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Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
The middle class has noticed. THey overplayed their hand, and their bluff isn't going to work
We'll see.

Experience has taught me not to expect horrible government policies and overreach to ever be seriously reversed if it means some parts of DC may lose money or power. And now the ballot box is...iffy at best.

I see some signs things will turn around, but I am not naive enough to believe that if I have a kid, I will be able to do the same things my parents did with me, with them.

The post-9/11 restrictions/safety theater on air travel and airport operations are never going away (for one thing, TSA wouldn't have a job if that happened), there will probably be fools who wear masks everywhere the rest of their lives even if the powers in DC eventually give up on keeping the Wu Flu shit going forever, and the lives lost/wasted/ruined in last few decades, at the behest of the elites who do not care for the plebs, will not be brought back or fixed.

I learned long ago what it meant to have to face and deal with terminal declines, I'm mental preparing myself for the same thing to happen to this nation.

I'll be happy if I'm wrong, and frankly I pray I am; however I cannot prepare and plan as if things are going to turn around.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
We'll see.

Experience has taught me not to expect horrible government policies and overreach to ever be seriously reversed if it means some parts of DC may lose money or power. And now the ballot box is...iffy at best.

I see some signs things will turn around, but I am not naive enough to believe that if I have a kid, I will be able to do the same things my parents did with me, with them.

The post-9/11 restrictions/safety theater on air travel and airport operations are never going away (for one thing, TSA wouldn't have a job if that happened), there will probably be fools who wear masks everywhere the rest of their lives even if the powers in DC eventually give up on keeping the Wu Flu shit going forever, and the lives lost/wasted/ruined in last few decades, at the behest of the elites who do not care for the plebs, will not be brought back or fixed.

I learned long ago what it meant to have to face and deal with terminal declines, I'm mental preparing myself for the same thing to happen to this nation.

I'll be happy if I'm wrong, and frankly I pray I am; however I cannot prepare and plan as if things are going to turn around.
One needs to remember.
You are younger then most kf those in power.
You will see life get better once they pass.

But, you always make the life of your children better then you had it if possible, or as good as. Can't go to airport? Go hiking on trails and to a mountain. So on so forth.
Adapt to what happens.

Also, people in Asian countries wear masks anyway and they don't always have huge pandemics
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Also, people in Asian countries wear masks anyway and they don't always have huge pandemics
Yes, and Asian countries are not the US, nor have the US Constitution that garuantees their rights and freedoms.

You said we'd 'recover', but what you really mean is 'we'll submit' and accept the overreaches that have happened while lying to ourselves about it being 'not that bad'.

After all, you have no choice about it as a member of the military, why should civies have freedoms and choices you do not.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
Yes, and Asian countries are not the US, nor have the US Constitution that garuantees their rights and freedoms.

You said we'd 'recover', but what you really mean is 'we'll submit' and accept the overreaches that have happened while lying to ourselves about it being 'not that bad'.

After all, you have no choice about it as a member of the military, why should civies have freedoms and choices you do not.
No. By recover i mean we will come out if this stronger then we went into it as.
Did we not recover from the great depression?

I only submit to what I am forced to submit too. I still have plenty of rights gifted to me by the constitution and UCMJ.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
No. By recover i mean we will come out if this stronger then we went into it as.
And how many freedoms will be forever lost to gain that 'strength'? You seem to care more about being strong, than about being free.

No strength is worth the loss of freedom we are seeing now and have been seeing since 9/11, and I would prefer a weak but free America to a strong but totalitarian America.
Did we not recover from the great depression?
Yes, via Hitler being an idiot, doing actual anti-trust work on industry, and actually engaging in infrastructure projects that were worth a damn.

Nukes changed the equation on peer-to-peer war being 'profitable' on the homefront, anti-trust regs are effectively moot even if some people are trying to use them against Big Tech, and the greens tend to fuck over infrastruture projects by forcing years of work in Environmental Impact Statements and court cases to clow down anything they think might harm some piece of the ecosystem.

And now there's the whole 'racial/social justice angle' getting tacked onto a lot of those types of assesments.
I only submit to what I am forced to submit too. I still have plenty of rights gifted to me by the constitution and UCMJ.
That's not the point.

The point is that you seem fine with the rights and freedoms of civies being infringed indefinitely and/or forever in the pursuit of safety/strength for the US/our military.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
Can't have a nation without an ethnic basis, and we gave that up to drive down the cost of labor and virtue signal about how tolerant we were. A country or empire, sure, we have those... for a while. Los Estados Unidos will never be what the United States was.
By Estados Unidos are you referring to Estados Unidos Mexicanos or Estados Unidos de América?

They're, quite obviously, not the same country.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
And how many freedoms will be forever lost to gain that 'strength'? You seem to care more about being strong, than about being free.

No strength is worth the loss of freedom we are seeing now and have been seeing since 9/11, and I would prefer a weak but free America to a strong but totalitarian America.
Yes, via Hitler being an idiot, doing actual anti-trust work on industry, and actually engaging in infrastructure projects that were worth a damn.

Nukes changed the equation on peer-to-peer war being 'profitable' on the homefront, anti-trust regs are effectively moot even if some people are trying to use them against Big Tech, and the greens tend to fuck over infrastruture projects by forcing years of work in Environmental Impact Statements and court cases to clow down anything they think might harm some piece of the ecosystem.

And now there's the whole 'racial/social justice angle' getting tacked onto a lot of those types of assesments.
That's not the point.

The point is that you seem fine with the rights and freedoms of civies being infringed indefinitely and/or forever in the pursuit of safety/strength for the US/our military.
Bacle.
Every country goes through heavy issues. Rome went through plenty, and it lived a VERY long time. We will survive this Bacle, and it will be fir the better.

thinking things will never return to pre 2020 is the thing the left want.. they want us us to "Its over, this is how things will he from now on out." Why give them that satisfaction?

post 9/11 the world changed,, not just the US Bacle.
Can't have a nation without an ethnic basis, and we gave that up to drive down the cost of labor and virtue signal about how tolerant we were. A country or empire, sure, we have those... for a while. Los Estados Unidos will never be what the United States was.
Except our country will never be that if we do what we need too and start local. If states are stricter and stricter on immigration, it will be better. That is how we prevent this.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Bacle.
Every country goes through heavy issues. Rome went through plenty, and it lived a VERY long time. We will survive this Bacle, and it will be fir the better.

thinking things will never return to pre 2020 is the thing the left want.. they want us us to "Its over, this is how things will he from now on out." Why give them that satisfaction?

post 9/11 the world changed,, not just the US Bacle.
We are not Rome, not even close, and thinking that way is trying to cling to a cycles of history mindset.

As for 'giving them the satisfaction' in seeing little way out, I cannot and will not make plans based on 'optimistic outcomes'.

Better to suffer a pleasant surprise and having things be better than expected, than cling to slim or false hopes when there is little reason for hope.

Giving people false hope is the most cruel thing in the world to do, and I have no interest in sugar coating things for 'morale purposes'.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
We are not Rome, not even close, and thinking that way is trying to cling to a cycles of history mindset.

As for 'giving them the satisfaction' in seeing little way out, I cannot and will not make plans based on 'optimistic outcomes'.

Better to suffer a pleasant surprise and having things be better than expected, than cling to slim or false hopes when there is little reason for hope.

Giving people false hope is the most cruel thing in the world to do, and I have no interest in sugar coating things for 'morale purposes'.

We are in for a bad 80 year or so period but tyranny is expensive and the kind of police state our enemies demand is ludicrisly expensive for structural reasons it wont last forever.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
Does it really matter anymore? One will be much like the other.
Well, we are neighbours and have been for quite some time. It is natural for neighbors to have at least something in common even if it's just a disagreement about exactly where the property line is.
 

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