Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum

They don't just rub shoulders. CANVAS, Soros' Open Societies, NED, Freedom House, et cetera, train armies of activists. Who then go around and, essentially, complete military/intelligence objectives.
It is the same as countless highly advertised training sessions in corporate sector.
Some are useful, many not, but generally none deliver miracles and single handedly make companies into successes - some, particularly DEI ones, if anything deliver negative value.
The corporate and government bureaucracies alike *love* excessive meetings, trainings and conferences. But do not make the same mistake and think those make miracles.
In the case of Libya, they stirred enough shit for NATO to justify invoking the R2P and bombing Libya flat.
Libya was overdue for being bombed flat for Gaddafi's well known terror shit anyway.
R2P was a shitlib invention, Libya could well be bombed without it.
Think about that logically for a minute. Security forces in Libya shot a couple hundred protesters with live ammunition, and we used that as justification to level the whole country, destroy all their infrastructure, and leave millions of people homeless and destitute.
Don't dramatize an intervention against Libya's armed forces into WW2 grade strategic bombing campaign, you can do it to impressionable teenager, but for someone like me, that makes you look untrustworthy that you try something like that.
Israel fucking bombs Gaza flat and kills 34,000 people, mostly civilians, and not only is the R2P not invoked, we basically stand by and do nothing.
Good. The above overdramatization argument applies even more so. Read up how Hamas wages war (proudly at that) and you will understand that if Israel was not being extremely nice, there would be an extra zero in that number.
Clearly, there is a double standard, here. Apparently, the R2P, like Schrödinger's cat, is in a state of superposition. It exists only when we need an excuse to bomb more Arabs.
I don't care about shitlib excuses or if they are hypocritical or not. That we need shitlib excuses at all to follow national interest is a travesty, we should not justify use of power to shitlibs and leftists, we should be mocking them, but if it takes some bullshit to grease the wheels that should be moving anyway, oh well. But that doesn't change the fact that some Arabs sometimes need to be bombed for a good reason, regardless of the excuse used.
If you want to preach pacifism or isolationism to me, don't even bother.






Leftists with delusions of grandeur and and lolbertarians who don't know that they have no idea about foreign policy it is. It is quite telling that the movement famous for "what is Aleppo" guy also seems fine with simping for governments self described as "Arab Socialists". How does defending third world socialists from first world shitlibs own the left?
It doesn't, so i won't do it.
Here's a good hint: Anyone who talks about "genocide in Gaza" is some sort of anti-western shill and either has zero idea about modern warfare and middle eastern politics, or pretends not to for shilling sake.
 
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Our foreign policy machine is run by bloodthirsty psychopaths who start wars that are not in our national interest, which the American public has absolutely no stake in, which sap American treasure, drive up the national debt, and flood our shores with waves of hungry, destitute, angry refugees from the failed states our wars create. We have bridges falling down and roads full of potholes. Our infrastructure grows more decrepit by the day, and yet, our leaders always seem to be able to dig up tens of billions of dollars to spend on killing people halfway across the globe that I've never met and personally harbor no ill will toward, and on arming people I'd rather not see armed. What's "anti-western" are these cocksuckers in Congress sending tens of billions of dollars to Ukraine while homeless vets are sleeping on park benches next to fentanyl addicts. What's "anti-western" is Rishi Sunak telling chronically ill people to give up their benefits while immigrants get handouts. When we say this aloud, we're denigrated as "populist rabble-rousers" or "Putin apologists". It's fucking absurd.

Why should I pay taxes when it goes toward so many things I vehemently disagree with, and so few things I actually want for myself and others?

We don't have a democracy. We have a permanent "security state" and our democratically elected representatives merely rubber-stamp the policies that unelected bureaucrats and spooks create. That's where our foreign policy comes from.

 
Our foreign policy machine is run by bloodthirsty psychopaths who start wars that are not in our national interest, which the American public has absolutely no stake in, which sap American treasure, drive up the national debt, and flood our shores with waves of hungry, destitute, angry refugees from the failed states our wars create.
And that is a clearly leftist narrative of US foreign policy since the Cold War. Until the 60's, the mysterious "refugee connection" did not apply either despite plenty of wars western countries being involved into then. But then the reds started getting their teeth in, and here we are now.
Failed states have absolutely, positively zero need for American or other western intervention to be craptastically failed, trust me, and the same applies for existence of waves of destitute and angry refugees.
We have bridges falling down and roads full of potholes. Our infrastructure grows more decrepit by the day, and yet, our leaders always seem to be able to dig up tens of billions of dollars to spend on killing people halfway across the globe that I've never met and personally harbor no ill will toward, and on arming people I'd rather not see armed. What's "anti-western" are these cocksuckers in Congress sending tens of billions of dollars to Ukraine while homeless vets are sleeping on park benches next to fentanyl addicts. What's "anti-western" is Rishi Sunak telling chronically ill people to give up their benefits while immigrants get handouts.
Fentanyl crisis? Great, so you are for bombing China instead?


Sure, that would indirectly help Ukraine too, but we both know the western leaders don't have the guts, so proxy warfare it is for now.

And spare me the tactical fiscal conservatism, we both know better.
Why should I pay taxes when it goes toward so many things I vehemently disagree with, and so few things I actually want for myself and others?
I and many other people vehemently disagree with some things you agree with it seems...
Besides such shitposts, you seem to be greatly misinformed about the state of hot conflicts in the world and the complicated webs of alliances tactical and otherwise involved, and also naively taking up the narratives of idealistic left (crazy zealots with little power) to help them fight the dirty pragmatist center-left (less crazy corruptocrats with a lot of power), while i stand aside and say fuck all the left.
 
Our foreign policy machine is run by bloodthirsty psychopaths who start wars that are not in our national interest, which the American public has absolutely no stake in, which sap American treasure, drive up the national debt, and flood our shores with waves of hungry, destitute, angry refugees from the failed states our wars create. We have bridges falling down and roads full of potholes. Our infrastructure grows more decrepit by the day, and yet, our leaders always seem to be able to dig up tens of billions of dollars to spend on killing people halfway across the globe that I've never met and personally harbor no ill will toward, and on arming people I'd rather not see armed. What's "anti-western" are these cocksuckers in Congress sending tens of billions of dollars to Ukraine while homeless vets are sleeping on park benches next to fentanyl addicts. What's "anti-western" is Rishi Sunak telling chronically ill people to give up their benefits while immigrants get handouts. When we say this aloud, we're denigrated as "populist rabble-rousers" or "Putin apologists". It's fucking absurd.

Why should I pay taxes when it goes toward so many things I vehemently disagree with, and so few things I actually want for myself and others?

We don't have a democracy. We have a permanent "security state" and our democratically elected representatives merely rubber-stamp the policies that unelected bureaucrats and spooks create. That's where our foreign policy comes from.


I didn't know you supported trans movement, or the climate crisis, or electric cars...
Because that is where your money is going and or going to go to if it isn't to Ukraine.
 
Oh, so you think me an iconoclast, then? Well, I take up the mantle gladly.

And that is a clearly leftist narrative of US foreign policy since the Cold War. Until the 60's, the mysterious "refugee connection" did not apply either despite plenty of wars western countries being involved into then. But then the reds started getting their teeth in, and here we are now.
Failed states have absolutely, positively zero need for American or other western intervention to be craptastically failed, trust me, and the same applies for existence of waves of destitute and angry refugees.
There has been no justification for the use of military force in basically all of the armed conflicts NATO has been involved in in the past thirty years. Not a single one.



Yugoslavia? Completely unjustified. Actually made things worse. Not to mention, our PMCs doing contractor work for the State Department were involved in human trafficking in Bosnia.



Afghanistan? Bin Laden wasn't even hiding there. He was hiding out in Pakistan, our supposed ally, for years. We just abandoned it to the Taliban along with boatloads of arms and vehicles we left behind for them.



Iraq? Had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, had no WMDs, had no reason to be invaded, period.




The United States has never defined workable grand strategic objectives, made effective efforts to create a stable post-conflict Iraq, or shown the Iraq people its presence actually serves their interests. At the same time, the Department of Defense has reported that it spent over $765 billion on the Iraq conflict and the fight against ISIS as of March 31, 2019 – and this is only a fraction of the direct cost. There is no clear stream of reporting on State or USAID spending, but it seems to have reached another $100 billion.

In the so-called War on Terror, hundreds of thousands of innocent people died for absolutely nothing. That is a fact.

Fentanyl crisis? Great, so you are for bombing China instead?
The only reason why Fentanyl is in our country is because the FBI and CIA allow it to be.

Think about it. CBP can seize and destroy minute quantities of stromectol and plaquenil that people ordered to self-treat COVID-19, but they somehow can't find tens of tons of Chinese fent slipping across the border from Mexico every year?


One of the seized Ivermectin packages falsely claimed to contain decorative beads in an apparent attempt to get past U.S. authorities. But the subterfuge failed when CBP officials more closely examined the shipment, X-rayed it, and notified the Food and Drug Administration's Office of Criminal Investigation of the seizure.

Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. They know where all the fent is. They just pretend to seize a small fraction of it.

Sure, that would indirectly help Ukraine too, but we both know the western leaders don't have the guts, so proxy warfare it is for now.
Our leaders spent years and years opening "free trade" with China. Our businesses took advantage of Chinese sweatshops, paying fifty cents an hour to teen girls to work their fingers to the bone on an assembly line for sixteen hours a day, doing jobs that Americans should be doing for $20+ an hour plus medical and dental, making more plastic junk to ship over here on container ships burning nasty bunker fuel, all so we could rack up our credit cards and our rentier overlords could skim off the top of every transaction.

Why would they ever want to wage war with China? They just spent decades transferring all our wealth to China. After they're done demolishing America, our elites will simply pivot to China, where a ready-made totalitarian shithole full of obedient workers entrapped by mass surveillance and social credit scores will be ready to obey their every whim.

After years of this shit, the Davos freaks tell us we need to eat only a tidbit of meat every month and re-wear the same shirt for a year to protect the environment. After they spent decades benefiting from rampant consumerism and sweatshops, these same rich kleptocrat crooks are now funding Extinction Rebellion to sit down in the roadway and block ambulances.

The establishment will never go to war with China. China is the technocrats' pet project. Xi Jinping literally pinned a medal to Klaus Schwab's chest, the same Klaus Schwab who quite literally introduced Deng Xiaoping to our way of doing business and paved the way for China to become the world's factory, and you think our "Young Global Leaders" are gonna go to war with China? Never going to happen.

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And spare me the tactical fiscal conservatism, we both know better.
We overspend. On horrible, horrible things that make all our lives measurably worse. It's just a fact.

Besides such shitposts, you seem to be greatly misinformed about the state of hot conflicts in the world and the complicated webs of alliances tactical and otherwise involved, and also naively taking up the narratives of idealistic left (crazy zealots with little power) to help them fight the dirty pragmatist center-left (less crazy corruptocrats with a lot of power), while i stand aside and say fuck all the left.
The so-called dirty pragmatist center-left are not in the least bit honest about the reasons why they go to war. At all. They simplify things for the masses. They come up with these completely fake justifications for war for PR purposes, to mollify the public. Then they act surprised and dismayed when, years later, far-left and far-right populists dig all of their skeletons out of the closet and try to hold them accountable for their warmongering.

I didn't know you supported trans movement, or the climate crisis, or electric cars...
Because that is where your money is going and or going to go to if it isn't to Ukraine.
Why are those the only options? Why can't we spend money on making our cities look like this:

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Instead of this:

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With the $8 trillion robbed from the American taxpayer to pay for the stupid wars of the past few decades, we literally could have turned every city in America into something from a goddamn Art Deco matte painting and built a high-speed rail network and fiber-optic internet connecting all of them, instead of lining the pockets of Lockheed, Raytheon, BAE, and General Dynamics.

There's a grimy mitt filching money out of your pocket to build a dystopian hell-world for us and our descendants, and we all just sit here jabbering about it like we don't even care. That's friggin' shameful.
 
I didn't know you supported trans movement, or the climate crisis, or electric cars...
Because that is where your money is going and or going to go to if it isn't to Ukraine.
I'm sorry but that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

So any money we don't give to Ukraine goes to that stuff? I guess we should give all our money away!

I can't believe you even considered this a valid point...
 
Oh, so you think me an iconoclast, then? Well, I take up the mantle gladly.
I don't think that's what this word means.
There has been no justification for the use of military force in basically all of the armed conflicts NATO has been involved in in the past thirty years. Not a single one.
I do not care what leftists think of western nation's use of force, though if they scream about it then it's probably against a good target.


Yugoslavia? Completely unjustified. Actually made things worse. Not to mention, our PMCs doing contractor work for the State Department were involved in human trafficking in Bosnia.

Pointless whataboutism.


Afghanistan? Bin Laden wasn't even hiding there. He was hiding out in Pakistan, our supposed ally, for years. We just abandoned it to the Taliban along with boatloads of arms and vehicles we left behind for them.

*After* he got smoked out of Afghanistan by the invasion, Tora Bora, heard of it?


Iraq? Had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, had no WMDs, had no reason to be invaded, period.






In the so-called War on Terror, hundreds of thousands of innocent people died for absolutely nothing. That is a fact.

In what war since the beginning of mankind wasn't it the case?
The only reason why Fentanyl is in our country is because the FBI and CIA allow it to be.
If FBI and CIA are all powerful, why don't they have absolute power and don't silence you?
Think about it. CBP can seize and destroy minute quantities of stromectol and plaquenil that people ordered to self-treat COVID-19, but they somehow can't find tens of tons of Chinese fent slipping across the border from Mexico every year?
People ordered them through easily controlled public channels.



Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. They know where all the fent is. They just pretend to seize a small fraction of it.
There is no "they".
Hivemind would be an upgrade over what they are.
The stuff that is supposed to get through has to get through the right place and the right time, and it takes certain payments and connections to arrange those.
Our leaders spent years and years opening "free trade" with China. Our businesses took advantage of Chinese sweatshops, paying fifty cents an hour to teen girls to work their fingers to the bone on an assembly line for sixteen hours a day, doing jobs that Americans should be doing for $20+ an hour plus medical and dental, making more plastic junk to ship over here on container ships burning nasty bunker fuel, all so we could rack up our credit cards and our rentier overlords could skim off the top of every transaction.
Unfortunately many Americans prefer to pay Chinese labor costs in price of this plastic junk instead of American labor costs.
Why would they ever want to wage war with China? They just spent decades transferring all our wealth to China. After they're done demolishing America, our elites will simply pivot to China, where a ready-made totalitarian shithole full of obedient workers entrapped by mass surveillance and social credit scores will be ready to obey their every whim.
Yet some do, read the link.
After years of this shit, the Davos freaks tell us we need to eat only a tidbit of meat every month and re-wear the same shirt for a year to protect the environment. After they spent decades benefiting from rampant consumerism and sweatshops, these same rich kleptocrat crooks are now funding Extinction Rebellion to sit down in the roadway and block ambulances.

The establishment will never go to war with China. China is the technocrats' pet project. Xi Jinping literally pinned a medal to Klaus Schwab's chest, the same Klaus Schwab who quite literally introduced Deng Xiaoping to our way of doing business and paved the way for China to become the world's factory, and you think our "Young Global Leaders" are gonna go to war with China? Never going to happen.
China is Xi's pet project, if technocrats think it's theirs, they will be in for a killer surprise once they move there. There are no property rights in places like China, Russia, North Korea, and law is what the head honcho needs it to be at the moment, so no amount of lawyers will help either.
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We overspend. On horrible, horrible things that make all our lives measurably worse. It's just a fact.


The so-called dirty pragmatist center-left are not in the least bit honest about the reasons why they go to war. At all. They simplify things for the masses. They come up with these completely fake justifications for war for PR purposes, to mollify the public. Then they act surprised and dismayed when, years later, far-left and far-right populists dig all of their skeletons out of the closet and try to hold them accountable for their warmongering.
Never said i'm a fan of them. But there are even worse people out there.
Why are those the only options? Why can't we spend money on making our cities look like this:

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Instead of this:

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Because even green retards don't have as much political pull as to take their wildest fantasies of how cities should look and turn them into reality, you know they have their vision of how cities should look, and this is truly "we have green utopia at home" version of that.
In the more conservative side, if anything, when it comes to transforming society, there are questions whether the population being too urbanite doesn't fuck up culture and demographics too much by the inherent nature of urbanite life.
Look up what proportion of US population lived in cities in 1950, and how much does now.

Those aren't "our" cities, nor "your" cities, those are leftist's cities, looking at who the people living there vote for. It would be better to turn the money in for gold and fire the gold into space than to give it to them to make their status projects look nicer and bribe their chosen pet electorates more generously. At least as things are, the leftist's centers of power look like shitholes, it's a bit awkward for them.
 
Those aren't "our" cities, nor "your" cities, those are leftist's cities, looking at who the people living there vote for. It would be better to turn the money in for gold and fire the gold into space than to give it to them to make their status projects look nicer and bribe their chosen pet electorates more generously. At least as things are, the leftist's centers of power look like shitholes, it's a bit awkward for them.

Do they event want to make nice things?
 
I don't think that's what this word means.
i·con·o·clast
/īˈkänəˌklast/

noun

1. a person who attacks cherished beliefs or institutions.

I do not care what leftists think of western nation's use of force, though if they scream about it then it's probably against a good target.
Western nations' use of force is generally in service of a tiny handful of elites and against our own national interests. They spend American lives and American treasure like water, all to line their own pockets, while driving up inflation, eroding the middle class, and pulling up the ladder to upward mobility.

I'm a tradie. I have more in common with an Iraqi taxi driver than I do with any of these snooty Ivy League people running things and deciding who our armies should annihilate next.

Pointless whataboutism.
The US DOS continued to give DynCorp contracts after that, and they continued to exploit children in Afghanistan, too.




*After* he got smoked out of Afghanistan by the invasion, Tora Bora, heard of it?
They weren't even 100% sure if he was actually there in the first place.

In what war since the beginning of mankind wasn't it the case?
If that is the case, then perhaps it should not be waged so flippantly?



People elected Barack Obama on the hope that he'd close Gitmo and end the Bush-era wars. Not only did he not close Gitmo, he started more wars and droned tons more people. And for what? What did it accomplish? American credibility on the world stage was ruined. Everyone hates us. Everyone thinks we're meddling, bloodthirsty busybodies. It practically bankrupted us. Did it make us safer? No. On the contrary. Violent non-state actors and maniacal warlords, invigorated by the conflict and flush with money and recruits, used the countries we collapsed to build drug-running and gun-running empires. In fact, our government basically armed them.


As much as 90 percent of ISIS's arms and ammunition were found to have originated in Russia, China and Eastern European states. The jihadis were able to obtain much of this arsenal as a result of former President Barack Obama's support for rebels in Syria, U.K.-based Conflict Armament Research reported after analyzing 40,000 items recovered by its investigators along ISIS front lines between July 2014 and November 2017. By purchasing "large numbers" of European arms and ammunition and then diverting them to nonstate actors in Syria without notifying the sellers, the U.S. reportedly "violated the terms of sale and export agreed between weapon exporters...and recipients."

Related: U.S. made secret deal with ISIS to let thousands of fighters flee Raqqa to battle Assad in Syria, former ally says

"The United States and Saudi Arabia supplied most of this materiel without authorization, apparently to Syrian opposition forces. This diverted materiel, recovered from IS forces, comprises exclusively Warsaw Pact–caliber weapons and ammunition, purchased by the United States and Saudi Arabia from European Union (EU) member states in Eastern Europe," the report found, using an alternative acronym for ISIS.

What was the point? What did our boys go over there and get their balls blown off for? On whose behalf and for whose benefit did they do it?

If FBI and CIA are all powerful, why don't they have absolute power and don't silence you?
Because they know better.

There is no "they".
Hivemind would be an upgrade over what they are.
The stuff that is supposed to get through has to get through the right place and the right time, and it takes certain payments and connections to arrange those.
Yes. They pay a toll to our intelligence services.

Unfortunately many Americans prefer to pay Chinese labor costs in price of this plastic junk instead of American labor costs.
Cart before the horse. We could afford to buy American if our companies actually paid us.



China is Xi's pet project, if technocrats think it's theirs, they will be in for a killer surprise once they move there. There are no property rights in places like China, Russia, North Korea, and law is what the head honcho needs it to be at the moment, so no amount of lawyers will help either.
The WEF have quite literally come out and said that we're going to have a "multipolar world", the implication being that the US is going to relinquish its superpower status and just become one of many satellites of Chinese influence.





The conflict with China is just kayfabe. It's not real. It's a pretend conflict. Its sole purpose is to keep the plebs frightened and under the establishment's thumb.

Never said i'm a fan of them. But there are even worse people out there.
I am sick and tired of the managerial center-left. I find them deeply repulsive and totalitarian. When Thierry Breton mumbles something about the EU taking the lead in policing speech on the internet, I want to slap him so hard his feather duster wig falls off.

Because even green retards don't have as much political pull as to take their wildest fantasies of how cities should look and turn them into reality, you know they have their vision of how cities should look, and this is truly "we have green utopia at home" version of that.
In the more conservative side, if anything, when it comes to transforming society, there are questions whether the population being too urbanite doesn't fuck up culture and demographics too much by the inherent nature of urbanite life.
Look up what proportion of US population lived in cities in 1950, and how much does now.
Our cities in the fifties were practically paradises compared to the graffiti and crime-ridden hellholes we have now:



The modern American city is designed to be soulless, architecturally bland, incoherent, and depressing. Look at the old Penn Station in New York:

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Wow. Nice neoclassical columns and arches and shit.

Now, look at the new one:

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Let's all take an escalator ride into the giant, blue, herniated anus in the sky.

Our cities are so disgusting, people have actually started claiming that buildings made out of plaster staff for World's Fairs were remnants of a prior, superior civilization that was demolished to make way for ours.


It's all bunk, of course, but think about it. Imagine how depressing a society would have to be, for people to become so despondent that they actually hallucinate a utopia that never existed?

Those aren't "our" cities, nor "your" cities, those are leftist's cities, looking at who the people living there vote for. It would be better to turn the money in for gold and fire the gold into space than to give it to them to make their status projects look nicer and bribe their chosen pet electorates more generously. At least as things are, the leftist's centers of power look like shitholes, it's a bit awkward for them.
The modern American city is little more than a conduit for brutal psychological warfare against the American populace.
 
i·con·o·clast
/īˈkänəˌklast/

noun

1. a person who attacks cherished beliefs or institutions.
Where did you get the idea that those you attack are widely cherished?
They are more like a corpulent dead horse that everyone kicks and complains about the smell of but no one has idea how to move out of the way.
Western nations' use of force is generally in service of a tiny handful of elites and against our own national interests. They spend American lives and American treasure like water, all to line their own pockets, while driving up inflation, eroding the middle class, and pulling up the ladder to upward mobility.
Again, your overdramatization badly tips off the fact that you have no friggin idea what you are talking about.
"Spending American lives like water"? Have you compared the loss rates of GWOT USA and Russia or Syria right now? THAT is spending lives like water. America is insanely conservative with lives of their soldiers.
I'm a tradie. I have more in common with an Iraqi taxi driver than I do with any of these snooty Ivy League people running things and deciding who our armies should annihilate next.
No, you don't, and if you think you do, don't be surprised if you get thrown in one bag with the people who shout about uniting the proletariate of the world.
The US DOS continued to give DynCorp contracts after that, and they continued to exploit children in Afghanistan, too.



So fucking what? Yeah, nation building was stupid because it didn't work, that doesn't make killing of jihadis of the world stupid, that makes the "liberal tolerant" way of waging war of them stupid - as you see with the connection in hiring local contractors in the name of shitlib idea of making things better for Afghans - disregarding the fact a lot of them are savages.
They weren't even 100% sure if he was actually there in the first place.
"They"? No, you, i see how much you like trusting leftist sources like guardianistas.
If that is the case, then perhaps it should not be waged so flippantly?
Or perhaps that's just the historical norm. Again, don't even bother trying to sell pacifist sentiments to me, it only raises my bullshit alarms.


People elected Barack Obama on the hope that he'd close Gitmo and end the Bush-era wars. Not only did he not close Gitmo, he started more wars and droned tons more people. And for what? What did it accomplish? American credibility on the world stage was ruined. Everyone hates us. Everyone thinks we're meddling, bloodthirsty busybodies. It practically bankrupted us. Did it make us safer? No. On the contrary. Violent non-state actors and maniacal warlords, invigorated by the conflict and flush with money and recruits, used the countries we collapsed to build drug-running and gun-running empires. In fact, our government basically armed them.

Then the people were stupid in both electing him and the reasons they elected him for. Obama is a perfect example of worst of both worlds - a leftist and a managerialist corruptocrat all in one. He tried to wage wars, but waged them in very unoptimal, naive, and easily scammed by islamist shitters way.



What was the point? What did our boys go over there and get their balls blown off for? On whose behalf and for whose benefit did they do it?
Take this discount Hanoi Hannah commentary to people who know less. Note that the whole SCW started many years after bulk of US fighting in Iraq.
Because they know better.
Then they aren't powerful at all.
Yes. They pay a toll to our intelligence services.
You wish. They pay a toll to corrupt politicians and officers, not to the services.
Cart before the horse. We could afford to buy American if our companies actually paid us.




Random bullshitting about le evil rich people for clueless teenage socialists.
Why doesn't it work in the more socialdemocratic countries in Europe in any way resembling what these people promise, including the countries they put up as their examples? Buying from China and the like is as, if not more popular there than in USA.
The WEF have quite literally come out and said that we're going to have a "multipolar world", the implication being that the US is going to relinquish its superpower status and just become one of many satellites of Chinese influence.
Which ironically is an argument shouted from the rooftops by people who want NATO to back down on Ukraine, both in Russia and USA, and as something desirable by them of course.
Ditto for all other western interference in places Russia and China want to grab.
A multipolar world is a world of constant war (and not meme forever war leftists scream about because some jihadi shitsters in bumfuck nowhere are getting bombed, but actual constant high level warfare that will compare passably to 40k and Battletech) , and timidity and weakness on western side will bring it about.
Hence, i oppose the world WEF wants, i want total global western domination, with dictators of Russia and China worrying whether they are going to wake up every time they go to sleep.

Why the WEF wants that? Because in a world of shaky balance of many powers, a bunch of well connected people with some meaningful influence can pick the winners by merely putting their thumb on the scale, as kingmakers, giving them more power than they have by themselves.
In the dreaded by leftist "unipolar world", the western powers can just decide to ignore them if they wish so one day, even if they decide to retaliate by putting their thumb on the other's scale, it won't change anything.



The conflict with China is just kayfabe. It's not real. It's a pretend conflict. Its sole purpose is to keep the plebs frightened and under the establishment's thumb.

Oh it is very real for the CCP. It is not real to the elites - fighting it would be too difficult and costly for both their capabilities and dirty alliances. So they eternally kick the can down the road, and call getting a decent price for the next kick a victory.
I am sick and tired of the managerial center-left. I find them deeply repulsive and totalitarian. When Thierry Breton mumbles something about the EU taking the lead in policing speech on the internet, I want to slap him so hard his feather duster wig falls off.
So am i. They should worry about policing the seas and China's cyberwarfare instead. But hey, that's actually hard, useless fucks they be, easier to police spicy memes on the internet.
Our cities in the fifties were practically paradises compared to the graffiti and crime-ridden hellholes we have now:


It's the people being different, and the place reflects that change.
The modern American city is designed to be soulless, architecturally bland, incoherent, and depressing. Look at the old Penn Station in New York:

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Wow. Nice neoclassical columns and arches and shit.

Now, look at the new one:

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Let's all ride an escalator into the giant blue anus in the sky.

Our cities are so disgusting, people have actually started claiming that buildings made out of plaster staff for World's Fairs were remnants of a prior, superior civilization that was demolished to make way for ours.
Invite even more third world people, they will reach a whole another level of disgusting, with more slum vibe.
Material culture reflects the culture of people who build and live in it, and this theory fits well with what we know of the recent cultural transformation of western societies and city dwellers in particular.

It's all bunk, of course, but think about it. Imagine how depressing a society would have to be, for people to become so despondent that they actually hallucinate a utopia that never existed?


The modern American city is little more than a conduit for brutal psychological warfare against the American populace.
It's the other way around. It looks this way because the psychological war made them tolerant, even welcoming of it in the most successful cases of brainwashing, see Bezmenov, demoralization. Or the recent "package cuck" news story for a demonstration that such people exist, and how they think. The modern shitty city is a place made for "those people", not for us, and "those people", however insane it looks to us, are fine with it.
We could call them the Soviet Man 2.0.
How exactly was he better? Is it just because he wasn't backed by Russia?
That's a good start, he is also more nationalist than pretty much any sitting western leader right now.
I guess so; fair enough, I suppose, if that's your only metric.
Well in that part of the world that's the realistic metric for alternatives. Perhaps in time they will get even better ones, perhaps not, but certainly not if Russia gets to have any say about it (which is what it wages the whole war for) - Russian leaders and population alike would take it as a personal humiliation if Ukrainian "little brothers" were ever allowed to have visibly better governance than their corruptocracy.
 
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Basically Ukrainendidnt want to be Belarus
and I didn't want to be their pocket book but here we are anyways. a few hundred thousand dead a few hundred billion wasted and all we got to show for it is "we have degraded the Russian military machine". meanwhile gas is up. electricity costs are up. wages are stagnant at best. food is up. rent is up. Criminal aliens are coming across our borders. infrastructure is fucked. our economic reports are quietly adjusted down due to "mistakes" months after they put out the best possible numbers to make Biden look good. people are not happy with prioritizing a foreign pissing match that they don't care about over very real issues at home.
 
and I didn't want to be their pocket book but here we are anyways. a few hundred thousand dead a few hundred billion wasted and all we got to show for it is "we have degraded the Russian military machine". meanwhile gas is up. electricity costs are up. wages are stagnant at best. food is up. rent is up. Criminal aliens are coming across our borders. infrastructure is fucked. our economic reports are quietly adjusted down due to "mistakes" months after they put out the best possible numbers to make Biden look good. people are not happy with prioritizing a foreign pissing match that they don't care about over very real issues at home.
What prioritizing?
This is a media circus for making artificial controversy out of idiots and fringe lunatics butthurt over something that is a fraction of a percent of the budget, with less partisan divide over it than vast majority of things these days, the fact that this is something on first pages and screens means that's about the last thing self-aggrandizing experts in democrat tricks they should be paying attention to, what they should be paying attention to may be in the remaining over 99% percent of the budget, another victory for the mainstream media manipulators.
 
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