Skitzyfrenic
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I remember reading that the Jews who were enslaved by the Egyptians were known to be slaves, not by being chattel, but because they paid taxes at a rate of 20% and freemen did not pay such high taxes.
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The Old Testament does seem to equate being taxed heavily with being a slave sometimes. Or one kingdom "was subject to" another one not because that second kingdom made their laws, but in the form of having to pay tribute.
Later on we see those empires were it's both of the above - the Romans for example.
mrttao
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Taxation is literally theft.
Someone is literally using the threat of being imprisoned in a rape camp to steal your money.
Some level taxation is a necessary evil. But being NECESSARY does not mean it is NOT theft.
This is exactly how to look at it, IMO. It's always evil. It might be a necessary evil, but it's still evil.
mrttao
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I should also note that I was specifically toning things down and not even going into the morality of it....
That is, abhorsen is saying "necessary evil". But I was saying "necessary theft".
Theft is the act of taking someone else's property without permission and recompense.
Nowhere in the definition is there a list of exclusions saying "except when it is done by illegal migrants, minorities, the church, communists, megacorps, oligarchs, the politically well connected, or the govt".
If someone is taking your stuff by force then they are robbing you.
Whether they are able to get away with it is irrelevant to whether or not it was robbery.
Taxation IS theft, and it is ALSO necessary (to some extent. not to the vast overbearing degree we currently have)
True,small Republics could work like that.But - notching bigger then,let say,Estonia.
Poland ceased to be Empire,and then ceased to be at all,when our gentry and magnats decided that we do not need army,becouse nobody would attack us if we disarm.Yes,they really belived that.
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bintananth
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Fuck you and fuck your racist implication six ways to Sunday.
My daughters are both half-black and have samurai ancestors.
IndyFront
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I would but the government took away my gun rights when I was hospitalized against my will, the same government that argues I'm not mentally ill enough for disability. Doesn't mean I can't easily get access to a gun in an emergency situation though
Except no one has at all made any valid arguments that the TikTok bill will make everything banable.
bintananth
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I would but the government took away my gun rights when I was hospitalized against my will, the same government that argues I'm not mentally ill enough for disability. Doesn't mean I can't easily get access to a gun in an emergency situation though
Sweetie,
Between mid-Dec and Mid-Feb I was hospitalized for 37 days. I was being given large amounts of Shcedule II narcotics and prescription IV antibiotics.
I had no business having any access to gunpowder and didn't want access to any firearms. That you wanted a gun is a "you problem" that that they probably were were probably quite correct in denying you.
Ooph, I'm sorry about this.I would but the government took away my gun rights when I was hospitalized against my will, the same government that argues I'm not mentally ill enough for disability. Doesn't mean I can't easily get access to a gun in an emergency situation though
DarthOne
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Accurate.
By which they mean ‘actually caring about your nation, its history, its founding ethnicity and there future- instead of being a blind consumer who won’t object to living in a multicultural hellscape, where the descendants of the ethnic group that founded said nation are reduced to an impotent and impoverished minority who are beaten down whenever they try to object to the above, ruled over by foreigners and globalists’.
Can you tell I am not happy at the state of Europe and the West?
bintananth
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Um, "hospitalized against my will" generally means that you're too out of it to legally make decicisions for your self.
Sure, but there are short term reasons for that, which don't have long term implications. For example, I got a really bad fever once, so much that I though that my attempted sleeping position affected who in the SEC got what bowl game. Now at that particular point, if I had called 911 (and I likely should have), I could have been forcibly hospitalized for being insane. But that wasn't some long term thing, it was literally just the fever fucking with me, and it's never happened before or since. I shouldn't lose gun rights for that.
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bintananth
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I have chronic pancreatitis and a prescription for a narcotic painkiller that's stronger than heroin: hydrocodone.
The last time I went to the ER I asked for something to relieve andominal pain - which wasn't what I was there for btw. I was given 0.50mg of hydromorphone when tylenol would have been enough.
Hydromorphone is about eight times stronger than morphine and I, from experience, knew and said that "I ain't going anywhere for at least 8 hours".
That's nice. But I wasn't talking about your situation. You've made a decision, and it's probably the right one for you. But having that decision made for you, and made badly for you, might be the situation Indyfront is in, and that would suck.