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Found this article on the Spread of Woke into the Merchant Marine canceling religion:

Leftist Politics Infiltrating Merchant Marine

Leftist politics infiltrating Merchant Marine Academy, midshipmen warn: 'Last frontier for woke ideology'

Terresa Monroe-HamiltonMarch 3, 2023

Former and current midshipmen from the Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point, New York, are warning that "woke" ideology is infecting the school and its poisonous influence is spreading under the leadership of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
The prestigious Merchant Marine Academy falls under the purview of the Department of Transportation. According to its website, it educates leaders "who are inspired to serve the national security, marine transportation, and economic needs of the United States."

In January, the academy was splashed across the headlines following a controversy over a historical painting by Hunter Wood called "Christ on the Water." It shows Jesus Christ walking on the water toward merchant mariners lost at sea.

After a complaint was filed by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) which deemed the painting as offensive, the academy placed a white curtain over it, according to Fox News Digital.

MRFF president and founder Michael Weinstein wrote a letter to USMMA Superintendent Vice Adm. Joanna M. Nunan on Jan. 10 arguing that the painting constituted a violation of the First Amendment's clause forbidding the establishment of religion.

That letter prompted a petition and letters of protest to the admiral from Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), and other members of Congress. The academy then announced that the painting would be uncovered but moved to the school's chapel which, according to multiple sources, is prone to flooding.

Cruz blasted Nunan for the move, claiming he is "deeply concerned" by her "flawed understanding of the First Amendment to our Constitution" and that the time, "place and manner restrictions such as those Mr. Weinstein alleges are safeguards against government over-regulation of private speech."

The senator remarked that Nunan's "response to Mr. Weinstein's email" is "not only unsupported by the law, but is manifestly unnecessary." The senator also said the response "raises the question of whether you, like Mr. Weinstein, are overtly hostile to religion."


A number of anonymous sources told Fox News Digital that during a recent question-and-answer session with Nunan about the Jesus painting, a midshipman received a standing ovation from other students after he asked why a painting of Jesus was being removed because it might offend some people, while material promoting LGBTQ was allowed to be displayed despite potentially offending people of faith.

"I'm just kind of paraphrasing, but [Nunan] basically said that you have to glorify the minority," one source recalled.
The controversy over the painting is just one symptom of woke-ism that is "absolutely" infiltrating the USMMA, according to midshipman John Guettlein, who graduated from the academy in 2022. He spoke with Fox News about the situation.

He claims that the COVID vaccine policies kicked off the trend. Many midshipmen pushed back against the forced vaccinations and the school started cracking down on them in 2021.

"It was basically [get the vaccine] or get kicked out of the academy, and for an entire year, they were picking off one by one," he recounted.

"A lot of the freshmen, a lot of my friends, just straight-up left because they didn't want to get into a school that was threatening that. There was just no hope for them," Guettlein remarked.

Multiple sources told Fox News Digital that midshipmen who would not submit to the jab were prohibited from eating dinner in the school's Delano Hall and were required to pick up boxed food instead.

"So, there were a lot of times when people were missing meals," Guettlein recalled. "People had to order out and pay for their own food. As freshmen, you can't even order out technically, so it would be upperclassmen getting them food."

A 2021 email that was obtained by Fox News Digital shows that former USMMA Superintendent Vice Adm. Joachim Buono stated that the dining hall policy "encourages unvaccinated midshipmen to become vaccinated."

Guettlein and another unnamed source accused the academy of ostracizing the unvaccinated from friends, segregating them in formation, and requiring them to wear masks and social distance.

A spokesperson for the US Maritime Administration said in a statement to Fox News Digital that the USMMA is a place where "essential values of mutual respect and dignity are firmly upheld, and we take pride in establishing a campus that reflects excellence, service, and honor."

"During the COVID-19 pandemic, the Academy put in place precautions to ensure the health and wellbeing of all midshipmen, faculty, and staff, and we disagree with any assertions that any member of our community was mistreated for any reason related to the pandemic," the spokesperson declared.

"There was a lot less woke stuff around campus, and then it's just slowly crept in," claimed a midshipman who has been there since 2021. He pointed out that the main passageway of the school was adorned with a mural promoting LGBTQ ideology.

According to her official USMMA biography, Nunan, who became the school's first female superintendent in December, boasts that she has helped "spearhead efforts to expand diversity and inclusion in the Coast Guard."

A senior midshipman blamed both Nunan and Buttigieg for cultural changes at the academy, claiming the transportation secretary "has put a bunch of people in power" with "a warped perspective" on diversifying the school.

"They're trying to institute cultural change, but on the ground, the midshipman culture has not changed," he commented.
"It's unfortunate, the politicization that our school has undergone from the new administration, and it only seems to be getting worse," the midshipman continued. "And quite frankly, I'm happy that I'm on my way out because you really can't speak up politically here. You could easily get reprimanded. It is what it is, whereas it used not to be the case."

"It's very clear that there are ideological differences between the people in charge here and the people who actually go here, as well as the majority of the professors who are actually conservative themselves," he stated, adding that he and his peers at times feel "targeted."

"It's almost like we're the last frontier for woke ideology," he concluded.
how dare these radicals go against their betters. Buttigieg loves trains and how they run on him and others and them going against his decisions is a clear anti-LGBTQAIP+ movement. hopefully these extremists will be cleansed. if these people want to be apart of this great nation they need to accept the ideology of their betters.
 
Western religious revivalism isn't all going towards Christianity, it's more of a spiritual diaspora. Which isn't terrible, since everything bad about the Left came out of Christian thought, modern Leftism is a natural consequence of Liberalism, and Liberalism is a natural consequence of Protestantism.

Not...Really? Christianity when it first started seemed to be more or less a reaction to the cultural war that was going on between the Jewish elites and the Roman empire at that time. On one side you had the jewish nationalist who thought a messiah would arise, reforge the line of David and make them the supreme global power once more (Basically Aragorn's subplot from LOTR) meanwhile you had the romans who were already starting to clumble under thier own weight and was trying to do everything in thier power to keep thier territories.

Christianity while not outright anti-civilization was essentially a bird to both of these groups going as far as to say the following "

19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

I should note and this is just my opinion, but seeing as the church did have wealthy benefactors i'm likely to think the word store means "Put focus on"

the amplfied translates as followed

19 "Do not store up for yourselves [material] treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in and steal; 21 for where your treasure is, there your heart [your wishes, your desires; that on which your life centers] will be also.

In any case, Christianity does shift things from expansionism to Spiritualism which at the time was disastrous to both the Jews and the Romans as they needed something to legitimize their claims on the world stage, the roman empire sort of circumvented this by making Christianity the official state religion and Christianity begins to adapt more roman customs (iconography wasn't a thing till later on nor was creating vast temples)

By the time Protestantism came around the roman catholic church was far more roman than it was catholic and Protestantism was originally intended to get Christianity back to its routes. The problem was too fold A. The founders brought much of their catholicism with them (sounds familiar) B. They fell into the same trap the jews did and wanted to establish a Christian globalist empire. (IE the thousand year reign)

Leftist too want a one-world global empire under one banner but they reject all forms of Christianity rather instead to replace it with thier own gods and the Gospel of Christ being replaced with The Gospel of Primitivism, the big two being Gaia (Whom they refer to as mother earth or mother nature) and Marx, Darwin used to be a part of this pantheon as well but he's been cast out as science seems to grow more and more at odds with their gospel of Primitivism.

The root problem of all three seems to be this need to put the entire world in the hands of the oligarchy whether it's a religious-based or nobility based and it just doesn't work. meanwhile Christianity itself in it's orginal form is playing a different game all-together.
 
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Yinko

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Not...Really? Christianity when it first started seemed to be more or less a reaction to the cultural war that was going on between the Jewish elites and the Roman empire at that time. On one side you had the jewish nationalist who thought a messiah would arise, reforge the line of David and make them the supreme global power once more (Basically Aragorn's subplot from LOTR) meanwhile you had the romans who were already starting to clumble under thier own weight and was trying to do everything in thier power to keep thier territories.

Christianity while not outright anti-civilization was essentially a bird to both of these groups going as far as to say the following "

19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

I should note and this is just my opinion, but seeing as the church did have wealthy benefactors i'm likely to think the word store means "Put focus on"

the amplfied translates as followed

19 "Do not store up for yourselves [material] treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in and steal; 21 for where your treasure is, there your heart [your wishes, your desires; that on which your life centers] will be also.

In any case, Christianity does shift things from expansionism to Spiritualism which at the time was disastrous to both the Jews and the Romans as they needed something to legitimize their claims on the world stage, the roman empire sort of circumvented this by making Christianity the official state religion and Christianity begins to adapt more roman customs (iconography wasn't a thing till later on nor was creating vast temples)

By the time Protestantism came around the roman catholic church was far more roman than it was catholic and Protestantism was originally intended to get Christianity back to its routes. The problem was too fold A. The founders brought much of their catholicism with them (sounds familiar) B. They fell into the same trap the jews did and wanted to establish a Christian globalist empire. (IE the thousand year reign)

Leftist too want a one-world global empire under one banner but they reject all forms of Christianity rather instead to replace it with thier own gods and the Gospel of Christ being replaced with The Gospel of Primitivism, the big two being Gaia (Whom they refer to as mother earth or mother nature) and Marx, Darwin used to be a part of this pantheon as well but he's been cast out as science seems to grow more and more at odds with their gospel of Primitivism.

The root problem of all three seems to be this need to put the entire world in the hands of the oligarchy whether it's a religious-based or nobility based and it just doesn't work. meanwhile Christianity itself in it's orginal form is playing a different game all-together.
That's valid, but also not what I was talking about. I was looking at the part of Christianity which emphasizes egalitarianism and fairness. A moderate view of this is in the roots of Protestantism, it's taken a bit further by Humanists who then use it to set up voting rights and classless legal codes, and then taken to a hyperbolic extreme by modern equity enthusiasts.
 
That's valid, but also not what I was talking about. I was looking at the part of Christianity which emphasizes egalitarianism and fairness. A moderate view of this is in the roots of Protestantism, it's taken a bit further by Humanists who then use it to set up voting rights and classless legal codes, and then taken to a hyperbolic extreme by modern equity enthusiasts.

Also valid but I'd argue that as far as egalitarian goes the left is hypocritical at best and downright pharasees at worst. These guys are so tolerant they support minorities by... bullying minorities who don't Carter to their demands. Judge them by there fruits not thier words.
 

Cherico

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Also valid but I'd argue that as far as egalitarian goes the left is hypocritical at best and downright pharasees at worst. These guys are so tolerant they support minorities by... bullying minorities who don't Carter to their demands. Judge them by there fruits not thier words.

The Pharasees were corrupt this is true (The Rabbiatical system was created in response to a lot of their issues.) But they were in no way nearly as bad as the wookies. The Pharasees were in fact limited by jewish tradition and law which gave them built in restraints, wokkies however have no restraints at all.
 
The Pharasees were corrupt this is true (The Rabbiatical system was created in response to a lot of their issues.) But they were in no way nearly as bad as the wookies. The Pharasees were in fact limited by jewish tradition and law which gave them built in restraints, wokkies however have no restraints at all.

I use them as examples because they were the ones primarily brought up in the gospel but your point is valid.
 

LordsFire

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That's valid, but also not what I was talking about. I was looking at the part of Christianity which emphasizes egalitarianism and fairness. A moderate view of this is in the roots of Protestantism, it's taken a bit further by Humanists who then use it to set up voting rights and classless legal codes, and then taken to a hyperbolic extreme by modern equity enthusiasts.

This is a ridiculously one-dimensional perspective on things.

Wokists reject literally everything about Christian philosophy and ethos except Egalitarianism, and they don't actually even practice that either, they just pretend to.

It's like saying all religions and philosophies root from Christianity because they recognize that human beings exist. So what if they differ on literally everything else, that they're the same on this one thing means they're all rooted in Christianity!
 

Doomsought

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The thing that make Christians more civilized than other religions is how they create a guilt culture. Everywhere else you have shame culture or worse fear culture.
 
Source on this one? I've looked around but can't seem to find any references to it anywhere. Closest I could find involved a 12-year-old girl in Paris, France, and that was apparently done by a woman.

@Jormungandr

Is this the one?
Murder of Elin Krantz - Wikipedia

Maybe this one?

But yes, you can find other stories like this:

My understanding is that Sweden has "solved" this problem by simply no longer recording the ethnicity of sexual assault and rape perpetrators. I mean, you know it's bad even when the BBC does segments on the phenomena.
 

JasonSanjo

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@Jormungandr

Is this the one?
Murder of Elin Krantz - Wikipedia

Maybe this one?

But yes, you can find other stories like this:

My understanding is that Sweden has "solved" this problem by simply no longer recording the ethnicity of sexual assault and rape perpetrators. I mean, you know it's bad even when the BBC does segments on the phenomena.
None of those match the details given, no.

But yeah, there was a huge debacle a number of years ago when the Swedish police was no longer allowed to record the ethnicity of violent criminals, nor even follow up on possible links if there happened to be an ethnic component to them: as in, let's say the police are monitoring Suspect A in regards to a particular case of violent crime and, through him, come to learn of Suspect B involved in the same case - only, if both suspects happen to be of the same foreign ethnicity then the police literally weren't allowed to start monitoring Suspect B because it could be construed as "racist profiling" even though they had plenty of evidence to suggest Suspect B was directly involved and thus should be monitored according to standard police procedure. I don't think the latter is still the case (at the least I haven't heard of any such cases recently), but I could be wrong.

In any case, the new government has already put forth suggested law changes that will allow the police to crack down on (mostly immigrant) violent gangs and more easily kick foreign-born violent criminals out of the country permanently, so things are slowly moving in a better direction.
 

Cherico

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None of those match the details given, no.

But yeah, there was a huge debacle a number of years ago when the Swedish police was no longer allowed to record the ethnicity of violent criminals, nor even follow up on possible links if there happened to be an ethnic component to them: as in, let's say the police are monitoring Suspect A in regards to a particular case of violent crime and, through him, come to learn of Suspect B involved in the same case - only, if both suspects happen to be of the same foreign ethnicity then the police literally weren't allowed to start monitoring Suspect B because it could be construed as "racist profiling" even though they had plenty of evidence to suggest Suspect B was directly involved and thus should be monitored according to standard police procedure. I don't think the latter is still the case (at the least I haven't heard of any such cases recently), but I could be wrong.

In any case, the new government has already put forth suggested law changes that will allow the police to crack down on (mostly immigrant) violent gangs and more easily kick foreign-born violent criminals out of the country permanently, so things are slowly moving in a better direction.

no better teacher then pain.
 

Jormungandr

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@Jormungandr

Is this the one?
Murder of Elin Krantz - Wikipedia

Maybe this one?

But yes, you can find other stories like this:

My understanding is that Sweden has "solved" this problem by simply no longer recording the ethnicity of sexual assault and rape perpetrators. I mean, you know it's bad even when the BBC does segments on the phenomena.
It might be, but I do remember her body being stuffed in a suitcase. Maybe my memory is mixing the one with the French schoolgirl. shrug

Yeah, they're trying to do the Three Blind Monkeys approach, like Germany, even when their society is crumbling. Swedish women are being harassed and attacked on a regular basis.

But, when you blindly import the Third World and a bunch of barbarians whom believe anyone who isn't a faithful member of their religion is subhuman or an object to be used/abused at worst, what would you expect? shrug
 

Yinko

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The thing that make Christians more civilized than other religions is how they create a guilt culture. Everywhere else you have shame culture or worse fear culture.
I think Western society needs a lot more shame and a bit less guilt. It's less of a spectrum and more of a pie chart, percentages of a whole. guilt and shame each create very eccentric cultural niches, I suspect that they can balance each other out. The issue is that guild comes from more individualistic cultures and shame from more communal cultures, so you'd need to balance that aspect and then the cultural-punishments would follow.

Communal is a shitty short-hand for what is really "placing roles ahead of identity". Again, how much you do this alters a lot of down-stream factors in a society. From a western standpoint I'd say that about 1/3 role significant would be pretty good. That would mean that your social role as a gender specific spouse and parent, or boss and subordinate, would be significant but not completely overpowering.

By contrast, in my experience a lot of Asian workers tend to go from submissive when being employees to being assholes when they become employers, because they were responding to a role shift. The behavior is not a part of their personality, they are taking the role as a rather thick mask over what little personality they allow themselves to have. The same holds true with spousal relationships in that context, where wives are not submissive in the western sense, but rather embody the role of the "good wife" which is defines as being subordinate to the husband.

If those aspects sound good to you then you'd probably want something closer to a 2/3 role significance. That would leave individualism to be less than Japan but more than Thailand.
 

ATP

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so long as the communist lose. how the west changes as the rot is purged is hard to predict.
They arleady lost.Every society need people working for it.Old commies had it.Muslims have it.Neocommies who try take over - all they have is lgbt+52.They would not work for anytching,becouse they are parasites.
 

Cherico

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And I get it but at some point a there needs to be a call to action or the conversation needs to be put to rest.

A call to action would be at minimum 40 years screaming into the wind. And ending the conversation just risks making the end point even worse.

We're basically stuck in the suck capable of only minor reforms often at the local level until the tipping point hits.
 
A call to action would be at minimum 40 years screaming into the wind. And ending the conversation just risks making the end point even worse.

We're basically stuck in the suck capable of only minor reforms often at the local level until the tipping point hits.
Then perhaps I should block you before I say something that gets me in trouble.

You may be willing to spend the rest of your life whining and moaning but I rather go down on my feet.
 
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