Leftist Child Grooming

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Daily Mail said:
A transgender underwear designer has been accused of child abuse for selling pants that seek to ‘flatten’ the genitals of boys as young as four.

Doctors warned that the underwear, which is made to ‘flatten the side profile of the pelvic area’, could cause infertility.
A leading peer claimed the sale of the product amounted to a criminal offence.

The garments are sold by Carmen Liu, an eponymous company established by a transgender former ballet dancer that describes itself as ‘the UK’s first brand to design flattening and tucking underwear’.

 

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This goes beyond "leftists". This shit is clearly coming from the Elites. The people pushing this are involved with NGOs and supranational institutions. The predatory, psychopathic Overclass want to fuck with people's kids at a young age so they don't develop into healthy adults. It's population control/demoralization shit.

 

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This has followed the left's playbook perfectly.

"It's not happening
No really It's not happening
We told you conspiracy theorists It's not happening
Okay it's is happening, and it's good"

then why is everything collapsing? Why is there an angry mob, police man why are you walking away! I insulted you and fired your friend over petty shit? I pay your salary you will stay here. Stop smiling come back here and do your job I am going to talk to your manager.

OH god their here look I oh fuck.....Arrgh.
 

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Look at the complete "this is good actually bigot" responses from groomers in the replies


Yes, because parents won't know anything is going if they find a bunch of blank periods in your browser history, that's not suspicious at all.


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Tying into the whole "groomer" thing, I think the element that really sets people off about this sort of thing is just how hard the "talk to us, because you can't talk to your parents" bit is pushed. Yes, for some kids that's probably the case, and given that the modern LBGT movement's leaders are older and undoubtedly had a much worse time of it, it's understandable that they'd want to stop other kids from going through what they went through. But the constant drumbeat about how kids can't trust their parents and how the message is always "talk to us" and not "here's how to talk to your parents" makes it come across more as if cutting the ties between kids and parents is the bigger goal in place of actually helping the kids.

It come across a lot more as a cult indoctrination program then some kind of therapy or a tool to help kids, because the first thing you always here about cults is how they try to isolate their members from social structures and support system outside the cult.
 
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The top one I'm mostly fine with. That's a high school where a club is putting up a poster display.

And the Trevor project is about suicide prevention and crisis support (for example, sudden homelessness, which still hits LGBT kids when parents kick them out or they runaway out of fear). Given the very high rates of LGBT youth suicides, yeah, on the balance this is okay.

There totally is fucked shit on grooming (i.e. when the gingerbread thing is shown to elementary schools, etc), but this ain't it.
 

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...this is getting beyond 'LGBTQ+etc' shit and into stuff verging on promoting child pornography or assisting in the delinquency of a minor regarding accessing pornographic materials.

But because it's LGBT grade school teachers, they feel they have an out with using it for 'curriculum' purposes.
 

ShadowsOfParadox

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Now, as to child grooming, there is one exception to the child grooming bill I'll actually listen too, and it's a good point. What happens when the woke parent brings there 'trans' kid to school, and the kids ask the teacher "What's up with George? Why's he wearing a dress?" That would, in a normal world, be a fine time for the teacher to quickly, dispassionately, explain what's up with George then move on. But in Florida, the teacher can't say anything,
No. What is banned is class instruction, that is to say, you can't have "Gender and You" on the curriculum, if it's "Parents Show Up Day" and Little Jenny has two Dads, the teacher can say "some kids have two dads and that's fine" and can even explain a bit about why. Now, your actual example is rendered rather moot by the fact that Florida's issued new guidelines basically saying "If they are under 18 the evidence is the risk of harm from trans treatments is unacceptably higher than the potential benefits, so don't". If it happens anyway, the Teacher is entirely in their rights to punish harassment as per normal and say things like "it's fine to be more comfortable wearing something else".
 

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No. What is banned is class instruction, that is to say, you can't have "Gender and You" on the curriculum, if it's "Parents Show Up Day" and Little Jenny has two Dads, the teacher can say "some kids have two dads and that's fine" and can even explain a bit about why. Now, your actual example is rendered rather moot by the fact that Florida's issued new guidelines basically saying "If they are under 18 the evidence is the risk of harm from trans treatments is unacceptably higher than the potential benefits, so don't". If it happens anyway, the Teacher is entirely in their rights to punish harassment as per normal and say things like "it's fine to be more comfortable wearing something else".
Class instruction wasn't defined. That's one of the actually relevant issues with the law: it's vague. It's quite possible the two dad thing to a young enough kid might cross the technical legal line. Of course, a decent DA isn't going to sue over that, but some DA's want a political case no matter the facts. The problem is that the law is vague, not the law itself.
 

ShadowsOfParadox

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Class instruction wasn't defined. That's one of the actually relevant issues with the law: it's vague.
It's actually not vague, a number of those "vague terms" are "set to be defined later and otherwise don't apply". Basically, for all the hubbub about the law, there's very little in it that is actually currently enforceable. Most of it is waiting for other laws to define things like "according to state policy".

EDIT: Also, "Class Instruction" is defined elsewhere in the code, it's actually pretty specific and has been used in Florida law about classrooms for a while IIRC.
 

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