What If? Interesting ASB Elections

[WolfBear]

Yeah, but then Wilson would have to “flip” his rhetoric, if not necessarily his Segregationist policies.

Might also do a one-eighty on immigration, too, just to throw scraps to the loose and open-borders people.

I think that having to do a 180 on immigration might cause Wilson to have another stroke that will literally kill him once again! Then we'll have Zombie Wilson as US President!

Then he'll have to face off against Calvin Coolidge, Mummy Slayer :

 

[Zyobot]

I think that having to do a 180 on immigration might cause Wilson to have another stroke that will literally kill him once again! Then we'll have Zombie Wilson as US President!

Then he'll have to face off against Calvin Coolidge, Mummy Slayer :

“Holy 1984-style GOP blowout, Batman!”

Perhaps even an outright clean sweep for Silent Cal, in fact. If there’s anything that can turn DC red, even just this once, ‘Zombie Wilson Vs. Mummy-Hunter Coolidge’ must be it.

 

[WolfBear]

“Holy 1984-style GOP blowout, Batman!”

For Calvin Coolidge, Mummy Slayer? If so, then Yeah, most likely. He probably wins all 50 US states whether in 1916, 1924, or right now since no one would actually want to vote for a zombie as US President!

 

[Zyobot]

For Calvin Coolidge, Mummy Slayer? If so, then Yeah, most likely. He probably wins all 50 US states whether in 1916, 1924, or right now since no one would actually want to vote for a zombie as US President!

At that point, I actually wonder if Coolidge would win by downright Washingtonian levels! Besides Wilson loosing harder than the last century’s trifecta of greatest electoral losers—Alf Landon, George McGovern, and Walter Mondale—it’d be extra humiliation for Coolidge to win with maybe 90 percent of the popular vote, rather than “merely” somewhere over 65 percent.

(Sadly, it’s probably too much to expect a 100 percent sweep, given that a handful of weirdos and truly loony partisans still vote. Oh, well.)

 

[WolfBear]

At that point, I actually wonder if Coolidge would win by downright Washingtonian levels! Besides Wilson loosing harder than the last century’s trifecta of greatest electoral losers—Alf Landon, George McGovern, and Walter Mondale—it’d be extra humiliation for Coolidge to win with maybe 90 percent of the popular vote, rather than “merely” somewhere over 65 percent.

(Sadly, it’s probably too much to expect a 100 percent sweep, given that a handful of weirdos and truly loony partisans still vote. Oh, well.)

The n00bz are going be like "Yassss kween, we want a zombie President!"

 

[Zyobot]

The n00bz are going be like "Yassss kween, we want a zombie President!"

Joined by America’s ten or twenty “Vote blue, even if the who ends the world!” fanatics, too, of course! 😆

 

[WolfBear]

Joined by America’s ten or twenty “Vote blue, even if the who ends the world!” fanatics, too, of course. 😆

And then there are going to be the zombie fetishists!

 

[VictortheMonarch]

James K. Polk (1844) vs. Woodrow Wilson (1912/1916)

Polk would beat that ass any day. Tennessee always puts out good presidents so long as they don't have a big nose!

 

[Agent23]

What about LBJ (1964) vs. Donald Trump (2016)?

Delicious spectacle, that is what.
LBJ was a total piece of trash with a skeleton closet the size of a large warehouse, and in Trump he'd have an enemy willing to play dirty and go down to his level.
Policy-wise, trump is a hell of a lot more populist than LBJ ever was, and the guy was more than happy to do 180 turns whenever the political winds blew in his favor.

Trump can go against him on his massive media empire, conveniently owned by his wife, on him torpedoing a lot of civil rights legislation, on his connections to a firm called Brown and Root, but which we now know as Halliburton.

 

[WolfBear]

Delicious spectacle, that is what.
LBJ was a total piece of trash with a skeleton closet the size of a large warehouse, and in Trump he'd have an enemy willing to play dirty and go down to his level.
Policy-wise, trump is a hell of a lot more populist than LBJ ever was, and the guy was more than happy to do 180 turns whenever the political winds blew in his favor.

Trump can go against him on his massive media empire, conveniently owned by his wife, on him torpedoing a lot of civil rights legislation, on his connections to a firm called Brown and Root, but which we now know as Halliburton.

Trump can also discuss about the lack of success of the Great Society program in permanently uplifting non-Asian US minorities.

Anyway:

'Theodore Roosevelt (1904/1912) vs. Franklin Roosevelt (1932/1936/1940/1944)'

 

[Zyobot]

Trump can also discuss about the lack of success of the Great Society program in permanently uplifting non-Asian US minorities.

Anyway:

'Theodore Roosevelt (1904/1912) vs. Franklin Roosevelt (1932/1936/1940/1944)'

Can't predict how the race will go off the top of my head, but I feel like it depends on precisely when Roosevelt the Younger is from? For example, his 1944 self is in poor health for sure, and may not be in as great a shape for the job as his 1936 self (who still has four years of executive experience, as is).

(Same can be said of Roosevelt the Elder, of course, though I know considerably less about his health situation by 1912.)

 

[WolfBear]

(Same can be said of Roosevelt the Elder, of course, though I know considerably less about his health situation by 1912.)

He survived a shooting shortly before the election by this guy:

Attempted assassination of Theodore Roosevelt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Zyobot]

He survived a shooting shortly before the election by this guy:

Attempted assassination of Theodore Roosevelt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Knew about the incident, though not exactly when it happened.

But thanks for reminding me. Teddy was a physical specimen to impress even the hardiest Spartan, for sure, and this failed attempt may be the best testament to that.

 

[WolfBear]

Knew about the incident, though not exactly when it happened.

But thanks for reminding me. Teddy was a physical specimen to impress even the hardiest Spartan, for sure, and this failed attempt may be the best testament to that.

Yeah, right after being shot, he said "I don't know if you have realized that I have just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose!"

 

[Zyobot]

Yeah, right after being shot, he said "I don't know if you have realized that I have just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose!"

Not that 300 is accurate, but I honestly wonder if Big Teddy is one of few non-Spartans that King Leonidas would have healthy respect for?

Anyhow, I assume we're dealing with a modern electorate again?

 

[WolfBear]

Not that 300 is accurate, but I honestly wonder if Big Teddy is one of few non-Spartans that King Leonidas would have healthy respect for?

Anyhow, I assume we're dealing with a modern electorate again?

Yeah, we're dealing with a modern electorate, with you being able to pick the year.

Anyway:

'Benjamin Harrison (1888/1892) vs. Donald Trump (2016/2020)'

 

[Zyobot]

Actually, how about 'George McGovern (1972) Vs. Robert Taft (1952)'?

The electorate is still modern and both candidates are given two years to prepare, just so they're not completely out of their element on the campaign trail.

 

[WolfBear]

Actually, how about 'George McGovern (1972) Vs. Robert Taft (1952)'?

The electorate is still modern and they're given two years to prepare, just so they're not completely out of their element on the campaign trail.

Taft wins, especially if he doesn't openly repudiate NATO. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Taft will win in an extremely massive landslide just like Nixon did in real life.

 

[Zyobot]

Taft wins, especially if he doesn't openly repudiate NATO. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Taft will win in an extremely massive landslide just like Nixon did in real life.

I suppose McGovern running a terrible campaign and having poor judgement are significant factors here?

For one, I recollect a case where he gave a televised speech way too early in the morning for voters to care, and he only learned that his running mate underwent electroshock therapy for his depression problems shortly after being nominated. (The fact he previously vowed to back Eagleton "1000 percent" before dropping him only showed how much of a no-win bind he was caught in, I'm guessing.)

How does the electoral map probably look, do you think? Given how polarized the country is now, I honestly feel like Taft would be lucky to win anywhere over forty states (much less all fifty). But, then again, maybe he could basically portray himself as "Trump, but more dignified and principled", even if he doesn't mention or talk about him much. (The Democrats and media will still haggle him on that, though, and he'd best have a response ready if he wants to win over a critical mass of both Independents and MAGA voters.)

 

[WolfBear]

I suppose McGovern running a terrible campaign and having poor judgement are significant factors here?

For one, I recollect a case where he gave a televised speech way too early in the morning for voters to care, and he only learned that his running mate underwent electroshock therapy for his depression problems shortly after being nominated. (The fact he previously vowed to back Eagleton "1000 percent" before dropping him only showed how much of a no-win bind he was caught in, I'm guessing.)

How does the electoral map probably look, do you think? Given how polarized the country is now, I honestly feel like Taft would be lucky to win anywhere over forty states (much less all fifty). But, then again, maybe he could basically portray himself as "Trump, but more dignified and principled", even if he doesn't mention or talk about him much. (The Democrats and media will still haggle him on that, though, and he'd best have a response ready if he wants to win over a critical mass of both Independents and MAGA voters.)

I made my prediction based on the 1952 or even 1972 electorate. Based on the current electorate, McGovern should perform much better, especially due to the much higher minority percentage among the US population nowadays. I would expect McGovern to get maybe 150-200 electoral votes with the present-day electorate?