Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

[Terthna]

I mean, I’m pretty much at the point where I can say Pinochet did nothing wrong and we need to start handing out parachute free skydiving lessons to leftists and still be pretty comfortable with myself...So the article isn’t necessarily wrong if they’re talking about the fringe right.

If they’re talking about the gentlemanly losers and right leaning centrists, not so much.

Someone I know, I’m not going to get into specifics, is basically the poster boy for milquetoast, small government conservatism, and they get insanely uncomfortable and judgmental anytime I start talking about taking the fight to the liberals if they steal the election.

They recognize what the democrats are doing is wrong, but they refuse to draw a line in the sand where fighting them to preserve the nation becomes acceptable.

It’s the classic modern conservatism that I absolutely loathe. No sin so great, no crime so loathsome, that it would justify even contemplating taking the fight to the streets.

It’s this type of polite, turn the other cheek and ask for another punch that makes me contemptuous of modern conservatism.

Thing is, once we cross that line, we have no idea what's going to happen. Civil conflict on that scale is like a runaway train; you can't just pump the breaks once the destination is reached. Your best hope is that it runs out of fuel and rolls to a stop before it hits something it can't just plough through. Sadly, the regressive left is not only aware of this, but they're banking on everyone else believing that the potential cost of such a conflict is too high to justify fighting back.

They're essentially playing chicken, and expecting their enemies to blink every single time. This tactic is unsustainable, and basically lays the groundwork for those who see crashing into their opponent, and not avoiding them at the last moment, as the ultimate goal of the contest to seize power.

 

[Bacle]

Thing is, once we cross that line, we have no idea what's going to happen. Civil conflict on that scale is like a runaway train; you can't just pump the breaks once the destination is reached. Your best hope is that it runs out of fuel and rolls to a stop before it hits something it can't just plough through. Sadly, the regressive left is not only aware of this, but they're banking on everyone else believing that the potential cost of such a conflict is too high to justify fighting back.

They're essentially playing chicken, and expecting their enemies to blink every single time. This tactic is unsustainable, and basically lays the groundwork for those who see crashing into their opponent, and not avoiding them at the last moment, as the ultimate goal of the contest to seize power.

This is why I feel like a Rubicon may have been crossed before anyone realized it, and now civil conflict may be unavoidable.

There is a reason I've said we may have to go to a 2nd American Republic, ala France, just to salvage something resembling the America we know from the ashes of the Far-Left deciding Trump winning means it all needs to burn.

However, there are also people on the far-right who want to purge 'degenerates', and 'degenerate ideas/thoughts' in an WH40k Imperium of Man-type manner, where 'degenerate' anything is treated as a mental contagion to be purged with force. These people are part of why the Far-Left has any legitimacy in their attacks on the GOP, because the Right has been reluctant to deal with its own fringes.

 

[Terthna]

This is why I feel like a Rubicon may have been crossed before anyone realized it, and now civil conflict may be unavoidable.

There is a reason I've said we may have to go to a 2nd American Republic, ala France, just to salvage something resembling the America we know from the ashes of the Far-Left deciding Trump winning means it all needs to burn.

However, there are also people on the far-right who want to purge 'degenerates', and 'degenerate ideas/thoughts' in an WH40k Imperium of Man-type manner, where 'degenerate' anything is treated as a mental contagion to be purged with force. These people are part of why the Far-Left has any legitimacy in their attacks on the GOP, because the Right has been reluctant to deal with its own fringes.

Mostly because those fringes are too few and far between to matter. They exist, but it's not like the Right doesn't condemn them (unlike the regressive left with their extremists), and they're just not that relevant as of yet; though I think they very well could become relevant surprisingly quickly, if worst came to worst.

 

[Tzeentchean Perspective]

Sometimes I'm reminded that while I should read more articles from different perspectives, it tends to become a wasted effort. Usually while I'm trying to read an example of said articles.

My intent was to post the first article I stumbled upon in it's own thread because it almost felt like it had an interesting perspective, until I realized that I was just reading more agitprop by leftists, for leftists.
Observe:

To contrast what I've described, here's an article in American Greatness expressing similar sentiments to many of this guy's medium.com articles ("Welcome to the Third World, America") but with not nearly as much toxic attitude, forced humor, and verbal lashings. Trump is only mentioned once, the sources are from many different websites instead of the author's past work, and there's no hysterical calls to arms directed at the reader base. It could almost be found on many different news websites.

 

[Bacle]

Mostly because those fringes are too few and far between to matter. They exist, but it's not like the Right doesn't condemn them (unlike the regressive left with their extremists), and they're just not that relevant as of yet; though I think they very well could become relevant surprisingly quickly, if worst came to worst.

Those fringes however are loud enough and ardent enough to provide a lot of fodder to the Left, and have for a while. Bush's fucking up in Iraq also got the Right tarred as warmongers, which didn't help perceptions.

And with the Left controlling the media machine, they could highlight the Right's fringes a lot easier than the Right could highlight the Left's fringes.

 

[Aldarion]

However, there are also people on the far-right who want to purge 'degenerates', and 'degenerate ideas/thoughts' in an WH40k Imperium of Man-type manner, where 'degenerate' anything is treated as a mental contagion to be purged with force. These people are part of why the Far-Left has any legitimacy in their attacks on the GOP, because the Right has been reluctant to deal with its own fringes.

I am not quite certain this is true. I mean, the fact that Left is willing - and able - to use extreme strategies and approach where "'degenerate' anything is treated as a mental contagion to be purged with force" is a large part of the reason why Left is winning. Basically, the whole "human rights" BS has led to the Left successfuly causing the Right to accept self-imposed restrictions which Left constantly flouts. And when one side of a total war accepts restrictions, it is quite obvious that the other side will automatically gain massive advantage (and yes, Left does see this as a total war).

Of course, this depends on how you define "far Left" and "far Right". Left has successfully spread "far Right" to cover far more ground than "far Left"; but even at equivalence, fact remains that Left is far more willing to utilize its extreme fringe and far less willing to deal with it, than the Right is.

Those fringes however are loud enough and ardent enough to provide a lot of fodder to the Left, and have for a while. Bush's fucking up in Iraq also got the Right tarred as warmongers, which didn't help perceptions.

And with the Left controlling the media machine, they could highlight the Right's fringes a lot easier than the Right could highlight the Left's fringes.

See above. Also, this is another example of Left controlling the discourse. Bush IMHO was not right-wing. According to my definiton, Left = Globalism, Right = Nationalism, which would leave Bush solidly in the center: he had some nationalist policies, but his actions actually helped globalists. But again, Left has been successfully controlling the discourse for quite a while, so much so that not only Hitler was declared right-wing (when in reality Nazis were centrist more than anything - example), but today it is quite acceptable to have Communist symbol placed on top of a skyscraper (imagine the howling if somebody had decided to put up swastika instead), to have statues of Lenin and even Stalin. I do not think there are any statues of Hitler around.

 

[Terthna]

Those fringes however are loud enough and ardent enough to provide a lot of fodder to the Left, and have for a while. Bush's fucking up in Iraq also got the Right tarred as warmongers, which didn't help perceptions.

And with the Left controlling the media machine, they could highlight the Right's fringes a lot easier than the Right could highlight the Left's fringes.

Point, but speaking from my experience with Gamergate, where exhaustive effort was spent singling out and condemning extreme elements, that's going to happen regardless. And there's little incentive to police one's own camp to such a meticulous degree, when you know it won't matter in the slightest. Even if the right could somehow completely purge themselves of all extremist elements, all the regressive left needs to do is hand a homeless man five dollars to go on a racist rant for a couple of minutes on camera, and they'll have their icon of right wing bigotry.

 

[Deleted member 88]

“Far right” today basically means

“doesn’t think transgender kids are okay”
“National pride is fine”
“And uh maybe we shouldn’t promote child sex”.

There’s the dissident right-which covers everything from the “Alt light” to self declared National Socialists. The actual far right, which does exist(and has some worthwhile things to say to be fair), and then there’s breeds of mainstream conservatism. Right Libertarianism, and so on.

The far left is...interchangeable from “official” liberalism. The NYT and other such outfits publish virulent far left stuff.

I guess...maybe orthodox marxists? Not Idpol? But then Vogue magazine did an issue on how cool Marx was, and even most race centered Anti White BLM people today, freely admit they owe Marx a great debt.

Point is, the far left and mainstream liberalism have basically become an amorphous hegemonic blob. They only disagree on the particulars, not the fundamentals.

Wherein mainstream conservatives don’t think the Jews are the root of all our problems, White Ethnostates are desirable, or eugenics is cool.

The NYT staff, and the craziest author on the Root have a lot in common with “Trained Marxists”.

So...what gives? Sooner or later even mainstream milquetoast conservatism will be “far right”.

But whatever. These categories end up getting rather tiresome anyway.

 

[Duke Nukem]

I know this is old but it this just goes to show How "tolerant" the left really is.

 

[Rocinante]

I know this is old but it this just goes to show How "tolerant" the left really is.

We all knew the left were racist as fuck. It shows as soon as someone doesn't follow their narrative.

 

[Cherico]

We all knew the left were racist as fuck. It shows as soon as someone doesn't follow their narrative.

To be fair is any one surprised that the political party that fought a war to maintain slavery and founded the KKK, created jim crow, went down to the mat for segregation has some racists in it?

 

[Rocinante]

To be fair is any one surprised that the political party that fought a war to maintain slavery and founded the KKK, created jim crow, went down to the mat for segregation has some racists in it?

bUT tHeY SwITcHed pArtiEs!

Did I do that meme right?

 

[Tzeentchean Perspective]

I was aware of all those things back in 2016 when I voted for the first time, fuck you Jack. What a boomer thing to say.

 

[DarthOne]

I was aware of all those things back in 2016 when I voted for the first time, fuck you Jack. What a boomer thing to say.

...who the fuck is this guy again?

 

[Duke Nukem]

Imagine calling the Proud Boys a white supremacist group when the leader is hispanic



Unsurprisingly there is White people calling him a uncle tom in the comments.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

“Far right” today basically means
“doesn’t think transgender kids are okay”
“National pride is fine”
“And uh maybe we shouldn’t promote child sex”.
There’s the dissident right-which covers everything from the “Alt light” to self declared National Socialists. The actual far right, which does exist(and has some worthwhile things to say to be fair), and then there’s breeds of mainstream conservatism. Right Libertarianism, and so on.
The far left is...interchangeable from “official” liberalism. The NYT and other such outfits publish virulent far left stuff.
I guess...maybe orthodox marxists? Not Idpol? But then Vogue magazine did an issue on how cool Marx was, and even most race centered Anti White BLM people today, freely admit they owe Marx a great debt.
Point is, the far left and mainstream liberalism have basically become an amorphous hegemonic blob. They only disagree on the particulars, not the fundamentals.
Wherein mainstream conservatives don’t think the Jews are the root of all our problems, White Ethnostates are desirable, or eugenics is cool.
The NYT staff, and the craziest author on the Root have a lot in common with “Trained Marxists”.
So...what gives? Sooner or later even mainstream milquetoast conservatism will be “far right”.
But whatever. These categories end up getting rather tiresome anyway.

Alt Right and National Socialism are both Left Wing political positions. I dont give a fuck what they want to call themselves. They want business owned by the state, they want disarmed populaces, they want a nanny government, they are left and no amount of "purging" the lunatics and serfs used by other leftists as expendable cannon fodder will make them not left.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Alt Right and National Socialism are both Left Wing political positions. I dont give a fuck what they want to call themselves. They want business owned by the state, they want disarmed populaces, they want a nanny government, they are left and no amount of "purging" the lunatics and serfs used by other leftists as expendable cannon fodder will make them not left.

They Blame everyone for their problems like other leftist's too

 

[Husky_Khan]

Google Maps' Nazi problem | Boing Boing

Google Maps’ reviewing system has provided a platform for Nazi sympathizers and antisemitic harassment for years. It’s a quiet example of the trillion-dollar tech giant’s disinter…

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Next on NaziWatch... Looks like Nazis have taken over Google Maps.

Back to Mapquest printouts, TomTom and AAA paper maps everybody.

 

[DarthOne]

Google Maps' Nazi problem | Boing Boing

Google Maps’ reviewing system has provided a platform for Nazi sympathizers and antisemitic harassment for years. It’s a quiet example of the trillion-dollar tech giant’s disinter…

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Next on NaziWatch... Looks like Nazis have taken over Google Maps.

Back to Mapquest printouts, TomTom and AAA paper maps everybody.

HEIL GOOGLE!

 

[Duke Nukem]

More stuff Jim Crow Joe has said in the past