Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
Sure 'nough, when I did a check I found that Ancient Chinese Maps and other reports showing that Africa used to be theirs/tributed them are already showing up.




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Cherico

Well-known member
Sure 'nough, when I did a check I found that Ancient Chinese Maps and other reports showing that Africa used to be theirs/tributed them are already showing up.




If they try to take over africa their going to have a really bad time.
 

Zachowon

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At that time, China was the type of nation that destroyed a massive armada in order to prevent it from being a threat in dynastic infighting. While trade routs that far have existed since Rome, they have not ability to project control.
If we make sure they cant.
Get rid of the USN, and you let China grow uncontested, as they are already having ships escorting thier fishing vessels.
 

King Arts

Well-known member
I'm sorry, but this is not an accurate understanding of the world. The Chinese may think they can do it without needing to carry out military conquest, but they absolutely intend to dominate the world, and impose their culture and laws on its entirety.

Did you know they have passed laws that make it illegal to criticize the CCP when you are in other countries?

The Chinese Communist Party absolutely will grow into a world-wide threat if it can.
As far as I know the Chinese will prosecute their own citizens for making "seditious" posts even in foreign countries. But thats just because they have jurisdiction over their citizens, I mean America and Britian do the same thing not with speech but you can't go to another nation and have sex with someone under aged even if it is legal there. It's the same thing, where you go doesen't matter as long as you are a citizen of a nation there laws still bind you. If you are a popular foreign person who is known to be anti CCP they may deny you entry into the country, but well other nations also prevent people who are hostile to their nations from coming in. If you have evidence of the Chinese either kidnapping non Chinese to put them in jail, or arresting tourists for things they said outside of China then I would change my mind. But to me it seems like the Chinese are more interested in trade and bussiness with their vassals like with Africa. They don't seem to want to force their ideology on Africa or convert people like the west does with democracy.
Now I do think that we should honor our comitments and if China attacked Japan or Korea we should defend them, we need to keep our word. Also those nations are good trade partners and allies. However Taiwan we should make steps to pull away our guarantee of their defense for a few reasons. Now to the best of my knowledge if China attacked tomorrow we would have to defend, but our alliances don't have to last for eternity, we can seperate. There are places that are too close to our rivals that we should pull back from.

Because we don't want the Chinese controlling the waters and controlling trade
Do you think if they conquered Taiwan it would make it a powerful navy that could patrol the world's oceans? The way I see it China is the world's largest nation, their people are not inferior idiots presumably. They will catch up with us technologically eventually, this would have happened no matter what eventually unless we actually made China part of our nation, the window for that closed when we refused to use nukes durring the Korean war at the latest. The Chinese have historically not been a naval power. But if they see us as a rival they may decide it is needed and build up a long range navy to challenge us. And then it becomes a game of who can entice more nations to their side. Yes east Asia is on our side, but if China modernizes to our level they could pull nations in the middle east or South America to them since they never oppressed them, while we have towards south America and the Middle East.
 

Zachowon

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As far as I know the Chinese will prosecute their own citizens for making "seditious" posts even in foreign countries. But thats just because they have jurisdiction over their citizens, I mean America and Britian do the same thing not with speech but you can't go to another nation and have sex with someone under aged even if it is legal there. It's the same thing, where you go doesen't matter as long as you are a citizen of a nation there laws still bind you. If you are a popular foreign person who is known to be anti CCP they may deny you entry into the country, but well other nations also prevent people who are hostile to their nations from coming in. If you have evidence of the Chinese either kidnapping non Chinese to put them in jail, or arresting tourists for things they said outside of China then I would change my mind. But to me it seems like the Chinese are more interested in trade and bussiness with their vassals like with Africa. They don't seem to want to force their ideology on Africa or convert people like the west does with democracy.
Now I do think that we should honor our comitments and if China attacked Japan or Korea we should defend them, we need to keep our word. Also those nations are good trade partners and allies. However Taiwan we should make steps to pull away our guarantee of their defense for a few reasons. Now to the best of my knowledge if China attacked tomorrow we would have to defend, but our alliances don't have to last for eternity, we can seperate. There are places that are too close to our rivals that we should pull back from.


Do you think if they conquered Taiwan it would make it a powerful navy that could patrol the world's oceans? The way I see it China is the world's largest nation, their people are not inferior idiots presumably. They will catch up with us technologically eventually, this would have happened no matter what eventually unless we actually made China part of our nation, the window for that closed when we refused to use nukes durring the Korean war at the latest. The Chinese have historically not been a naval power. But if they see us as a rival they may decide it is needed and build up a long range navy to challenge us. And then it becomes a game of who can entice more nations to their side. Yes east Asia is on our side, but if China modernizes to our level they could pull nations in the middle east or South America to them since they never oppressed them, while we have towards south America and the Middle East.
What I am saying is, if we don't stay invovled, China goes unchecked
 

Free-Stater 101

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So has anybody seen this MSN article?
Democrats link Atlanta massacre to anti-Asian rhetoric during pandemic
It's basically going on about the shooting in Atlanta and about how it's a part of anti-asian sentiment, and while that might indeed be the case if proven definitively later there is nothing to prove so now beyond speculation, something the article admits fully!

Authorities investigating the spasm of violence in Georgia say early signs pointed to a disturbed suspect who claimed he was a sex addict and who saw the spas as “a source of temptation that needed to be eliminated.” Authorities said it was too early to know whether the killings were also racially motivated.

And furthermore, a word for the Cherokee County Sheriff in the same article!

Police arrested Robert Aaron Long, 21, after a brief manhunt and said he is the suspect in all eight deaths. Authorities said Long, who is White, took responsibility and they believe he acted alone. He has been charged with murder.

At a news conference, Cherokee County Sheriff’s Capt. Jay Baker said Long told investigators the killings weren’t racially motivated, and that he claimed to be a sex addict who had frequented some of the spas in the past. Baker stressed that the assertions were just the initial things Long told investigators and that “we still have a lot of things to process.”

One of those things is what role, if any, anti-Asian sentiment may have played in the killings.

Just goes to show you how these spin doctors operate! They can make an entire article devoted to pushing the narrative of a race crime, even if they openly admit that there is no proof of it being such!
 

Captain X

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I'm curious what, if anything, government could do to combat that kind of thing, or if all that could/should be done is to have a watchdog group look for this kind of thing and make a big deal out of it.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
How long do you think we will be able to keep China in check? Is it forever? We can’t expect them to collapse the same way the Soviets did. I’m not an economist but from what I know China actually has some private business unlike the Russians back then.
Actually we can; the only reason China's economy hasn't collapsed as of yet, is because of the constant influx of money from western corporations and governments. There's no such thing as a private business in China; they're all controlled by the CCP. If we stopped giving them money, they'd fall apart in a matter of days; though even if we do not, their downfall is ultimately inevitable.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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Actually we can; the only reason China's economy hasn't collapsed as of yet, is because of the constant influx of money from western corporations and governments. There's no such thing as a private business in China; they're all controlled by the CCP. If we stopped giving them money, they'd fall apart in a matter of days; though even if we do not, their downfall is ultimately inevitable.
That would require pointing a gun at the collective head of the western corporations and forcing them to stop dealing with China. They are like babies, crying whenever they have one of their pacifiers taken away. Well, the corpos have had it too good for far too long.
 

DocSolarisReich

Esoteric Spaceman
That would require pointing a gun at the collective head of the western corporations and forcing them to stop dealing with China. They are like babies, crying whenever they have one of their pacifiers taken away. Well, the corpos have had it too good for far too long.

It might be too late, China is already preparing a plan B to shift their exports to Eurasia via the Belt and Road initiative.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
That would require pointing a gun at the collective head of the western corporations and forcing them to stop dealing with China. They are like babies, crying whenever they have one of their pacifiers taken away. Well, the corpos have had it too good for far too long.
They don't even have it all that good; the CCP is screwing them over in the long run. Not that western corporate culture cares about the long term these days; all they care about is the next quarterly earnings report, and giving bonuses to upper management for simply existing.
 

Knowledgeispower

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It might be too late, China is already preparing a plan B to shift their exports to Eurasia via the Belt and Road initiative.
Ah yes because rail traffic is so much cheaper and more economically viable than merchant ships to move around tons of stuff.

Also China is under the demographic gun so all we have to do is be patient and wait for their population to be well below a billion by the end of the century
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Ah yes because rail traffic is so much cheaper and more economically viable than merchant ships to move around tons of stuff.

Also China is under the demographic gun so all we have to do is be patient and wait for their population to be well below a billion by the end of the century
Not to mention the fact that most of the countries they're trying to export to aren't going to be able to buy all that much from China for the foreseeable future, thanks to their own demographic issues and lackluster economies.
 

DocSolarisReich

Esoteric Spaceman
Not to mention the fact that most of the countries they're trying to export to aren't going to be able to buy all that much from China for the foreseeable future, thanks to their own demographic issues and lackluster economies.

Everyone's demographics are crashing. In the race to the bottom, he who comes in last wins.
 

DocSolarisReich

Esoteric Spaceman
America's isn't, thankfully; for now at least. And as I recall; France, New Zealand, and Mexico are doing even better than we are, age demographic-wise. Everyone else though; yeah, they're all screwed.

That's due to keeping the borders wide open. The second generation of immigrants' TFR drops like a rock to native levels as they acculturate to globalism. Of those only New Zealand has border controls and frankly, they have such a low population and technics base, it doesn't matter geopolitically except in the longest of long terms; Australia will be repopulated from New Zealand.
 

Doomsought

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Actually we can; the only reason China's economy hasn't collapsed as of yet, is because of the constant influx of money from western corporations and governments. There's no such thing as a private business in China; they're all controlled by the CCP. If we stopped giving them money, they'd fall apart in a matter of days; though even if we do not, their downfall is ultimately inevitable.
Capitalist economies have a wide range of success, but coercive economies have a wide range of failure. Communist nations have shown a consistent ability to persist while in various modes of failure.
 

f1onagher

Well-known member
It might be too late, China is already preparing a plan B to shift their exports to Eurasia via the Belt and Road initiative.
Its not enough. Belt and Road is like a lot of their empty cities. Large scale construction projects to wow outsiders and provide jobs for Chinese. The cities never get used and the road is running a crapshoot to pay for itself at best. The CCP is hoping that they'll at least be able to use the road to economically dominate the mid-Asian continent, but... congratulations on controlling Turkmenistan.

I'm more worried about the recent announcement that China and Russia will cooperate on a moon base. We're in the eve of a new space race and unlike that last one the winner gets more than bragging rights.
 

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