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Terthna

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Problem is, there will still be fearmongers going on about how you can’t easily get this basic & cheap good on simple jobs

Therefore more government spending
Won't matter; because there won't be many jobs period by that point. It's ironic; we'll end up with a world very similar to what the socialists and communists are trying to sell us on simply due to inevitable advancements in technology. It's just that they won't be in charge of it.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
Won't matter; because there won't be many jobs period by that point. It's ironic; we'll end up with a world very similar to what the socialists and communists are trying to sell us on simply due to inevitable advancements in technology. It's just that they won't be in charge of it.

As has been hashed over multiple times on other threads, demand is infinite; there'll always be new types of jobs for people to fill out. We've had much larger and more drastic economic changes than what people are afraid of over the last few decades, there's not sufficient reason to think this one will be that different.

If you want to argue the issue again, take it back to one of the other threads it's more appropriate to.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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Today on the "C'mon, guys, Merkel is totally not Hitler Mk 2, trust the MSM!" section:
The Führerin and her regime are trying to establish a immunity-pass for people who were immunized to corona.



Gee, I wonder why the regime would want a pass that allows them to control the law-abiding citizens even further.
Naah, it will be fine.
 
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DarthOne

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Today on the "C'mon, guys, Merkel is totally not Hitler Mk 2, trust the MSM!" section:
The Führerin and her regime are trying to establish a immunity-pass for people who were immunized to corona.



Gee, I wonder why the regime would want a pass that allows them to control the law-abiding citizens even further.
Naah, it will be fine.
...god damnit, we're going to have to invade Germany again, aren't we?

I don't suppose we can resurrect Prussia while we're at it....
 

Urabrask Revealed

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Today in "I can't believe it's not facism!"


In several cities of Germany, peaceful protestors demand an end to the lockdown measures and a return to the old status quo.
Does the state respect their right to assemble and protest? Naah, they send in the riot police and beat them down.

The protestors of Michigan had the right of it when they marched armed with rifles.
 

DarthOne

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Germany criminalizes burning the EU-flag. Anyone who lights the EU flag in Germany will face a prison sentence or a fine in the future.

Defaming the EU flag and anthem will be punishable in Germany in the future. The Bundestag voted on Thursday for a bill by the Federal Council that introduces an additional passage into the criminal code. Until now, fines or imprisonment have only been threatened if the state symbols of the Federal Republic of Germany are disparaged. For the national emblems of other countries or the European Union, comparable protection was only available under certain conditions.

Violations of the new regulation can - in line with the existing prohibitions - be punished with a custodial sentence of up to three years or a fine. The regulation also includes destroying, damaging or defacing the EU flag and attempts to do so.

If other flags are burned, for example during demonstrations, the punitive condition that Germany maintains mutual relations with the other state and that the Federal Government must have authorized criminal prosecution does not apply.

AfD tried to prevent the new regulation

"The burning of flags in public has nothing to do with peaceful protest," said Federal Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht (SPD). It stirs up "hate, anger and aggression" and hurts the feelings of many people.

The SPD had spoken out in favor of protecting the Israeli flag after it was lit at a demonstration in Berlin in 2017. With the decision to expand, there is now "uniform criminal protection for foreign flags and the symbols of the European Union," said Lambrecht.

The AfD opposed the new penal code for the EU symbols. In an amendment that was rejected by a large majority, she spoke of "excessive interference with freedom of expression and art".

Unpopular opinion here, but why do we treat Germany as a free democracy?

Putin has played various political games to stay in power for the last 20 years. Yet Merkel does the same thing, and has been in power for 15 years (this isn’t even getting into the EU’s unelected bureaucrats that hold all the real power). Russia is evil for censoring gay propaganda, yet Germany has speech codes and now jails you if you burn a flag.

How come Russia is an adversary, yet Germany (and other similar European countries) are our allies?

From my perspective, Russia, China, and the EU are all authoritarian protectionist states, but we pretend that Europe isn’t for some reason.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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Germany criminalizes burning the EU-flag. Anyone who lights the EU flag in Germany will face a prison sentence or a fine in the future.



Unpopular opinion here, but why do we treat Germany as a free democracy?

Putin has played various political games to stay in power for the last 20 years. Yet Merkel does the same thing, and has been in power for 15 years (this isn’t even getting into the EU’s unelected bureaucrats that hold all the real power). Russia is evil for censoring gay propaganda, yet Germany has speech codes and now jails you if you burn a flag.

How come Russia is an adversary, yet Germany (and other similar European countries) are our allies?

From my perspective, Russia, China, and the EU are all authoritarian protectionist states, but we pretend that Europe isn’t for some reason.
I epecially love how that rule only applies to "foreign" flags, not the German one. And to answer your question, cultural inertia and rentless propaganda from the Left, that's why the european nations don't get called out for the shit they get up to,
 

Airedale260

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The people I really feel for are the Poles, they are the ones who will be screwed when history returns to normal.
More the fact that when it happens Eastern Europe is once again going to be in the sights of both Germany and Russia, again. Eastern Europe has the labor and markets Germany needs, and offers the natural barriers the Russians need.

Actually I was reading a book by George Friedman of Stratfor a couple years back on this. Basically, it makes sense for the U.S. to remain engaged with them (by and large they keep up their end of NATO commitments, and for the reasons you correctly point out, they have every reason to cooperate with us, just as we still need help). Germany won't be able to do shit outside of its borders. Russia is harder, but OTOH, if they make moves or even noises against their neighbors, we can easily remind them that just because we're busy with China doesn't mean we won't respond to their shit (personally I'd be in favor of 'accidentally' shooting down their bombers the next time they violate U.S. airspace but that's probably an escalation too far).

The rise of the AfD has been slow but steady. It truly is mind boggling for a party unfaltering in its patriotism to be a major political force in Germany of all places, but this is where we are. I take it as a good sign in all honesty; if it can happen there, it can happen anywhere. Hence why the Left is scared shitless of them.

The impression I get is that patriots exist in every country; it's just that Europe has tried to suppress them for the past 75 years out of an attempt to spark another war. Meanwhile forgetting that 1) human behavior is not nearly do easily changed and 2) that, as with every other time in their 2,000 years of history they've tried this, it just blows up in their faces with a massive body count.

...god damnit, we're going to have to invade Germany again, aren't we?

I don't suppose we can resurrect Prussia while we're at it....

Nah, not fair to the Poles, although we have to do something about Kaliningrad. Maybe give the city itself (after it's been renamed to Konigsberg) back to Germany and give the rest of the territory to Poland.
 

Lord Sovereign

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The impression I get is that patriots exist in every country; it's just that Europe has tried to suppress them for the past 75 years out of an attempt to spark another war. Meanwhile forgetting that 1) human behavior is not nearly do easily changed and 2) that, as with every other time in their 2,000 years of history they've tried this, it just blows up in their faces with a massive body count.

The guilt of the Great German Sperg Out has been transplanted across the entire continent, leading to all European history being lumped in with the madness of the Nazis. The well of European civilisation got poisoned by Nazism and we as a culture massively overreacted to it, leading to many of our modern woes. That and this fear of repeating the Second World War, a war that was truly unique and would be hard to replicate, has led us to conclude that Nationalism is bad and made it all too easy for the Left to get completely out of control and for Communism to get its claws in on our institutions.

So, once again, Thanks, Germany, what the actual fuck?
 

PsihoKekec

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(personally I'd be in favor of 'accidentally' shooting down their bombers the next time they violate U.S. airspace but that's probably an escalation too far).
Which they haven't done since 1990 and probably didn't do it before either. The incidents we keep hearing about is their aircraft entering reaction area, which is an arbitrary limit at which the USAF will send their aircraft to check it out. The reason why we even hear about it is because USAF needs something to for congress critters during budget battles and being bombing support for Army is not enough, with media being hungry for anything about Russia, so they report these nothingburgers.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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The guilt of the Great German Sperg Out has been transplanted across the entire continent, leading to all European history being lumped in with the madness of the Nazis. The well of European civilisation got poisoned by Nazism and we as a culture massively overreacted to it, leading to many of our modern woes. That and this fear of repeating the Second World War, a war that was truly unique and would be hard to replicate, has led us to conclude that Nationalism is bad and made it all too easy for the Left to get completely out of control and for Communism to get its claws in on our institutions.

So, once again, Thanks, Germany, what the actual fuck?
Hitler wouldn't have gotten into power to begin with if the commies hadn't insisted on trying to take over by force.
The nazis back then were the only party that made even the appearance of trying to stop the red scum from taking over.
The other parties just tried to appease the red scum like the Republicans used to with the demorats.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
Hitler wouldn't have gotten into power to begin with if the commies hadn't insisted on trying to take over by force.
The nazis back then were the only party that made even the appearance of trying to stop the red scum from taking over.
The other parties just tried to appease the red scum like the Republicans used to with the demorats.

I do understand the rise of the Nazis (even if the 25 point plan and the off the rails Antisemitism would've been where I noped out) but what came after...is a bit more confusing for me. Now, between you and me, I don't see how mass murdering slavs out in the arse end of nowhere helped fight "international finance."
 

Navarro

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The guilt of the Great German Sperg Out has been transplanted across the entire continent, leading to all European history being lumped in with the madness of the Nazis. The well of European civilisation got poisoned by Nazism and we as a culture massively overreacted to it, leading to many of our modern woes. That and this fear of repeating the Second World War, a war that was truly unique and would be hard to replicate, has led us to conclude that Nationalism is bad and made it all too easy for the Left to get completely out of control and for Communism to get its claws in on our institutions.

So, once again, Thanks, Germany, what the actual fuck?

WW1 was what began the major wave of cultural self-doubt.
 

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