomplished this with a combination of abortion on demand and creating a situation where children were economic luxuries. Further they encouraged anti-natal feeling by the research and academics they allowed to have large platforms and by media they encourage production of, thus demoralizing many in the world away from having children.

The government could very easily change these incentives and create circumstances where children are profitable for a family, they could also change their spending patterns to remove funding from those academics and media that discourage and demonize humanity and childbearing. They chose not to do those things and continue to choose not to do those things... and then encourage migration from elsewhere to replace the population that was not born.

So yeah, the report in question is just about how westerners "chose" not to have children and thus immigration is needed. But to say they "chose" that of their own free will is to ignore the entire cultural, economic, and social structures around them that discouraged childbearing created by the government.

 

[Scottty]

"Decided"...

Yes... they decided... Due to a taxation and employment regime structured by the government that discouraged childbearing and turned it from an economic benefit to a economic luxury.

The way our entire society has been shifted since after WW2 has been to make having children economically unviable unless one is of the middle and upper class. This was not by accident either if you go back and look at the early 20th century eugenicists, they explicitly wanted to create a regime where the lower, undesirable classes, were outbred and eliminated themselves. They accomplished this with a combination of abortion on demand and creating a situation where children were economic luxuries. Further they encouraged anti-natal feeling by the research and academics they allowed to have large platforms and by media they encourage production of, thus demoralizing many in the world away from having children.

The government could very easily change these incentives and create circumstances where children are profitable for a family, they could also change their spending patterns to remove funding from those academics and media that discourage and demonize humanity and childbearing. They chose not to do those things and continue to choose not to do those things... and then encourage migration from elsewhere to replace the population that was not born.

So yeah, the report in question is just about how westerners "chose" not to have children and thus immigration is needed. But to say they "chose" that of their own free will is to ignore the entire cultural, economic, and social structures around them that discouraged childbearing created by the government.

Rather subverts the supposed goal there if they also then pay out money to completely indigent people to have children.
Most of those "replacement" migrants are just going to be welfare moochers - we all know that.

 

[DarthOne]

Rather subverts the supposed goal there if they also then pay out money to completely indigent people to have children.
Most of those "replacement" migrants are just going to be welfare moochers - we all know that.

Question is- why didn’t they?

I have my suspicions.

 

[Captain X]

This is just a scientific report that says the obvious truth: given that old Germans (and other Western&Asian) decided to live their lives with too few children, migration is needed to replace German children that were never born and to pay pensions to childless elders.

And then the country becomes no longer German.

 

[ShieldWife]

The same people who told Europeans that population was a huge problem and encouraged smaller families are the ones who now say that they need immigrants to pay for social services. Saving the environment wasn’t the true goal then and supporting seniors isn’t the true goal now.

 

[mrttao]

"Decided"...

Yes... they decided... Due to a taxation and employment regime structured by the government that discouraged childbearing and turned it from an economic benefit to a economic luxury.

The way our entire society has been shifted since after WW2 has been to make having children economically unviable unless one is of the middle and upper class. This was not by accident either if you go back and look at the early 20th century eugenicists, they explicitly wanted to create a regime where the lower, undesirable classes, were outbred and eliminated themselves. They accomplished this with a combination of abortion on demand and creating a situation where children were economic luxuries. Further they encouraged anti-natal feeling by the research and academics they allowed to have large platforms and by media they encourage production of, thus demoralizing many in the world away from having children.

The government could very easily change these incentives and create circumstances where children are profitable for a family, they could also change their spending patterns to remove funding from those academics and media that discourage and demonize humanity and childbearing. They chose not to do those things and continue to choose not to do those things... and then encourage migration from elsewhere to replace the population that was not born.

So yeah, the report in question is just about how westerners "chose" not to have children and thus immigration is needed. But to say they "chose" that of their own free will is to ignore the entire cultural, economic, and social structures around them that discouraged childbearing created by the government.

And lets not forget the anti marriage stuff like "wife can divorce you on demand and make you into a slave. she will get the kids, if any". and even in some countries "paternity tests are illegal. you will be a slave for eternity to pay for kids that are not yours" and various other things that scare men away from the process of having kids.

 

[ShieldWife]

And lets not forget the anti marriage stuff like "wife can divorce you on demand and make you into a slave. she will get the kids, if any". and even in some countries "paternity tests are illegal. you will be a slave for eternity to pay for kids that are not yours" and various other things that scare men away from the process of having kids.

This!

Feminism in general causes women not to have children. You can’t be home pregnant, nursing, it taking care of kids - you need to be out being a career woman. Greater “sexual liberation” increases divorce rates and creates less stability to have children. People wait until they are older to get married and have kids even when they are so inclined. Modern values oppose families and children.

 

[Cherico]

This!

Feminism in general causes women not to have children. You can’t be home pregnant, nursing, it taking care of kids - you need to be out being a career woman. Greater “sexual liberation” increases divorce rates and creates less stability to have children. People wait until they are older to get married and have kids even when they are so inclined. Modern values oppose families and children.

If countries and people have to choose between modernity and survival their going to choose survival. Thats the primary reason why modernity will end, its just how much utterly pointless suffering will happen between point A and point B.

 

[Rocinante]

This!

Feminism in general causes women not to have children. You can’t be home pregnant, nursing, it taking care of kids - you need to be out being a career woman. Greater “sexual liberation” increases divorce rates and creates less stability to have children. People wait until they are older to get married and have kids even when they are so inclined. Modern values oppose families and children.

Have you ever met a happy feminist?

I haven't.

I've went through clinical depression and I still couldn't imagine being in their miserable state every waking moment.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

>Makes native population have conditions that prevent breeding
>Population scheduled to reduce, by your own doing
>"This is a good thing for the environment!"
>Import people who you believe will be 'superior breeders' like humans are some kind of fucking mosquito or something
>"You wouldn't want to miss your pension, now would you?"
>Natives even more pissed off and displeased now, demanding regime change or closed borders
>"Why would bigots do this?"
The worst thing is people believing this happened due to hubris or ignorance. It's all malice.

 

[DarthOne]

If countries and people have to choose between modernity and survival their going to choose survival. Thats the primary reason why modernity will end, its just how much utterly pointless suffering will happen between point A and point B.

I hope to the Lord that you are right. As for the suffering…(sigh) if they would peacefully steps down I’d be suspicious of them just doing so in order to get someone who will just keep on doing what they did anyway.

 

[Buba]

Meanwhile, back at "X ranch", Musk is holding a BBQ ...
SRSLY - this thread has meandered a loooong way from Twitter and Musk.

 

[shangrila]

At least more on topic than half this thread:

The Ars article on how the next Starship test flight seems likely NET 11/13

The comments section is hilarious, around half are trannies and other leftists raging about Musk acquiring Twitter. For that fraction of the right that has offloaded their analysis of people onto how much their enemies hate . . . well I think Musk might have reached number 2 after Trump.

 

[Jormungandr]

At least more on topic than half this thread:

The Ars article on how the next Starship test flight seems likely NET 11/13

The comments section is hilarious, around half are trannies and other leftists raging about Musk acquiring Twitter. For that fraction of the right that has offloaded their analysis of people onto how much their enemies hate . . . well I think Musk might have reached number 2 after Trump.

To be expected, really.

Trans-trenders considered Twitter their rallying hub outside of public and clandestine Discords: Musk taking it over and making token efforts to curb Leftist bullshit hurt their fee-fees, so they're salty AF.

 

[DarthOne]

Trump-Appointed Judge to Preside Over Elon Musk's High-Profile Lawsuit Against Far-left Media Matters

Trump-Appointed Judge to Preside Over Elon Musk's High-Profile Lawsuit Against Far-left Media Matters | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Good news for Elon Musk.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Good news for Elon Musk.

A judge appointed by former President Donald Trump will oversee the high-profile lawsuit filed by Musk against the far-left organization Media Matters.

As The Gateway Pundit previously reported, Elon Musk's X Corp., formerly known as Twitter, has filed a defamation lawsuit against Media Matters on Monday, accusing the "radical anti-free speech organization" of publishing a report that falsely claimed that X was allowing ads to run next to pro-Nazi content.

The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas Fort Worth Division, alleges that Media Matters' report was "malicious" and "intended to drive advertisers away from X." The lawsuit also claims that Media Matters' report was "based on false information" and that the organization "knowingly and recklessly published the false report in order to damage X's reputation and business."

The Attorneys General from Missouri and Texas, Andrew Bailey and Ken Paxton announced that they will investigate Media Matters for potential fraudulent activity.
Elon Musk's high-profile defamation lawsuit against Media Matters landed in the hands of District Judge Mark Pittman, a Donald Trump appointee with a history of rulings favorable to conservative causes.

Notably, he:

• Ordered the FDA to release the Pfizer files: Ordered the FDA to expedite the release of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine documents. Expressing concern about the FDA's initially proposed rate of data production, Judge Pittman demanded a swifter disclosure, mandating that 55,000 pages a month be made public.
• Blocked Joe Biden's Loan Forgiveness: Struck down President Joe Biden's student loan forgiveness plan on November 10, 2022. Judge Pittman ruled that the plan was an overreach of executive authority and usurped Congress' power to make laws regarding federal spending
• Texas can't ban 18- to 20-year-olds from carrying handguns: Ruled that a Texas law prohibiting most 18- to 20-year-olds from carrying handguns in public was unconstitutional.

Stand with X to protect free speech

Stand with X to protect free speech

On X, people of all backgrounds and beliefs have a place to freely express themselves, so long as they do so within the bounds of the law.

blog.twitter.com

This week Media Matters for America posted a story that completely misrepresented the real user experience on X, in another attempt to undermine freedom of speech and mislead advertisers.

Above everything, including profit, X works to protect the public's right to free speech. But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable. We believe that everyone has the right to make up their own minds about what to read, watch, or listen to – because that's the power of freedom of speech.

Despite our clear and consistent position, X has seen a number of attacks from activist groups like Media Matters and legacy media outlets who seek to undermine freedom of expression on our platform because they perceive it as a threat to their ideological narrative and those of their financial supporters. These groups try to use their influence to attack our revenue streams by deceiving advertisers on X.

Here are the facts on Media Matters' research:

• To manipulate the public and advertisers, Media Matters created an alternate account and curated the posts and advertising appearing on the account's timeline to misinform advertisers about the placement of their posts. These contrived experiences could be applied to any platform.
• Once they curated their feed, they repeatedly refreshed their timelines to find a rare instance of ads serving next to the content they chose to follow. Our logs indicate that they forced a scenario resulting in 13 times the number of ads served compared to the median ads served to an X user.
• Of the 5.5 billion ad impressions on X that day, less than 50 total ad impressions were served against all of the organic content featured in the Media Matters article.
• For one brand showcased in the article, one of its ads ran adjacent to a post 2 times and that ad was seen in that setting by only two users, one of which was the author of the Media Matters article.
• For another brand showcased in the article, two of its ads served adjacent to 2 posts, 3 times, and that ad was only seen in that setting by one user, the author of the Media Matters article.
• Media Matters' article also highlights nine posts they believe should not be allowed on X. Upon evaluation, only one of the nine organic posts featured in the article violated our content policies, and we've taken action on it under our Freedom of Speech, Not Reach enforcement approach.

Here's a summary on this all:

1. X will protect the public's right to free expression. We will not allow agenda-driven activists, or even our own profits, to deter our vision.
2. Everyone has a choice on X. User and brand controls on X are superior to a year ago.
3. Data wins over allegations. Media Matters does not reflect the user experience on X.

As we've seen in some parts of the world, when free expression is taken away, it is very dangerous and hard to get back – that's why the people who came before us fought so hard to protect. Without freedom of speech we lose the checks and balances critical to a thriving democracy. We must defend our individual rights as if our lives, and flourishing society, depend on it.

If you're really in on protecting free speech, then we all need to protect it completely.

Stand with X to protect free speech.

 

[DarthOne]

Elon Musk to meet with Israeli president Isaac Herzog tomorrow to discuss "antisemitism on X."

Looks like Elon is getting called in front of the Sanhedrin again.

Why does our Free Speech depend upon the demands of a tiny country halfway around the world?




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I'm not sure why an American company CEO has to answer to a foreign government about why he permits Constitutionally protected Free Speech and Freedom to have political opinions on an American social media platform.