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Not the right kind of wire, but it has the right 'spirit'!
Look, I get where the feeling is coming from, but there really are times where the police are acting in good faith for public safety and generally speaking 90% of most people's interaction with cops will be involving cars and traffic stuff where a cop issuing an order is either because said person is doing something unsafe and creating a hazardous situation for those around them... or due to a road hazard causing an unsafe situation where the cop is directing traffic in order to reduce the unsafe situation.
But sure, ignore the cop redirecting traffic due to a bridge being out and insist they're all out to get folks... I'm sure your car will spontaneously grow wings.
Yinko
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It's just that the instances of bad interactions, especially the ones that get caught on film, are super bad. In a lot of cases I'd say that it was mostly just that the cop was scared out of their mind and high on adrenalin, in some cases I'm fairly sold on the idea that the cops in question were high on a sense of their own power.
Can't even say that the cops always enforce the laws they see as unjust either, there are plenty of instances of cops turning a blind eye to things, when they can. Happened a lot during covid, for instance.
I know plenty of good officers. I used to work at a police station, and i trained BJJ, which attracts a lot of officers.Look, I get where the feeling is coming from, but there really are times where the police are acting in good faith for public safety and generally speaking 90% of most people's interaction with cops will be involving cars and traffic stuff where a cop issuing an order is either because said person is doing something unsafe and creating a hazardous situation for those around them... or due to a road hazard causing an unsafe situation where the cop is directing traffic in order to reduce the unsafe situation.
But sure, ignore the cop redirecting traffic due to a bridge being out and insist they're all out to get folks... I'm sure your car will spontaneously grow wings.
However, as the saying goes, "a few bad apples spoil the bunch," and we have WAY TOO MANY bad apples right now, and not enough accountability.
Calling out the policing system as a whole is a valid criticism right now.
Especially after we watched a summer of love, which included them not doing much at all to BLM rioters, but being pretty quick to smash up 90% of right wing gatherings.
I'm no ACAB lefty. But Abhorsen is right to criticize.
(imagines a policeman shivering in the cold because he didn't get a blanket)
While yes, you only ever hear of the ones who get in trouble never the ones who actually do thier day to day.
There is a Arizona I think jt is sheriffs office that one if thier deputies has a camera guy follow him around and helps show good cops.
You also have all the variousvideos of cops doing good things.
Its just it diesnt make news
Nit what I meant but now I imagine it too
You also have year and years and years of bad cops doing bad things and getting away with jt before they all had body cams.
I've watched so many bad cops on body cams that only got in any trouble because it's on camera. How many still aren't using cameras? And how many got away with being pieces of shit before cameras? Or turn their cameras off? Then it comes down to their word vs the alleged criminal's word, and the courts tend to side with the police.
That said, I believe that that vast majority of our police officers are good people, Zach. People who want to protect us and give us a safe community to live in, and then go home to their families. Like I said, I know a lot of them personally. I worked at a police station. I trained at a BJJ academy ran by an officer, with a ton of officers as fellow students. I have dated an officer, when I drank, one of my main hangouts was a "cop bar" where all the local police were regulars. I've been to events and BBQs, all that shit.
I am good friends with officers. Not just friends, but close friends.
That said, I see major problems with our police system. I see lack of accountability, I see bad officers getting off easily, I see lack of training causing people to get hurt, situations that could be deescalated going the other way, and lots and lots of corruption from the upper brass.
We absolutely have a police problem in the US, and I say this as someone who is pro officer.
Some reforms I would like to see to start, is a 20% training rule. You can schedule it differently, but essentially, for every 4 days worked, 1 day of training. Mandatory vacations, limited overtime, regular psych evals, and a requirement for all officers across the country to wear body cams at all times, and turn them on at all times that they are conducting police duties. I would also like to see higher pay to attract better recruits.
So my solutions are pretty much the opposite of the BLM crowd's "defund the police," nonsense. I actually think the solution only happens with A LOT more funding for the police.
These aren't popular with a lot of cops, but they are a start towards improving things. I am open to other ideas, too.
Do cops do good things? Yes. Are they necessary? Also yes. Are they grossly overpowered and able to kill without many consequences, along with being quite willing to enforce awful laws like covid? Yes again. The ones that quit their job because of covid restrictions were good cops, but they aren't there any more. The ones that failed to enforce bad law are morally good cops, but also, legally bad cops, and risk punishment. If they are directly ordered to participate in something, will they refuse the order? Refusing the order can get them fired.But sure, ignore the cop redirecting traffic due to a bridge being out and insist they're all out to get folks... I'm sure your car will spontaneously grow wings.
Cops decided to arrest people on a wake board because 'covid'. And I could go on. They are not a moral bastion worthy of praise as a group. In fact, as a group, they tend towards simply enforcing laws and following orders regardless of morality. They will absolutely shoot a man for failing Simon Says. They'll shoot a woman holding a baby after they entrapped a family. They routinely steal money in the name of Civil Asset Forfeiture, and they will seize your guns as well. They will arrest you for handing out food to the homeless.
Just for your basic safety, both legal and physical, you shouldn't trust cops. Don't talk to them without a lawyer, because you could end up the target. Be as nice as possible to them out of fear of things getting worse.
A cops job is not your safety. In fact, they have no legal obligation to put themselves at risk to save you. No, a cop's job is enforcing government rules.
I know cops are needed. But they aren't something that should be lauded either. A taxman is also needed, but he needs to be the but of jokes too.
And you're doing that collectivist thing.
You're treating all police as a single category, and perhaps that's accurate in some countries. But in the US it's not. Police work is highly HIGHLY localized, at minimum to a State but often even further down to county and town levels.
What this means is that cops doing things badly in one location IN NO WAY means police in other jurisdictions are as corrupt, given the same training, or have the same attitudes. They don't and aren't. What cops are willing to do in California doesn't mean the cops will act the same way in Nevada... to say nothing of in South Carolina. They're not all the same, and treating corrupt jurisdictions as being indicative of all police across the entire US is just another form of collectivist grievance-mongering like so many people on the left do against "White people". And because of those different jurisdictions they cannot "hold each other accountable", the people who are supposed to hold police accountable are the local government, and if they're failing to do that, that's on them, but it's not police officer in Tennessee's responsibility what another officer does in Oregon, and holding the failures of the Seattle Police department against the police in Arkansas is just stupid.
Are there issues? Yes. Are there some larger scale issues like the willingness of the Police Union to cover for bad officers? Yes. But this generalization is stupid and lumps together perfectly functional and just police officers with those they have no connection to outside of being in the same general career.
I'm collectivizing on them choosing to be part of a collective. It's like collectively saying "Libertarians care about freedom" or "Firefighters put out fires": The job of a cop is to enforce the law, and this is what they signed up to do, and then cops do it. The issue is that the law isn't moral
I'm not saying the cops are corrupt. In fact the 'corrupt' cops, i.e. the ones that won't enforce laws, can frequently be better people. I'm saying that 'good' cops, who just enforce the law, are morally bad if the law itself is morally bad. And the law is frequently morally bad. All the examples I listed in that paragraph? Those were 'good' cops enforcing the law.
This isn't about corruption, this is about what a cops actual job is: to enforce the law, regardless of morality. I don't respect that job. I respect instead the exceptional cop that enforces only laws based in morality. But that's an exception, not the norm.
As long as Cops are simply empty vessels enforcing a law, their moral status will be the moral status of the law, and frankly the moral status of the law is usually riddled with problems.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
First,if picture with norwegian jew is real,then he should choose less painfull method of suicide.
Second - why turkish deity is insect,and why jews fighting it are green lizards? i do not undarstandt that.
mrttao
Well-known member
It is a joke.
it combined the
Reptilian conspiracy theory - Wikipedia
to come to the conclusion that jews are space reptiles wearing human disguise.
OK,that cover jews,but why turkish deity is insect? i have little knowledge about them,but i think,that turks worshipped Tengri,god of heaven.It is a joke.
it combined the
with the fact jews control everything.Reptilian conspiracy theory - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
to come to the conclusion that jews are space reptiles wearing human disguise.
P.S I always thought,that only Bush and Clintons are reptilians! well,maybe Obama too.
Thanks.Likely explanation.They found first picture with lizardman,and used it.
But,since it is about bad jews,why they do not molest some pure aryan princess ?
if i remember correctly,main Hitler problem was jews having affairs with blond womans,at least in the beginning.
mrttao
Well-known member
no that is completely off.
hitler was the "anti communism guy who was also racist on the side".
he hated jews for being bankers, bankrolling communism as the bankers, and being communist (pretty much the entire USSR leadership).
which is ironic because he was himself a socialist. which is communism-lite
although he also hated capitalists (robber barons promoting wage slavery).
he also blamed jewish bankers for WW1
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