Don't mind him. He likes engaging in tangential near non-sequiters to flex on.
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Don't mind him. He likes engaging in tangential near non-sequiters to flex on.
bintananth
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Don't mind him. He likes engaging in tangential near non-sequiters to flex on.
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One of my sisters is married to a guy who might be a descendant of that mission.
Harlock
I should have expected that really
Today I learned this was a real thing
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All fun and games until you trash a Frenchman's baking
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All fun and games until you trash a Frenchman's baking
gral
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Pastry is serious shit.Today I learned this was a real thing
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All fun and games until you trash a Frenchman's baking
You forgot to mention that the reason it took both of them was because SoDak had that massive electrical cascade which effectively put it out of action, that cause Kiri to focus on pounding SoDak so much Wash was able to gank Kiri with surprise salvos.
The Kongo's were good ships, but please don't pretend they were so tough they needed two US BBs to sink them in close combat.
bintananth
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I also forgot to mention that SoDak and Wash would not have been there if the US hadn't basically ran out of heavy cruisers and had to toss two fast battleships into Ironbottom Sound.
bintananth
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The worst led USN fleet of WWII was the one that got ambushed in the middle of the night near Savo Island.
"The Battle of the Five Sitting Ducks".
A deceased cousin used the photo of USS Quincy while she was sinking and on fire taken from a Japanese cruiser while she was being illuminated by, I think, at least three Japanese cruisers while the smoke from another burning US cruiser was visible in the background as an avatar.
This picture:
bintananth
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At Midway the Japanese were actually outnumbered 4:3 when it came to the aircraft count.
Harlock
I should have expected that really
Well the USN had the advantage there and won that one
The Japanese had more carriers but they were understrength with exhausted crews and worn out aircraft that hadn't been reinforced or replaced. They had good strike doctrine but awful defensive doctrine which contributed greatly to their loss. On paper the carrier aircraft numbers were almost the same but the US had the Midway airfields too.
Not to mention the decisive advantage of sigint
I mean, true.Well the USN had the advantage there and won that one
The Japanese had more carriers but they were understrength with exhausted crews and worn out aircraft that hadn't been reinforced or replaced. They had good strike doctrine but awful defensive doctrine which contributed greatly to their loss. On paper the carrier aircraft numbers were almost the same but the US had the Midway airfields too.
Not to mention the decisive advantage of sigint
DId the japs ever win a battle against the US in the pacific when numbers were even or in their favor?
Making crescents is an undertaking!
Harlock
I should have expected that really
they did good at some of the Guadalcanal battles when they could leverage their training and decent ship designs. Battles around Java too.
Ultimately though the USN was able to train new crews to better standards and could rely on more aggressive commanders as the war went on. If the Japanese had been more aggressive they would have done much better.
See Taffy 3, the great victory of testicular fortitude over tonnage
The US just relied on pure balls of steel
Don't forget the IJN's retarded damage control doctrine, which isolated repair parties to specific parts of the ship, and didn't train them in overall dam-con practices the same way the USN did.
The Japanese were often their own worst enemy, and we would have lost a lot more ships, planes and people to Japan if they had been just a bit more on-the-ball in their dam-con training and battle orders.
Harlock
I should have expected that really
certainly helped
Japan probably had the edge at first but as the USN tried new things and allowed its better officers to rise into command positions it all fell together. Not perfect as nothing is, but late WWII USN was probably the peak. Something to be justly proud of.
Yeah that really didn't help, poor old Taiho.
In some aspects the IJN was incredibly advanced, but in others terribly backward. Take their fighter control as another example, Japanese doctrine insisted on Radio silence among aircraft in most situations so not to give away their position. Fair enough on paper but in practice it meant that once in the air all fighters were on their own.
This meant they picked their own targets and engaged with no oversight, no central command to deploy them, call them back, redirect them to more critical threats. We know how that worked at Midway.
contrast with the Allied side who considered that if a bunch of aircraft are heading your way the enemy probably already knows where you are. Allied pilots communicated, coordinated their attacks etc with the RN going a step further and using the same radar based direction practiced in the Battle of Britain. It made RN and later USN CAPs vastly more effective and really the IJN could have done the same if they hadn't been so rigid
I thought it was Shinano that had the idiotic DC crew that left all the hatches open and resulted in her loss just outside Toyko Bay.
Or did Taiho also go down due to crap dam-con practices?