Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

[Bassoe]

Of course that wont stay true in the case of a chinese war. Well be conscripted and made to die so we can become less free and more like china.

My taxes of course will be taken to support it no matter what.

But sure, for now its volunteer and the people who own the country can die for it. I dont see that happening however.

A draft to fight china would unironically mean the beginnings of the second american civil war. Possible death by fighting in a meatgrinder war against foreigners who you've got no quarrel with, vs possible death by fighting the people trying to use you as cannon fodder. And that's assuming that things don't go nuclear, in which case, shortly, the goverment would be in no state to enforce penalties upon draft dodgers.

 

[Zachowon]

A draft to fight china would unironically mean the beginnings of the second american civil war. Possible death by fighting in a meatgrinder war against foreigners who you've got no quarrel with, vs possible death by fighting the people trying to use you as cannon fodder. And that's assuming that things don't go nuclear, in which case, shortly, the goverment would be in no state to enforce penalties upon draft dodgers.

Ohbwe have quarrel with China.
Trying to control my fucking country

 

[Captain X]

Ohbwe

Uh... What?

 

[Arch Dornan]

Uh... What?

Oh we.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Ohbwe have quarrel with China.
Trying to control my fucking country

Oh but totally trustworthy USA intelligence community (you know, CIA, NSA and the like) claims it is Russia, Iran and Venezuela that are trying to meddle in American matters, not the China

 

[Zachowon]

Oh but totally trustworthy USA intelligence community (you know, CIA, NSA and the like) claims it is Russia, Iran and Venezuela that are trying to meddle in American matters, not the China

I can assure you, China is also on rhT list

We absolutely hate China.

 

[LordsFire]

I know the whole Ronald Reagon quote of where if we let them have on area they'll move onto the next and the next, till only America is left. But that's not realistic you know. I mean let's pretend your worst case scenario comes about China becomes a super power they make Korea, and Japan vassal states and dominate the pacific and Asia. How does that affect Europe or America? Now it will affect trade but, territory wise it won't be a threat the Chinese won't send forces to Alaska or Texas, or New York, or Berlin, or Moscow, or Paris, or London. They have no reason or desire to do so. The most nationalist pro Chinese segments of their society want to be number 1 and regain their glory days of the Ancient Chinese Empire. None of that requires them spreading Maoism to Europe or the Americas.

I'm sorry, but this is not an accurate understanding of the world. The Chinese may think they can do it without needing to carry out military conquest, but they absolutely intend to dominate the world, and impose their culture and laws on its entirety.

Did you know they have passed laws that make it illegal to criticize the CCP when you are in other countries?

The Chinese Communist Party absolutely will grow into a world-wide threat if it can.

 

[Zachowon]

I'm sorry, but this is not an accurate understanding of the world. The Chinese may think they can do it without needing to carry out military conquest, but they absolutely intend to dominate the world, and impose their culture and laws on its entirety.

Did you know they have passed laws that make it illegal to criticize the CCP when you are in other countries?

The Chinese Communist Party absolutely will grow into a world-wide threat if it can.

And this is what people don't seem to understand.
They are a threat to the US hegmon

 

[DocSolarisReich]

And this is what people don't seem to understand.
They are a threat to the US hegmon

So what? Why is US hegemony good?

 

[Zachowon]

So what? Why is US hegemony good?

Because we don't want the Chinese controlling the waters and controlling trade

 

[DocSolarisReich]

Because we don't want the Chinese controlling the waters and controlling trade

Fuck trade. Trade has made the world a cyberpunk dystopian hell scape of piss-earth. Anything else?

 

[Bear Ribs]

I know the whole Ronald Reagon quote of where if we let them have on area they'll move onto the next and the next, till only America is left. But that's not realistic you know. I mean let's pretend your worst case scenario comes about China becomes a super power they make Korea, and Japan vassal states and dominate the pacific and Asia. How does that affect Europe or America? Now it will affect trade but, territory wise it won't be a threat the Chinese won't send forces to Alaska or Texas, or New York, or Berlin, or Moscow, or Paris, or London. They have no reason or desire to do so. The most nationalist pro Chinese segments of their society want to be number 1 and regain their glory days of the Ancient Chinese Empire. None of that requires them spreading Maoism to Europe or the Americas.

China's moves into Africa suggest they're not going to stop at the borders of ancient China. Though I'm sure there's some ancient map that shows that Africa has always been a vassal state to China.

 

[Rocinante]

So what? Why is US hegemony good?

I am not the one you asked, but to answer anyways: Because I want my country to be #1 and set the terms for other countries, and set trade policy that is favorable to us.

Sorry if this offends any of our foreign members, but I'm not going to pretend like the US doesn't come first for me. I live here, and my most important political concern is the US being top dog, because that's what's best for me and my loved ones.

 

[StormEagle]

I am not the one you asked, but to answer anyways: Because I want my country to be #1 and set the terms for other countries, and set trade policy that is favorable to us.

Sorry if this offends any of our foreign members, but I'm not going to pretend like the US doesn't come first for me. I live here and my most important political concern is the US being top dog.

Except the trade policy has explicitly not been to the benefit of the United States. It’s been to the benefit of just about every other nation in our sphere of influence, meanwhile America sheds blood and treasure so that corporatists and politicians can get richer while our jobs continually get sent overseas or taken by the seemingly permanent illegal migrant underclass.

Why should we protect a trade and political order that is of no benefit to the American people?

 

[DocSolarisReich]

I am not the one you asked, but to answer anyways: Because I want my country to be #1 and set the terms for other countries, and set trade policy that is favorable to us.

Sorry if this offends any of our foreign members, but I'm not going to pretend like the US doesn't come first for me. I live here, and my most important political concern is the US being top dog, because that's what's best for me and my loved ones.

US Trade Hegemony is what has deindustrialized the country while simultaneously importing ever larger amount's of cheap labour, both skilled and unskilled and exporting butt secks, dildoes, and pron. How exactly is that good for anyone's family?

 

[Rocinante]

@Stask


Except the trade policy has explicitly not been to the benefit of the United States. It’s been to the benefit of just about every other nation in our sphere of influence, meanwhile America sheds blood and treasure so that corporatists and politicians can get richer while our jobs continually get sent overseas or taken by the seemingly permanent illegal migrant underclass.

Why should we protect a trade and political order that is of no benefit to the American people?

That's why I supported Trump.

He wanted to fix that

US Trade Hegemony is what has deindustrialized the country while simultaneously importing ever larger amount's of cheap labour, both skilled and unskilled and exporting butt secks, dildoes, and pron. How exactly is that good for anyone's family?

Again. That's why I supported Trump.

 

[DocSolarisReich]

That's why I supported Trump.

He wanted to fix that

Reindustrialization does not require global hegemony over the shipping lanes.

 

[Rocinante]

Reindustrialization does not require global hegemony over the shipping lanes.

Look, I don't mean to be rude, but after I've seen your "fuck trade," post, I don't think we are going to come to any sort of reasonable discussion or agreement on this. Perhaps we should agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Zachowon]

Trade is important.
We should be self sufficient and cut off China.
We shouldn't cut off trade all together though.
We can get goods and stuff from other countries, like food goods, and various other goods that can not be made in the US.

And in order to do that, our Navy is the protector of the seas for a reason. Being Number one means we stay the most powerful country in the world, and that is how I see America first. A self sufficient country that has a single culture. American culture, and allows the world to have peaceful trade with each other.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Sure 'nough, when I did a check I found that Ancient Chinese Maps and other reports showing that Africa used to be theirs/tributed them are already showing up.

BBC NEWS | Africa | Africa's oldest map unveiled

China’s long history in Africa - New African Magazine

Despite the current frenetic media salvo unrelentingly declaring China’s “new inroads” into Africa, nothing could be further from the truth. China’s presence in Africa dates back centuries and spanned a number of ancient dynasties.

newafricanmagazine.com

Ancient China in Africa – African Heritage

Posts about Ancient China in Africa written by Dr. Y.

afrolegends.com