Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

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Civilians and soldiers held hostage in Gaza, says Israel – as it happened

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Hamas surprise attack out of Gaza stuns Israel and leaves hundreds dead in fighting, retaliation

Hamas militants have fired thousands of rockets and sent dozens of fighters into Israeli towns near the Gaza Strip in an unprecedented surprise early morning attack during a major Jewish holiday.
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Over 5,000 Rockets Fired As 'Operation Al-Aqsa Flood' Begins: Hamas Armed Wing

More than 5,000 rockets were fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel on Saturday, Hamas' armed wing said, declaring it had started "Operation Al-Aqsa Flood".
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Hundreds dead as Arab-Israeli conflict erupts again

Backed by a barrage of rockets, dozens of Hamas militants broke out of the blockaded Gaza Strip and into nearby Israeli towns early on Saturday.
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Hamas apparently did their best shot at full scale surprise attack on Israel. Popcorn is out.
 
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Marduk said:
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Civilians and soldiers held hostage in Gaza, says Israel – as it happened

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Hamas surprise attack out of Gaza stuns Israel and leaves hundreds dead in fighting, retaliation

Hamas militants have fired thousands of rockets and sent dozens of fighters into Israeli towns near the Gaza Strip in an unprecedented surprise early morning attack during a major Jewish holiday.
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www.barrons.com

Over 5,000 Rockets Fired As 'Operation Al-Aqsa Flood' Begins: Hamas Armed Wing

More than 5,000 rockets were fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel on Saturday, Hamas' armed wing said, declaring it had started "Operation Al-Aqsa Flood".
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Hundreds dead as Arab-Israeli conflict erupts again

Backed by a barrage of rockets, dozens of Hamas militants broke out of the blockaded Gaza Strip and into nearby Israeli towns early on Saturday.
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Hamas apparently did their best shot at full scale surprise attack on Israel. Popcorn is out.
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Skallagrim

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Friendly Reminder - This is Overly Close to a Rule 1A Violation - Rules must be enforced or else they are not rules, even when we sympathize with the view of those (nearly) breaking them
Perhaps now, we can all face reality: it is years, if not decades, past time that these incorrigible Palestinians are driven into the sea. The best outcome here is the complete cleansing of the Gaza Strip, with all Palestinians removed from the area.

Furthermore, since the Palestinians explicitly claim that this is all done in defence of the al-Aqsa mosque, highly symbolic punitive actions are in order. By which I mean: the complete destruction of the mosque in question, to permanently remove any sign of the supposed islamic claims to that piece of land.
 
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Skallagrim said:
Perhaps now, we can all face reality: it is years, if not decades, past time that these incorrigible Palestinians are driven into the sea. The best outcome here is the complete cleansing of the Gaza Strip, with all Palestinians removed from the area.
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I have no problem with this.
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Furthermore, since the Palestinians explicitly claim that this is all done in defence of the al-Aqsa mosque, highly symbolic punitive actions are in order. By which I mean: the complete destruction of the mosque in question, to permanently remove any sign of the supposed islamic claims to that piece of land.
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And on their way out, they can each carry a piece of the al-Aqsa mosque so they can rebuild it somewhere else.
 
History Learner

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A little over two years ago I predicted this, and none of you wanted to listen at the time:
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The status quo is dead and, honestly, Hamas-as a lot of commentary in both Israel and the West is noting-did win a pretty convincing victory.

It costs Hamas a few hundred dollars to make one of their rockets, but a single Tamir costs several hundred thousand to the IDF. Although Hamas has not yet shown the capability to overwhelm the Iron Dome, it has shown it is making strides to do so; they have fired more rockets now then they did in 2014 in a shorter amount of time. Eventually, they will reach the capability that the IDF interception rate will begin to decline and Israeli casualties will start to mount. 2006 broke the willingness of the IDF to invade Lebanon, 2014 did the same for Gaza. Now it's a war where the Gazans can launch rockets all day and the IDF has to respond with air strikes, because it is politically untenable to send in the ground troops. Hezbollah and groups in the West Bank have taken notice of this, and tensions have risen to the point we've seen scattered, isolated violence on those axis. Within Israel itself, we've also seen widespread ethnic violence between the Arabs and Jews, on a scale not seen since at least the 1970s, if not 1948. Abbas has been severely weakened politically in the West Bank, and now Assad as well as Iran are making overtures for a joint Sunni-Shia Axis against Israel.

In short, it's a death of a thousand cuts. Yes, superior IDF firepower has been sufficient to engender casualty ratios favorable to the Israelis but that does nothing to alter the growing political and geo-strategic balance at play anymore than it has for the U.S. in Afghanistan.
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Given Hamas is now 14 km deep into Israel, has managed to storm multiple bases and destroyed an entire tank platoon of Merkavas (Including the newest IV variant, no less) and there are signs all around the borders of Israel that the Arabs are animated by this, would anyone care to admit I was exactly correct back in 2021?

Also, for those who argued with me about the Iron Dome, would you further care to explain the pictures of the burning electrical stations in Israel itself? I thought that 100% intercept rate was infallible lol?
 
History Learner

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Husky_Khan said:
Ongoing Twitter Thread of Documented Israeli Vehicle Losses in the Conflict.

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It's not even been 24 hours and the IDF has already almost lost an entire tank company against insurgents using old Soviet ATGMs and commercial drones. Let that sink in people. These aren't old tanks either, several Merkava IVs with trophy systems have also been destroyed/captured.
 
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Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert thinks eventually Netanyahu might go down after this.
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Thinks? Or hopes? The biggest problem(for the Israeli left and the diaspora, IMO) isn't that Netanyahu gets out, it's that he doesn't stay out.
 
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