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At least she's explicit that she has decided that anyone who uses humor and optimism against the woke crowd are 'far-right' and 'need to be killed'.

When people say anything close to that on the right, they get piled on so fast, but the Left mostly just shrugs and ignores it.
 
Looks like the Lucy Frown account is suspended on Medium. Honestly that article... looks fake to me. It looks more like something written to make the left look bad. There're subtle ways the wording is wrong, f'rex "We call them paedophiles, we call them racists, we call them rapists, we call them terrorists" The way it's worded implies the left is just saying that, rather than that the right really is those things. "We've done all we can to make them miserable" doesn't jive with professed far-left values, such a person would never admit to deliberately making another human miserable even if it's what they really were doing. And then it escalates all the way to "We need to kill everybody on the right." "This week has been disastrous for the right" also isn't something I'd expect a leftist to say, their rhetoric tends to play up the right as having infiltrated and taken over everything, heck I recall seeing SB threads just yesterday where somebody was commenting on how there was no more left-leaning media, the far right controlled all the TV and movies anymore. "We're in power and they aren't" goes against the narrative.

I mean, it's not impossible, we live in an age that's getting increasingly difficult for parodies because real-life people have become more extreme that last decade's parodies were. This just doesn't look right, er, left to me though.
 
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While I can more or less agree with this one, I've never been entirely clear on exactly how the War on Drugs led to an 'explosion of drug use among Americans and Mexicans'.
 
While I can more or less agree with this one, I've never been entirely clear on exactly how the War on Drugs led to an 'explosion of drug use among Americans and Mexicans'.
Due to the way the War on Drugs is prosecuted, you wind up with a large underclass of people who are unable to make a living any way but drug dealing. They get caught as teenagers, lose several years in prison that a normal person needs to spend on "starter" jobs/college to build up their resume, wind up with a felony record that hoses any future job opportunities, and learn more from other inmates about how to sell drugs to boot. At the end of the process, you've got someone who's just starting their career out in theory, but they're nigh-unemployable at any legit job and have good skills for selling drugs so it's that or starvation.

Additionally, making it illegal made it more profitable. More profit lead to more organized and ruthless groups selling it. The more aggressive and better-organized groups promoted the product more heavily and distributed it more widely.

The same thing happened during the Prohibition.
 
Due to the way the War on Drugs is prosecuted, you wind up with a large underclass of people who are unable to make a living any way but drug dealing. They get caught as teenagers, lose several years in prison that a normal person needs to spend on "starter" jobs/college to build up their resume, wind up with a felony record that hoses any future job opportunities, and learn more from other inmates about how to sell drugs to boot. At the end of the process, you've got someone who's just starting their career out in theory, but they're nigh-unemployable at any legit job and have good skills for selling drugs so it's that or starvation.

Additionally, making it illegal made it more profitable. More profit lead to more organized and ruthless groups selling it. The more aggressive and better-organized groups promoted the product more heavily and distributed it more widely.

The same thing happened during the Prohibition.
See, I understood why making the drugs illegal made them more profitable. Both because, as you said, it’s happened before and my own knowledge of market economics, shaky as it might be at times.

As for the main question...well, that sort of makes sense. I get the part about how possessing said drugs resulted in a lot of people’s lives getting screwed up due to being thrown into jail and the after effects. Though I’m left wondering why the amount of people taking said drugs skyrocketed in the first place after they were made illegal. Though I sort of suspect the War on Poverty is somewhat to blame there. Am I right?

And how should the war on drugs be prosecuted? Besides just ‘make them all legal lol’ as that’s not likely to happen with the more addictive and dangerous drugs.
 
Unfortunately, @Bear Ribs is right on this one. Prison has simply become a BS amd Masters program in criminality.
Okay, still doesn’t really answer my new questions mentioned above.

Though I’m left wondering why the amount of people taking said drugs skyrocketed in the first place after they were made illegal. Though I sort of suspect the War on Poverty is somewhat to blame there. Am I right?

And how should the war on drugs be prosecuted? Besides just ‘make them all legal lol’ as that’s not likely to happen with the more addictive and dangerous drugs.
 
Okay, still doesn’t really answer my new questions mentioned above.
Well it does answer the first question of why taking drugs skyrocketed.

For the second we can look to the Rat Park Experiment, which I'll note jives with my own experiences in dealing with drugs as I've helped some people there.

Early experiments on drug addiction put rats in skinner boxes with access to both pure water or drugged water to see which they preferred. Rats invariably went for the drugged water which heavily informed the War on Drugs. Since addiction appeared inevitable and the presence of drugs made the rats into addicts, the key was removing access to the drugs and there would be no more addicts. Of course, this didn't work because removing drugs from a society as large as the US is a tiny bit more complex than taking a water bottle out of a skinner box.

The Rat Park, however, changed the living conditions. Instead of being trapped in tiny boxes with nothing to do, the rats had access to other rats, mating chambers, and also a variety of rat toys, wheels, and similar devices to entertain themselves with. The results were stark. The Park rats consumed only 1/19th the drugs that bored rats trapped in a box did. Even rats that had been strung out junkies on opiates for two months in the skinner boxes abandoned the drugs in favor of going to socialize and play with other rats once they had access.

Based on this and my own experiences, you don't need to fight drugs but the miserable living conditions that make people want to drug themselves to escape it. People who are in pain will attempt to self-medicate in order to fight the pain, including mental pain. People who are in no physical pain do not down bottles of aspirin for no reason and people who have happy, healthy social lives do not take heroin for no reason.
 
Well it does answer the first question of why taking drugs skyrocketed.

For the second we can look to the Rat Park Experiment, which I'll note jives with my own experiences in dealing with drugs as I've helped some people there.

Early experiments on drug addiction put rats in skinner boxes with access to both pure water or drugged water to see which they preferred. Rats invariably went for the drugged water which heavily informed the War on Drugs. Since addiction appeared inevitable and the presence of drugs made the rats into addicts, the key was removing access to the drugs and there would be no more addicts. Of course, this didn't work because removing drugs from a society as large as the US is a tiny bit more complex than taking a water bottle out of a skinner box.

The Rat Park, however, changed the living conditions. Instead of being trapped in tiny boxes with nothing to do, the rats had access to other rats, mating chambers, and also a variety of rat toys, wheels, and similar devices to entertain themselves with. The results were stark. The Park rats consumed only 1/19th the drugs that bored rats trapped in a box did. Even rats that had been strung out junkies on opiates for two months in the skinner boxes abandoned the drugs in favor of going to socialize and play with other rats once they had access.

Based on this and my own experiences, you don't need to fight drugs but the miserable living conditions that make people want to drug themselves to escape it. People who are in pain will attempt to self-medicate in order to fight the pain, including mental pain. People who are in no physical pain do not down bottles of aspirin for no reason and people who have happy, healthy social lives do not take heroin for no reason.
Thank you!
 
You know, for those of us who've been aware of and taking part in the culture war for more than the last five years, it's annoying to see things like this that basically include the assumption that 'nobody is even trying.'

Yes, the RINOs are half-useless, and keep trying to make compromises like abused housewives. They are not, have not, and never have been the core or even leading edge of the conservative movement. And actual conservatives have never compromised on any of these issues, even if they've lost on...

...well really, just the one, homosexual 'marriage.' And as per usual with the left, that was something they had to ram through in the courts, because they couldn't win it legislatively.

Every other issue is still being fought tooth and nail, and it's not the conservatives who are advocating surrender on any of them.
 
You know, for those of us who've been aware of and taking part in the culture war for more than the last five years, it's annoying to see things like this that basically include the assumption that 'nobody is even trying.'

Yes, the RINOs are half-useless, and keep trying to make compromises like abused housewives. They are not, have not, and never have been the core or even leading edge of the conservative movement. And actual conservatives have never compromised on any of these issues, even if they've lost on...

...well really, just the one, homosexual 'marriage.' And as per usual with the left, that was something they had to ram through in the courts, because they couldn't win it legislatively.

Every other issue is still being fought tooth and nail, and it's not the conservatives who are advocating surrender on any of them.
If anything, the last couple years of the left as a whole saying the quiet part loud has really helped with hardening stances even among the apolitical.
 

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