How is Ukraine the bad guy?
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How is Ukraine the bad guy?
Because they didn't roll over and give the Russians everything they wanted, of course.
Bassoe
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Only halfway-reasonable argument I can think of is the misandrist mass murder of their own civilians by forcing them into an unwinnable war.
bintananth
behind a desk
Because they aren't "Russian".
I guess I'm an oddball because I can see both sides as both good and bad guys in different ways. The people I feel universally for, on both sides.
Bigking321
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I can definitely see both sides here and I want us to stay out of it.
Especially with anyone involved in the wef pushing super hard to start up ww3.
Ukraine is incredibly corrupt and is used by globalists for various evil schemes. Mainly corruption, bribes, and money laundering as I understand it.
Russia is also a problem as Biden has pushed Russia into china's camp and they seem to be trying to get themselves back to world power status.
In my opinion this whole thing is the evil globalist conspiracy vs a China Russia alliance to see which group of bad people gain control in the future.
We should stay out of it and then beat the winner.
Especially with anyone involved in the wef pushing super hard to start up ww3.
Ukraine is incredibly corrupt and is used by globalists for various evil schemes. Mainly corruption, bribes, and money laundering as I understand it.
Russia is also a problem as Biden has pushed Russia into china's camp and they seem to be trying to get themselves back to world power status.
In my opinion this whole thing is the evil globalist conspiracy vs a China Russia alliance to see which group of bad people gain control in the future.
We should stay out of it and then beat the winner.
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bintananth
behind a desk
That reminds me of an old acrynom: BSABSVR.
"Both Sides Are Bad, So Vote Republican".
Um, I'll make my own decision thank you very much.
SchrodingersWehraboo
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First saying we should arm “ukrainian resistance like we did the mujahadeen” now this, keep your stupid ideas to yourself Sean.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
USA is the bad guy for invading Iraq and setting up Ukraine and Russia on collision course.
This isn't just about Ukraine, it's about how the military-industrial complex, DC establishment, and the Western legacy media's actions have caused people to realize that the US is not automatically the 'good guy' in a situation.
Because a lot of people, vets included, are starting to understand the US has no moral high ground in geopolitics after the many botched conflicts we've been in, just to appease warhawks or to allow the warhawks to mission creep themselves into nice positions at Raytheon and Lockmart after they retire.
It's about people realizing the establishment in DC have betrayed the very foundation of our nation to line their pockets with money made by encouraging conflicts or escalating existing conflicts with the help of a willing Pentagon and legacy media.
So.
What I am getting is because they are defending themselves seems to he the just.
Sure the government was corrupt, no government is perfect, but why should we not give them weapons to defend themselves? Why should we let them get thier shit kicked in by Russia? Who is doing this for legit no reason besides wanting land.
Because I can assure you. They didn't start war woth Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania when they wanted to join NATO....
What I am getting is because they are defending themselves seems to he the just.
Sure the government was corrupt, no government is perfect, but why should we not give them weapons to defend themselves? Why should we let them get thier shit kicked in by Russia? Who is doing this for legit no reason besides wanting land.
Because I can assure you. They didn't start war woth Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania when they wanted to join NATO....
if we draw out the conflict make russia bleed as much as possible in ukraine then this becomes russias last war they dont have the people for a drawn out conflict their demographics are that bad, we screw them on this and russia is done as a great power for a generation.
the globalist system has already collapsed, they wanted an empire but they didn't want to compensate or show any kind of gratitude to the people who would make that empire possible. In fact they gleefully disrespected and harrased the people who could make thier empire possible.
Now its dying because the globalists cant understand the idea of a social contract. The empire they wanted will probally be created but they wont rule it because they are unworthy of it.
Someone I talked to had an interesting idea why Putin is trying to take Ukraine. Namely, the oilfields north of Crimea. Ukraine doesn't have the infrastructure necessary to exploit these resources, yet. But if they managed to access it, it would allow for the european nations to become a lot more independent of Russia. Which is obviously something Putin does not want.
I wonder if the Empire comes into being, what will happen to the globohomo?
There would be no global empire,leftist or not.But,after current order collapse,we would have independent countries again.I hope for free Poland,althought i probably get Berlin Sultanate and Chineese Moscow instead.
Well,others who survive would get,i would be maimed corpse
The second worst enemy of the Right is themselves.
Bigking321
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Is their establishment leaders.